faba Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Prisco ranks the NFL's top offensive players at each position. Quarterback Player 1. Peyton Manning, Colts How much more can he do from a statistical standpoint? Now it's time to win the ring. 2. Tom Brady, Patriots He doesn't put up big numbers, but he gets it done when it counts. The guy is a legitimate star. 3. Daunte Culpepper, Vikings If not for Manning's amazing season, we'd all be talking about what Culpepper did. Now comes the hard part: Doing it without Randy Moss. 4. Donovan McNabb, Eagles When he finally got a legitimate weapon in Terrell Owens we saw how good McNabb can be. He elevated his game last season. 5. Michael Vick, Falcons He's a magical player at times, but he has to improve his passing. When that happens, look out. 6. Brett Favre, Packers He can still make some amazing plays with his arm, but he's not the same player he was a few years back. But we're glad he's back for another season. 7. Steve McNair, Titans Injuries crippled him last season, but he decided to keep playing instead of retiring. He's lost some weight and he's healthy again. But his team is crumbling around him. 8. Trent Green, Chiefs He had another huge year in 2004 from a numbers standpoint. He knows how to move the chains. 9. Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks He started slow in 2004, but he came on in the end. With a new, fat contract, he's the man in Seattle. With no more worries, he should play more relaxed. 10. Chad Pennington, Jets The one concern with Pennington is his rotator cuff injury. Will he get his velocity back? If not, the Jets are in trouble. Until Manning can prove to me and win a playoff game-Brady has to be the top guy right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 10. Chad Pennington, Jets WAY too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 WAY too high. Prisco is on the Jets payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Prisco is on the Jets payroll. Isn't it just sick reading these National Media guys that are in bed with one team. How can Prisco have any credibility with articles such as this. He is a moron and is stupid as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted June 16, 2005 Author Share Posted June 16, 2005 Isn't it just sick reading these National Media guys that are in bed with one team. How can Prisco have any credibility with articles such as this. He is a moron and is stupid as they come. Prisco not having Brady as number 1-I guess King's salary cap hit is too much for Kraft Chad has to be healthy this year- to show he is not chronic injury prone and to show how good he really is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 You CANNOT rank Manning ahead of Brady until he wins. CANNOT. It kills me, but Brady is probably the best there is right now. I STRESS RIGHT NOW! Still, throw them all in an expansion draft, and I'm taking Culpepper. If he's gone I'll take Vick and run the option. Penny being #10 on that list just shows you how depleted the QB pool is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Penny being #10 on that list just shows you how depleted the QB pool is. TS has obviously been hacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Where's Joey Harrington?! :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 wheres Eli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 EB50s list 1. Mannning 2. Brady (typo) 3. Culpepper (major dropoff after #2) 4. Pennington 5. Bulger 6. Hasselbeck 7. Favre 8. Green 9. Palmer 10. Vick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 EB50s list 1. Mannning 2. Brady (typo) 3. Culpepper (major dropoff after #2) 4. Pennington 5. Bulger 6. Hasselbeck 7. Favre 8. Green 9. Palmer 10. Vick Are you smoking cookie and dough mix? There is no way PennyBoySissy is a better QB than: Bulger Hasselbeck Favre Green Palmer Vick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Call me crazy but give me Big Ben over any of the others, save for Brady. 16-1 record his first (ROOKIE) year, are you kiddin'? Much like Brady, stats don't matter nearly as much as wins IMO. This guy finds a way to get it done with the best of em'. Some may say he choked in the PO's, but those of us who follow him closely KNOW what kind of character and leadership Ben has. Time will tell of course, but ya heard it here first. Ben IS one of the premier QB's of the future. Coincedentally, Chad would be my number 3 behind Ben and Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Call me crazy but give me Big Ben over any of the others, save for Brady. 16-1 record his first (ROOKIE) year, are you kiddin'? Much like Brady, stats don't matter nearly as much as wins IMO. This guy finds a way to get it done with the best of em'. Paul, Big Ben's year last season was identical to PennyBoy's first year. We all saw which direction he headed after that. If Roethlisberger comes back strong this year, he deserves to be elevated on the list. I think the 1st quarter of the season is critical for him. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Trent Green has always gotten a lot of love from a lot of people. Maybe it's because I only see 2-3 Chiefs games a year at best but I just have never seen Top 10 QB play in the guy. :? But then again, I havn't from Hasselback either. I would have those two out, Chad 8th, maybe 7th, depends on McNair's health, and at 9/10 I would have Marc Bulger and Jake Delhomme...but that's just me. I bet the majority if not all of you will disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanDoug Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 All we hear in what you call the Pacific Northwest is Hasselbeck this, Hasselbeck that, blah, blah, yada, yada. What has he done? I think he's average. d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 10. Chad Pennington, Jets The one concern with Pennington is his rotator cuff injury. Will he get his velocity back? If not, the Jets are in trouble. There's something wrong with this statement. "Will he get his velocity back?" In order to get his velocity back, wouldn't he indeed had to have had some form of velocity to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Pennington should be 9. HASSELBECK? The guy is a JOKE. A JOKE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 My Top 10 QB's: 1 - Tom Brady 3 time Super Bowl Champion / 2 time Super Bowl MVP 2 - Peyton Manning John Madden could do what he does with that offensive cast, although Peyton has smarts, he still hasn't been able to beat Brady 3 - Brett Favre The old guy still has a hell of a arm and heart. 4 - Donovan McNabb Sort of like Favre. Strong arm, not as strong of course, and for the most part has done well with no-name WR's. 5 - Daunte Culpepper I like the guy but lets see if he can do it without Randy Moss before he gets pushed ahead of Favre and McNabb. 6 - Michael Vick Nobody has the explosiveness and the game changing ability like this guy, which is why he edges Pennington by just a notch. 7 - Chad Pennington The guy when he's been healthy has led to the Jets in his 2 seasons that he's been QB for more than 12 games. With Coles back and his arm from Marshall hoping to be back, watch out for a big year if he can stay healthy. 8 - Steve McNair Co-MVP of 2003 had a huge off year last year due to missing many games due to injury and such and with the team he has around him now, it would be a miracle to see Air McNair launching deep balls in the playoffs anytime soon. 9 - Marc Bulger Sure he has Issac Bruce and Tory Holt but the guy seems to stay healthy and has a good arm on him, only problem with him is the INT's. 10 - Jake Delhomme Only has been the Carolina Panthers' starting QB for 2 seasons but he's shown a lot of guts and heart out there and will probably lead the team back into the playoffs this sesaon. Posted nice #'s last year with Steve Smith, his favorite target, even though Muhsin was there, just wasn't the same. Just missed: 11 - Drew Brees 12 - Matt Hasselback 13 - Trent Green 14 - Byron Leftwich 15 - David Carr Still something to prove: 16 - Ben Roethlisberger 17 - Carson Palmer 18 - Aaron Brooks 19 - Kyle Boller 20 - Eli Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Are you smoking cookie and dough mix? There is no way PennyBoySissy is a better QB than: Bulger Hasselbeck Favre Green Palmer Vick Dude, Hasselbeck is overrated, Pennington is better than him. Michael Vick is a TERRIBLE QB. Trent Green is a very good QB, but he really benefits in that system. Favre I love to watch, but he makes too many mistakes. Bulger is pretty much level with Pennington. Palmer has never had a very good season, he's had very good games, and had very good 1/4 of a season, but he's not done anything to to warrant being better than the rest. But I think Palmer will really rise up by this time next year to a top 5 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 The NFL is filled with tons of SOLID QBs who never even get mentioned when talking about these things. examples: David Carr, Byron Leftwich, Jeff Garcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 My Top 10 QB's: 1 - Tom Brady 3 time Super Bowl Champion / 2 time Super Bowl MVP 2 - Peyton Manning John Madden could do what he does with that offensive cast, although Peyton has smarts, he still hasn't been able to beat Brady 3 - Brett Favre The old guy still has a hell of a arm and heart. 4 - Donovan McNabb Sort of like Favre. Strong arm, not as strong of course, and for the most part has done well with no-name WR's. 5 - Daunte Culpepper I like the guy but lets see if he can do it without Randy Moss before he gets pushed ahead of Favre and McNabb. 6 - Michael Vick Nobody has the explosiveness and the game changing ability like this guy, which is why he edges Pennington by just a notch. 7 - Chad Pennington The guy when he's been healthy has led to the Jets in his 2 seasons that he's been QB for more than 12 games. With Coles back and his arm from Marshall hoping to be back, watch out for a big year if he can stay healthy. 8 - Steve McNair Co-MVP of 2003 had a huge off year last year due to missing many games due to injury and such and with the team he has around him now, it would be a miracle to see Air McNair launching deep balls in the playoffs anytime soon. 9 - Marc Bulger Sure he has Issac Bruce and Tory Holt but the guy seems to stay healthy and has a good arm on him, only problem with him is the INT's. 10 - Jake Delhomme Only has been the Carolina Panthers' starting QB for 2 seasons but he's shown a lot of guts and heart out there and will probably lead the team back into the playoffs this sesaon. Posted nice #'s last year with Steve Smith, his favorite target, even though Muhsin was there, just wasn't the same. Just missed: 11 - Drew Brees 12 - Matt Hasselback 13 - Trent Green 14 - Byron Leftwich 15 - David Carr Still something to prove: 16 - Ben Roethlisberger 17 - Carson Palmer 18 - Aaron Brooks 19 - Kyle Boller 20 - Eli Manning Not even close: 21 - Rex Grossman 22 - Kerry Collins 23 - Jake Plummer 24 - Kurt Warner 25 - Drew Bledsoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Prisco is on the Jets payroll. Yeah because Hasselbeck and Green are better QB's than Pennington. Geez, if you guys don't get every single thing you want you really sound like a woman with PMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Jake Delhomme belongs in the top ten. Warrior who never quits. Scared the sh*t out of the PATS in Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Jake Delhomme belongs in the top ten. Agree. Delhomme continues to be the most under rated QB in the NFL. Can anybody have a better half of football than he did against the Pats in the Super Bowl. Talk about precision throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Look above to mine, Delhomme at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Jake Delhomme belongs in the top ten. Warrior who never quits. Scared the sh*t out of the PATS in Super Bowl. You got that right. All the more impressive after his start in that game. He finished with 323 and that was after having like -1 yard with 4 minutes to go in the first half. Plus, he had a great season last year after losing like all of his supporting cast except Mushin Muhammed. He should be on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Man.. all the disrespect for Joey Harrington... for shame y'all! For shame!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentucky Jet Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 PRISCO must not be a football fan or he didnot watch CHAD play last year. He has not been the same since OAKLAND in the 2002 playoffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Trent Green has always gotten a lot of love from a lot of people. Maybe it's because I only see 2-3 Chiefs games a year at best but I just have never seen Top 10 QB play in the guy. :? Trent Green is like a poor man's Peyton Manning. Everyone always says "give Indy a good defense and Manning would lead that team to a ring for sure." Well, couldn't the same be said about Trent Green and the Chiefs? That offense has performed at a high level every year he's been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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