ZachEY Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Just now, jetrider said: You saying Bowles can't develop safeties too? Yes. Everything wrong with this team is because of Todd Bowles. It was all Groh's fault, then all Herm's fault, then all Mangini's fault, then all Ryan's fault, and now it's all Todd Bowles' fault. Which is why, each time we've fired a coach, things have gotten better, because it was all their fault. This also goes for offensive coordinators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 46 minutes ago, dbatesman said: actually he just turned 22 Ah. I must have missed the Jamal is turning 22 today thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: I'm sure if news reporters stuck a mic in front of your face daily when you were 22, everything would have been rational and eloquent. I'd quote Nietzsche, bietzsche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, gEYno said: I'd quote Nietzsche, bietzsche. Symbolic penis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Jets fans are dicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, gEYno said: Yes. Everything wrong with this team is because of Todd Bowles. It was all Groh's fault, then all Herm's fault, then all Mangini's fault, then all Ryan's fault, and now it's all Todd Bowles' fault. Which is why, each time we've fired a coach, things have gotten better, because it was all their fault. This also goes for offensive coordinators. Guess we need a GM that teaches football technique, designs game plans and playbooks in between phone calls, contracts, and office management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Just now, jetrider said: Guess we need a GM that teaches football technique, designs game plans and playbooks in between phone calls, contracts, and office management. It might be useful to figure out what an NFL HC actually does, before criticizing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Just now, gEYno said: It might be useful to figure out what an NFL HC actually does, before criticizing one. It's clearly you that has no clue about any of their jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, BigO said: Can we say the commish made a mistake and called out Adams instead of Watson. If it go's to NY for review I feel it very well may get overturned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Adams has already reinvented the mediocre Safety position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 42 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: So when you take a player at 6, if they are not the greatest at their position, then they're a failure? Because Ed Reed is probably one of the greatest, or the greatest to play safety. Or is just the safety position? When you take a non-premium position that early, yes, it's a bad pick unless the guy ends up a perennial Pro Bowler. It's also why we should have taken Watson or a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, BigO said: Can we say the commish made a mistake and called out Adams instead of Watson. Right,so at this time the fanbase would be bashing McCags for drafting Watson, bashing Bowles for not starting him and labeling Watson a bust because he couldn't beat out the bum McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Blame Macc for the high expectations. When you take a safety at 6, he'd better be f*ckin Ed Reed. Ed Reed wasn't Ed Reed right from the get go, he built his rep up playing on an all time great defense . Imagine if the Jets had a pass rush to help out the secondary like Ed reed had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Clouds Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said: Sorry if I came on to strong, mea culpa. I certainly meant no harm just waiting for the Sears repairman to come to repair my washing machine and a little antsy waiting all day. I wouldn’t sweat it CB. You’re just being passionate, like this year’s New York Jets team. Do let us know, however, if your Sears service technician says he’s going to revolutionize the repair business. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Right,so at this time the fanbase would be bashing McCags for drafting Watson, bashing Bowles for not starting him and labeling Watson a bust because he couldn't beat out the bum McCown. No. Watson would have have clearly shown he was ready to roll. Had they had the cajones to draft him in the first place, McCown would never have been signed. As far as Bowles is concerned, he'd have no choice but to start him. See, that was easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Pac said: PFF is nothing more than artificial statistics invented by former members of Lambda Lambda Lambda in an effort to appeal to the Dungeons and Dragons crowd. Their entire organization is a disgrace. Wait... Pac is against math? Sexual identity is so up in the air in the modern world! 9 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Ed Reed wasn't Ed Reed right from the get go, he built his rep up playing on an all time great defense . Imagine if the Jets had a pass rush to help out the secondary like Ed reed had. #wpnzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Adams has already reinvented the mediocre Safety position Haven't you heard he's reinventing the position. He won't be playing safety. He'll be playing Danger Will Robinson Danger position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, BigO said: No. Watson would have have clearly shown he was ready to roll. Had they had the cajones to draft him in the first place, McCown would never have been signed. As far as Bowles is concerned, he'd have no choice but to start him. See, that was easy. McCown signed a fully guaranteed $6M deal a month before the draft. That was easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 19 minutes ago, jetrider said: McCown signed a fully guaranteed $6M deal a month before the draft. That was easy. You know it is posters like you the spoil a perfectly good rant with facts that make this site unreadable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I expected to see a controversial statement when I opened this thread. This is really nothing significant. Let's not make Adams the target of our frustration, he's a positive for the team not a negative and this is from someone who didn't like the draft pick at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, gEYno said: As per PFF, Malik Hooker, Marcus Williams, Montae Nicholson, John Johnson, and even Marcus Maye are rookie safeties grading out higher than Adams, who's currently rated in the Below Average range, and the 55th best safety. For what it's worth, Marcus Maye is #42. Other interesting facts, of the 11 (there's a tie) safeties ranked top 10 by PFF for 2017 so far, only 3 were 1st rounders, 1 2nd rounder, and no 3rd rounders. Again, Adams will likely be fine, but "Good" is still up hill. Eh, let any of them cover Gronk for a game and see where they rank following. I don't rank player performances for a living but I think Adams had played extremely well prior to the NE game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Macc changed the draft by taking safeties in rd 1 and 2, so skaiss the limits!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: You can't be this obtuse or inane can you? You really believe that Adams hasn't made plays since he has been on the Jets? If you believe your own post, then either you haven't been watching any games or are Stevie Wonder... cause here is one "play" for you..... Come on Man, are better than this Post!!! Sick play. If only all of our players had that kind of hustle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 how dare he try to be positive. that POS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, jetrider said: McCown signed a fully guaranteed $6M deal a month before the draft. That was easy. No that was moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JetFaninMI Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: Careful there buddy. The last time a wannabe jock went after LLL, he got his sh*t pushed in during a vicious rap battle AND they took his girl. Yeah but that was a movie. In real life nerds get pummeled. On Adams I think his comments are what you would expect from a rookie. He wants to justify where he was picked, he wants to win games, and he wants to be the best. He has shown flashes but he is still a rookie. He is learning and it takes time. On a few plays Gronk did take him to school but Gronk also got the calls because of him being Gronk. Do I blame Adams for Sundays Loss? HELLO NO. If I were his coach I may advise him to shut his yap though and just play like I know he is capable of. Do it on the field Mr Adams and the accolades will come. Talk has never been anything but just that.....talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Pac said: PFF is nothing more than artificial statistics invented by former members of Lambda Lambda Lambda in an effort to appeal to the Dungeons and Dragons crowd. Their entire organization is a disgrace. Well, you've stumbled on an entirely new way of being wrong, so points for that I guess. I think there's a legit case to be made PFF's statistics being artificial and their organization being a disgrace, but not for reasons you would understand and certainly not for the reasons you're thinking of here. The D&D crack is the opposite of true. PFF's entire business model--the thumbs-up/thumbs-down method of "analyzing" plays and players, the 1-whatever ranking of every single player at every single position, the color-coded Homeland Security alert system they use to categorize everybody, the sleek website with tiered membership options with dumbass names like PFF EDGE and PFF ELITE, the partnerships with the league and networks--is very obviously predicated on appealing to diaper-wearing illiterates who don't want math gaying up their football. If you find PFF too highfalutin, I've got some bad news about the ways NFL front offices make decisions, and some even worse news about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: Yeah but that was a movie. In real life nerds get pummeled. In real life the people who get pummeled are the guys who peaked in high school that bitch about athletes on the internet while the nerds are out drilling Brazilian jiu jitsu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: In real life the people who get pummeled are the guys who peaked in high school that bitch about athletes on the internet while the nerds are out drilling Brazilian jiu jitsu. Yeah sometimes but this is often the reality: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, BigO said: No. Watson would have have clearly shown he was ready to roll. Had they had the cajones to draft him in the first place, McCown would never have been signed. As far as Bowles is concerned, he'd have no choice but to start him. See, that was easy. No way they would have started Watson from the get go. I'm convinced even if they draft a QB top 5 next year they'll also start the season on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: Wait... Pac is against math? Sexual identity is so up in the air in the modern world! #wpnzz Yes Ed Reed would have clearly dominated with a front four that can't produce a single sack. You guys are so sour on the Jets you can't even appreciate when we have a good player. I guess most of you would have preferred Loafer Revis at CB and superstar Pryor than "suffering" with the 2 safeties who can -OMG play good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 38 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: In real life the people who get pummeled are the guys who peaked in high school that bitch about athletes on the internet while the nerds are out drilling Brazilian jiu jitsu. I have a 27 year old daughter who rolled for 7 years And took Krav for 8 and currently teaches. She also has a MBA. I honestly feel like I won. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Yes Ed Reed would have clearly dominated with a front four that can't produce a single sack. You guys are so sour on the Jets you can't even appreciate when we have a good player. I guess most of you would have preferred Loafer Revis at CB and superstar Pryor than "suffering" with the 2 safeties who can -OMG play good. Why can't you understand? We are not soured on Adams as a player. We are soured on an administration that has no concept of positional value. I am not saying that Maye and Adams will not be good pros. I am saying that IMO: Calvin Pryor + Deshaun Watson > Jamaal Adams + Josh McCown -OMG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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