Philc1 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 What if we are not the only team that goes 0-16? As many as three teams (Jets, Colts and 49ers) have a legit shot at 0-16. The Colts and Niners do play eachother this season so at least one of them will be 1-15. But that still leaves 2 potential 0-16 teams. So how would draft order be based if two 0-16 teams had the same record? Strength of schedule? Who determines that? I ask only because it would be our luck if this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I would imagine it would be strength of schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, ChuckkieB said: I would imagine it would be strength of schedule. Yep, then points scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOJOTOWNSELL Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 now were worried about multiple 0-16 teams?! Its truly Bizzaro world on Jetnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 From Wikipedia - so take it fwiw...... Rules for determining draft order The selection order is based on each team's win-loss record in the previous season and whether the team reached the playoffs. Teams that did not reach the playoffs the previous season are ranked in reverse order of their records (thus the team with the fewest wins is awarded the first selection). Ties between teams with identical records are determined by the following tiebreakers (in order):[57] Strength of schedule, which is the combined win-loss record for all 16 of the team's opponents in the previous season (ties count as a half win and half loss). The team with the lower strength of schedule (i.e. their opponents compiled fewer wins) is granted the earlier pick in round one. Division tiebreakers (if the teams are in the same division). Conference tiebreakers (if the teams are in the same conference). Coin flip(s), which occur(s) at the pre-draft NFL Combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, JOJOTOWNSELL said: now were worried about multiple 0-16 teams?! Its truly Bizzaro world on Jetnation. It's only week #2. Wait till these guys really get into the teeth of the season. You ain't seen nothing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lil Woody said: From Wikipedia - so take it fwiw...... Rules for determining draft order The selection order is based on each team's win-loss record in the previous season and whether the team reached the playoffs. Teams that did not reach the playoffs the previous season are ranked in reverse order of their records (thus the team with the fewest wins is awarded the first selection). Ties between teams with identical records are determined by the following tiebreakers (in order):[57] Strength of schedule, which is the combined win-loss record for all 16 of the team's opponents in the previous season (ties count as a half win and half loss). The team with the lower strength of schedule (i.e. their opponents compiled fewer wins) is granted the earlier pick in round one. Division tiebreakers (if the teams are in the same division). Conference tiebreakers (if the teams are in the same conference). Coin flip(s), which occur(s) at the pre-draft NFL Combine. Strength of schedule makes sense. #2 and #3 wouldn't apply since both teams would have never won a game. That would really suck if whether or not we got Darnold depended on a coin flip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Strength of schedule makes sense. #2 and #3 wouldn't apply since both teams would have never won a game. That would really suck if whether or not we got Darnold depended on a coin flip The Pats won the last Super Bowl on a coin flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, Philc1 said: What if we are not the only team that goes 0-16? As many as three teams (Jets, Colts and 49ers) have a legit shot at 0-16. The Colts and Niners do play eachother this season so at least one of them will be 1-15. But that still leaves 2 potential 0-16 teams. So how would draft order be based if two 0-16 teams had the same record? Strength of schedule? Who determines that? I ask only because it would be our luck if this happened. Did you really ask who determines the strength of schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Lil Woody said: Strength of schedule, which is the combined win-loss record for all 16 of the team's opponents in the previous season (ties count as a half win and half loss). The team with the lower strength of schedule (i.e. their opponents compiled fewer wins) is granted the earlier pick in round one. Being in a crappy division helps the Jets here, but we will need the Pats to lose a few more games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Strength of schedule makes sense. #2 and #3 wouldn't apply since both teams would have never won a game. That would really suck if whether or not we got Darnold depended on a coin flip Is it a sure thing that Darnold is going # 1 ? It seems like Rosen is having a better year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 We are not going 0-16. Jets will win at least 2 meaningless December games and knock themselves right out of draft positioning. It's what we do best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, Lil Woody said: From Wikipedia - so take it fwiw...... Rules for determining draft order The selection order is based on each team's win-loss record in the previous season and whether the team reached the playoffs. Teams that did not reach the playoffs the previous season are ranked in reverse order of their records (thus the team with the fewest wins is awarded the first selection). Ties between teams with identical records are determined by the following tiebreakers (in order):[57] Strength of schedule, which is the combined win-loss record for all 16 of the team's opponents in the previous season (ties count as a half win and half loss). The team with the lower strength of schedule (i.e. their opponents compiled fewer wins) is granted the earlier pick in round one. Division tiebreakers (if the teams are in the same division). Conference tiebreakers (if the teams are in the same conference). Coin flip(s), which occur(s) at the pre-draft NFL Combine. There will be no tiebreakers between 0-16 teams. I'm pretty sure they will both have a .000 record any way you divide up the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Did you really ask who determines the strength of schedule? I determine strength of schedule. I think they might use a calculator though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: We are not going 0-16. Jets will win at least 2 meaningless December games and knock themselves right out of draft positioning. It's what we do best. The Jets being the Jets not withstanding, it's hard to imagine them winning ANY games after the November 2nd game against the Bills. Their schedule is brutal after that. The key to our securing the 1st pick overall is going to be the Jags and Browns games in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Honestly, I don't think it matters whether we're one or two (assuming that both Rosen and Darnold enter the draft). All we need is one of the two to be available and I'll be a happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: The Jets being the Jets not withstanding, it's hard to imagine them winning ANY games after the November 2nd game against the Bills. Their schedule is brutal after that. The key to our securing the 1st pick overall is going to be the Jags and Browns games in a few weeks. Fournette and Cam Robinson are going to dismantle our defensive front 7 so I have 0.0 concern about us beating the Jags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: Honestly, I don't think it matters whether we're one or two (assuming that both Rosen and Darnold enter the draft). All we need is one of the two to be available and I'll be a happy camper. Darnold I think can be a really good NFL QB from Day 1.. He relies so much on natural instinct that you can't coach. Rosen will also be good in year 1, but I think needs 3-4 years to really become deadly, like Aaron Rodgers. He's more calculating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: Honestly, I don't think it matters whether we're one or two (assuming that both Rosen and Darnold enter the draft). All we need is one of the two to be available and I'll be a happy camper. Darnold is the only qb worth tanking for in this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, jetscrazey said: Darnold I think can be a really good NFL QB from Day 1.. He relies so much on natural instinct that you can't coach. Rosen will also be good in year 1, but I think needs 3-4 years to really become deadly, like Aaron Rodgers. He's more calculating. Agreed. Rosen is the guy I really want - he makes throws that few guys are capable of making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 By the way, that would be such a Jets thing to go 0-16 and yet still miss out on a top 2 pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: By the way, that would be such a Jets thing to go 0-16 and yet still miss out on a top 2 pick... No what's going to happen is we go 0-15 and then in week 17, having already clinched the division and a bye week, Belichick signs Brooks Bollinger and starts him at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Fournette and Cam Robinson are going to dismantle our defensive front 7 so I have 0.0 concern about us beating the Jags How did ol' Cam look against Tennessee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 23 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: We are not going 0-16. Jets will win at least 2 meaningless December games and knock themselves right out of draft positioning. It's what we do best. Yep, and if the Pats are already locked into their playoff seed going into week 17 and a win would screw the Jets, Belichick will gladly tank for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 49 minutes ago, Philc1 said: What if we are not the only team that goes 0-16? As many as three teams (Jets, Colts and 49ers) have a legit shot at 0-16. The Colts and Niners do play eachother this season so at least one of them will be 1-15. But that still leaves 2 potential 0-16 teams. So how would draft order be based if two 0-16 teams had the same record? Strength of schedule? Who determines that? I ask only because it would be our luck if this happened. Strength of schedule would determine the order. So whoever went 0-16 against the weaker opponents would pick first. If that somehow came out identical, it'd be down to a coin flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 40 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: We are not going 0-16. Jets will win at least 2 meaningless December games and knock themselves right out of draft positioning. It's what we do best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 0-16 team is extremely rare and you think there will be history made with 2 of them?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 58 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Yep, and if the Pats are already locked into their playoff seed going into week 17 and a win would screw the Jets, Belichick will gladly tank for them. You think Belichick would ever try to let the Jets beat him?? Week 17 is the clearest L we have. Our team will have given up, and Belichick will revel in running up the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: How did ol' Cam look against Tennessee? I dunno you tell me how 99% of Macc's draft picks are looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Bleedin Green said: Yep, and if the Pats are already locked into their playoff seed going into week 17 and a win would screw the Jets, Belichick will gladly tank for them. This is 100% happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Multiple 0-16 teams? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: This is 100% happening. I could see Rex Burkhead playing the wildcat the entire week 17 game while Brady and Garropolo are on the sideline joking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: We are not going 0-16. Jets will win at least 2 meaningless December games and knock themselves right out of draft positioning. It's what we do best. Ok I can live with Baker Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 26 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Ok I can live with Baker Mayfield My man. Me too. I think Mayfield has the stuff to excel in NY. Tough player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 First of all , two 0-16 teams has never happened in the history of the league. And we actually may win a game or 2. Still pretty confident we gat the top pickSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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