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Every time I see a new stadium, ex. Was in ATL recently, that thing is sweet!!!

....New York ******* city

....TWO ******* teams share it

....and that's what you came up with???

holy sh*t. I remember when NYC meant something cooler

it's a dump

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On 9/18/2017 at 8:56 AM, johnnysd said:

Isn't it true though that the metropolitan area unions cause the inflated build costs? I remember reading that the current stadium would have been less than a billion on other areas

EDIT: I hate our stadium. Woody should never have gone there except maybe as a rental till he could build his own

 

This is the truth. 

However a WSS could have and should have been built.  It could have been affordable and the best in the world but many fans like tailgating and that would have been curtailed some. However that would have been offset by the fortune that they would have made in their PSLs.  

Anyway water under the bridge now...

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1 hour ago, BRONX DUDE said:

This is why they are Empty as S--T

False. It is empty because the team sucks... give the JETS the Pats record over the last 15 years and it is sold out X2

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You wankers. I can rarely even watch a game in my own living room let alone have the opportunity to go to the stadium whenever I want. My heart just bleeds for you.

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On 9/18/2017 at 9:10 AM, Stark said:

2025 - this is the first year that we can "opt out" of the stadium deal, correct? 

I wish that Woody would start figuring out a way to get us into our own stadium. Seriously, this is ridiculous. Spend the money Johnson.

I'll never sell !!!!!

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On 9/18/2017 at 9:10 AM, Stark said:

2025 - this is the first year that we can "opt out" of the stadium deal, correct? 

I wish that Woody would start figuring out a way to get us into our own stadium. Seriously, this is ridiculous. Spend the money Johnson.

Absurdity!  Why does NY need 2 football stadiums when they're only for 10-12 games a year (8 regular season, 2 preseason and at most 2 post-season).  

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On 9/19/2017 at 7:03 PM, ECURB said:

You spend 90% of your time watching this area...

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Please tell me why the color of the outside or the roof line matter...lol

Oh, I'm sorry. Didn't know all opinions had to be run by you first... Why have you responded to a post you find irrelevant multiple time? I wonder if acoustics were considered at all in the design. There you go now the sh*tty design talk is field relevant.

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15 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Absurdity!  Why does NY need 2 football stadiums when they're only for 10-12 games a year (8 regular season, 2 preseason and at most 2 post-season).  

Because one in Manhattan could be used for other venues. I could walk out of the stadium and party somewhere other than a parking lot, which is cool, but I don't mind variety either. 

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1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

Clearly much higher UD 

Image result for old giants stadium and new stadium pics during construction

 

Giants Stadium was a dump, but there wasn't a bad seat in the joint. Excellent sightlines. 

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The new stadium was constructed so poorly.  They built it for the suites.  The mezzanine and upper level views became much worse.  Part of that is building codes these days and part of it is more focus on luxury suites.

They also built it so that basically the only gates to use to get in are the Pepsi and Verizon gates.  As a result it's a pain to take the escalators up to each level. 

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On 9/19/2017 at 10:35 PM, Cornfed said:

I like MetLife stadium. Great views, good food and beer, no bathroom lines, nice big open space on a beautiful day.  I love it. Outside looks like an AC, yes, but isn't it the inside that counts?

Bingo.

I've seen them all, and they're all the same.  MetLife is no better or worse than any of the rest.  People just like to whine.

Concrete concourses, plastic seats, aluminum exteriors.  The color of a seat never won or lost a football game.  MetLife was poppin when we were AFC elites in 2010 and 2011.  No one complained about it at all.  But now that we're league doormats, shocker, the stadium sucks.  Bigger fish to fry people.

SAR I

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52 minutes ago, Lot K Tailgaters said:

The new stadium was constructed so poorly.  They built it for the suites.  The mezzanine and upper level views became much worse.  Part of that is building codes these days and part of it is more focus on luxury suites.

They also built it so that basically the only gates to use to get in are the Pepsi and Verizon gates.  As a result it's a pain to take the escalators up to each level. 

The stadium was not built for suites, the stadium was built for New York.  You can't have a 69,000 seat football stadium like Seattle does.  This isn't a tiny town.  Since it's construction, MetLife Stadium has the highest attendance in the AFC, the Jets are the biggest draw in the conference, even in terrible down years like this one.  It's a financial success and it accommodates Jets fans in a metropolitan area of 20 million people by having those extra 10,000 seats when needed.  Yes, those upper deck seats have worse views than in Giants Stadium.  You get what you pay for.

As for the gate structure, that's actually one of the stadium's biggest benefits as fans can't go from one quarter of the stadium to an adjacent quarter, it's like 4 separate stadiums in one.  At Giants Stadium, the concourses with easy access to all gates were a mess, you literally could go to the mezzanine or upper deck concourse and walk the entire circumference of the stadium.  Insanity at halftime with people going from one sideline around the endzones to the other sideline to see their friends, crashing into everyone as they jogged.  End of the game, people running like maniacs to the gate closest to where they parked, chaos with people running clockwise and counter clockwise.  All that back/forth is stopped now.  If you have seats in the Verizon quarter of the stadium, you enter the Verizon gate and that's where you stay.  You can go up and down, but you can't go across.  It makes the stadium far easier to load and unload, and it also reduces wait times at bathrooms and concession stands.

SAR I

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Excepting Lambeau, everything else is kind of window dressing once the game starts. It would be pretty cool if all the stadiums could treat their attendees like Arthur Blank treats his, but on the other hand if you're downing 10 beers at a football game, making everyone get up every 10 minutes, and kicking the back of my seat, I take a little pleasure in the fact that you just dropped $120 for those.

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18 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Absurdity!  Why does NY need 2 football stadiums when they're only for 10-12 games a year (8 regular season, 2 preseason and at most 2 post-season).  

Starry eyed dreamers make lousy businessmen.

The key to the success of the Jets and Giants franchises is a shared stadium for the very reason you mention-  it's not about the money made on the 10 days a year a team plays, it's about the money that's lost on the 355 days it sits there empty as the worlds largest chip 'n dip.  The Jets and Giants each get 100% of their profits on their gate and eat only 50% of the losses.  That money goes into non-cap areas like coaches, coordinators, training facilities, travel facilities, equipment, etc.

A Manhattan stadium would have been a disaster.  12,000 less seats, higher ticket prices, higher PSL's, weekend tourists gobbling up tickets on a lark, no parking, no tailgating, the NJ and LI fanbases forced to visit the place they work in and want to get away from all week.  Nightmare.

The Jets are where they belong.

SAR I

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4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Excepting Lambeau, everything else is kind of window dressing once the game starts. It would be pretty cool if all the stadiums could treat their attendees like Arthur Blank treats his, but on the other hand if you're downing 10 beers at a football game, making everyone get up every 10 minutes, and kicking the back of my seat, I take a little pleasure in the fact that you just dropped $120 for those.

I've been to Lambeau, and while it looks good on TV it isn't good in person.

Anyone in the first 5-8 rows can't see over the players and the sideline cameras, many of the seats are high school aluminum benches, and the concourses are as narrow as the old Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park if you've been there, just dark and cramped.  The bathrooms?  Guys line up to urinate over a giant caldron, you step up on a wood step, whip out your junk, and with no dividers between you get to see 30 strangers hairy penises streaming into half a giant pipe.  There is no parking, we had to pay a homeowner $30 to leave our car on his front lawn trapped behind about 10 other cars after the game.  We had to rent a seat back for $5 so that we had some back support on the aluminum bench during the game.

Said it before I'll say it again-  all these stadiums are the same.  Big seating bowl surrounded by concrete.  The outer facades you see on TV is nothing more than snake oil. 

SAR I

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On 9/19/2017 at 7:20 PM, HessStation said:

Every time I see a new stadium, ex. Was in ATL recently, that thing is sweet!!!

....New York ******* city

....TWO ******* teams share it

....and that's what you came up with???

holy sh*t. I remember when NYC meant something cooler

it's a dump

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So a bunch of triangles gets you all hard?

It's football, not ballet.  Facade design doesn't matter.  And MetLife looks like a skyscraper.  Have you looked at a modern building in Manhattan recently?  Lots of aluminum.  Lots of louvers.  If MetLife is symmetrical and cold, well, welcome to The Spirit Of Manhattan Architecture.  There's nothing about the stadium in Atlanta that says "Atlanta" or "Falcons".  Looks like a f-cking mess to me.  Never seen so many grown men cry so much about how 'pretty' the outside of a stadium is.  Trust me, they don't care about this crap in New England or Pittsburgh and MetLife blows those two dumps out of the water.

SAR I

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3 minutes ago, SAR I said:

I've been to Lambeau, and while it looks good on TV it isn't good in person.

Anyone in the first 5-8 rows can't see over the players and the sideline cameras, many of the seats are high school aluminum benches, and the concourses are as narrow as the old Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park if you've been there, just dark and cramped.  The bathrooms?  Guys line up to urinate over a giant caldron, you step up on a wood step, whip out your junk, and with no dividers between you get to see 30 strangers hairy penises streaming into half a giant pipe.  There is no parking, we had to pay a homeowner $30 to leave our car on his front lawn trapped behind about 10 other cars after the game.  We had to rent a seat back for $5 so that we had some back support on the aluminum bench during the game.

Said it before I'll say it again-  all these stadiums are the same.  Big seating bowl surrounded by concrete.  The outer facades you see on TV is nothing more than snake oil. 

SAR I

 

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On 9/19/2017 at 6:46 PM, ECURB said:

Why do people complain about the stadium so much?

It has awesome sight lines and a great atmosphere when there is a reason for one. (see thanksgving game pre-butt fumble)

The outside design was done to reduce wind... and it has. Honestly though who the hell cares what it looks like outside? Is this team that boring now that you care how cool the stadium looks? I don't care if the outside was shaped like a giant dog turd if the field is nice and the views are good.

Bunch of cry babies in here looking for something to bitch about.

Well said.

The people complaining the loudest don't attend games and are instead in the business of making excuses for being bad stay-home fans.

"I'd go to games if there were no PSL's!"
"I'd go to games if the stadium was in Manhattan!"
"I'd go to games if MetLife were more pretty on the outside!"
"I'd go to games if the stadium didn't cost so much to build!"
"I'd go to games if we didn't share a stadium with another team!"
"I'd go to games if...."

Enough.  You don't go to games.  Period.  None of this stadium excuse stuff matters.  We ain't buying it.  Be a man, own your decision, tell the real reason why you aren't a season ticket holder.  It has nothing to do with the stadium.  It has to do with the shell game you played with ticket brokers for 30 years attending games for free, making a ton of money, and putting your kids through college on the backs of loyal fans on the waiting list.  Jets used the PSL process to weed out these bad fans who were perfectly fine collecting $100 a game in scalper blood money but would never consider the PSL fee of $7 a game.  Now all they do is complain.  They finally got what they deserved.  Makes me very happy.

SAR I

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I have only 2 minor complaints regarding Metlife

1)  I only go 2-3 times a year. It would have been great to have a roof so pussies like me would go in late Nov Dec.

2) It is in NJ

Other than that I love it.

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On 9/17/2017 at 11:33 PM, Integrity28 said:

Yea, had the same thought.

******* Jets are the B-team in a shared stadium that isn't even in their home ******* state. You can't make this sh*t up.

Arthur Blank seems like a cool rich guy, though. The pricing of concessions to make it family friendly is novel.

More like Fatman friendly. If said fat man  has five kids then even better. Mr. Blank is a friend to families and fatmen everywhere.

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