Scott Dierking Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Not necessarily. As a mid-high 2nd-rounder, Nugent received a little over $1.6M signing bonus just last season. If he was cut, then we'd eat half that this year & half next year. At the time I think we were cutting it pretty thin. Keep in mind we had to allocate $6M extra for Chad as LTBE incentives. Also I think Mangini would rather grade a kicker in pressure situations more than training camp. So unless Nugent was suddenly the worst kicker he'd ever seen he wouldn't get cut. What would that do to Mangini's "open competition" mantra? These guys all CAN kick field goals. What needed evaluating was whether they WOULD kick FG's when a pressure situation arose. SE-The question was to WHY the Jets did not have another kicker in camp, and I believe that AG said it was because of CAP. That is if I understand the thread correctly. My comment was that CAP could not have been the reason, as only the top 51 cotracts count to the cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 SE-The question was to WHY the Jets did not have another kicker in camp, and I believe that AG said it was because of CAP. That is if I understand the thread correctly. My comment was that CAP could not have been the reason, as only the top 51 cotracts count to the cap SD -- that is exactly what we were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 SE-The question was to WHY the Jets did not have another kicker in camp, and I believe that AG said it was because of CAP. That is if I understand the thread correctly. My comment was that CAP could not have been the reason, as only the top 51 cotracts count to the cap That is what I'm talking about. If someone beat out Nugent in camp, his SB would count against the cap (in addition to that of a new kicker). Has nothing to do with two kickers counting against a "temporary" cap during pre-season while a competition is ongoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 That is what I'm talking about. If someone beat out Nugent in camp, his SB would count against the cap (in addition to that of a new kicker). Has nothing to do with two kickers counting against a "temporary" cap during pre-season while a competition is ongoing. But, SE, that does not PRECLUDE the Jets from bringing in a kicker in camp to compete. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 But, SE, that does not PRECLUDE the Jets from bringing in a kicker in camp to compete. Correct? That's what I was saying. In a way it does. If the competition beats out Nugent, he has to cut Nugent. Then there comes the cap hit. If there's no competition you don't have that cap problem. Man, you're argumentative. Is this why nobody likes me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 That's what I was saying. In a way it does. If the competition beats out Nugent, he has to cut Nugent. Then there comes the cap hit. If there's no competition you don't have that cap problem. Man, you're argumentative. Is this why nobody likes me? Ok, my premise was along the line of bringing someone to PUSH Nugent and make him work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 That's what I was saying. In a way it does. If the competition beats out Nugent, he has to cut Nugent. Then there comes the cap hit. If there's no competition you don't have that cap problem. Man, you're argumentative. Is this why nobody likes me? That is one of the reasons. The other is your hatred for Herm. Herm is a proven winner. He is in the middle of turning K.C. around and yet you refuse to change your avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 That is one of the reasons. The other is your hatred for Herm. Herm is a proven winner. He is in the middle of turning K.C. around and yet you refuse to change your avatar. If by turning around you mean going backwards, then I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 If by turning around you mean going backwards, then I agree. Are you saying that Herm is not a good coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Are you saying that Herm is not a good coach? Sure. Out of all the head coaches, currently working in the NFL in that capacity, he's in the top 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 Sure. Out of all the head coaches, currently working in the NFL in that capacity, he's in the top 32. Okay. We agree then. He is a better head coach then you would be. That is my point ultimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Okay. We agree then. He is a better head coach then you would be. That is my point ultimately. Is that what I said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 Is that what I said? Is that what you think I thought you said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBeans Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Okay. We agree then. He is a better head coach then you would be. That is my point ultimately. Not so fast, Max - Spermie, can you tell time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 This is supposed to be about Andrew Gross people, Andrew Gross. And his ability to chat. And simultaneously irk Bitonti. (oh, and Sperm not understanding me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 This is supposed to be about Andrew Gross people, Andrew Gross. And his ability to chat. And simultaneously irk Bitonti. (oh, and Sperm not understanding me) I did hijack this thread. I just wanted to piss off Spermie a bit. I should have done it in my own thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I did hijack this thread. I just wanted to piss off Spermie a bit. I should have done it in my own thread! well i found it rather comical lol But anyways, as for the chat, i agree with greenbeans...very intresting on the romeo crennel thing. I wonder what the odds are of something like that actually happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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