PatsFanTX Posted June 27, 2005 Author Share Posted June 27, 2005 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/06/27/mmqb.law/index.html The question is where. "I had a good workout in Jacksonville,'' he said. "They told me, 'Play corner,' and I went and did all the drills -- plant, cut, do every angle you can possibly do, sprint. I was fine. Now Miami wants me to come back and visit. But if you can't afford Patrick Surtain [who was dealt to Kansas City in April], how can you afford me? The Jets are interested. Kansas City called again. Tampa Bay faxed an offer. Indianapolis is in it. I got an offer, sight unseen for $2.5 million for one year. If I wasn't ready, I'd just take it. But I'm going to be ready to play and that's not the kind of contract I should get. Before they signed Surtain, the Chiefs gave me, like, a $42 million offer. But it was structured so bad that I'd probably only make $10 million before they'd cut me. So I didn't do it.'' But making a judgment on Law now is difficult. One coach of an interested team told me, "I want to wait to see what he looks like right before camp, if he's still on the street, before we commit to making him an offer. He's 31, coming off a major injury, and he's still not 100 percent. If we do anything, it won't be for a lot of money.'' In fact, this coach told me (and this is a coach who needs a corner) his team would probably offer Law only the minimum. But will any team out there offer Law, say, $6 million to sign, as part of a four-year, backloaded, heavily incentived deal? I think that's what would be fair if and only if you trust him to give you a couple of healthy years. Two things I had to ask Law about: his weight, and his relationship with Belichick, whom Law called a liar last year when the Patriots didn't give him the contract he felt was fair. I told Law there were people in the NFL world who were worried that he'd gotten fat from all his inactivity. "I heard that,'' he said. "You know, I went six months non-weight-bearing. (Meaning he couldn't put any weight on his foot.) I usually report to camp at 200 and play at around 205. Being non-weight-bearing, I was probably on the plus side of 220, but I never weighed myself. Who's not going to gain some weight when you can't put any weight on your leg for half a year? I was bedridden, basically. Come on. I can't recall an offseason where my weight didn't go up anyway, and I never was overweight entering training camp.'' On Belichick: "We have a good relationship. When I saw him at our Super Bowl ceremony a couple of weeks ago, we shook hands. We hugged. I have no bitterness whatsoever toward Bill Belichick. He was great for my career. When it's all said and done, I was a great player before he got to the Patriots, but we worked together and won three Super Bowls together. I think what happened last year was the business side of football. The Patriots had one idea of how much I should make, and I had another idea. You can't blame a team for trying to cut a player's pay, but you can't blame a player either for not letting it happen. Sometimes business gets emotional. You put your heart and soul into something, and some team doesn't want to pay you what you're supposed to make, and it hurts. But we got over it. We squashed everything in training camp, forgot about it, and moved on. After the season, I asked for my release, and I respect Bill for giving it to me. He could have waited. Lots of players have to wait till June, but Bill released me and let me go about my business. I will have a good relationship with Bill when football is over.'' The Law I talked with for 45 minutes the other day was eager to prove a lot of people wring, but I noted after the call that he said a couple of times he didn't want go somewhere just to be able to beat the Patriots. He wants to play for a contender, but he also wants to be paid. It'll be interesting to see if anyone forks over a bonus, or if Law will have to sign a one-year deal and prove he deserves real money in 2006. I expect we'll have an answer by a month from today, when the training camp doors open leaguewide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/06/27/mmqb.law/index.html The question is where. "I had a good workout in Jacksonville,'' he said. "They told me, 'Play corner,' and I went and did all the drills -- plant, cut, do every angle you can possibly do, sprint. I was fine. Now Miami wants me to come back and visit. But if you can't afford Patrick Surtain [who was dealt to Kansas City in April], how can you afford me? The Jets are interested. Kansas City called again. Tampa Bay faxed an offer. Indianapolis is in it. I got an offer, sight unseen for $2.5 million for one year. If I wasn't ready, I'd just take it. But I'm going to be ready to play and that's not the kind of contract I should get. Before they signed Surtain, the Chiefs gave me, like, a $42 million offer. But it was structured so bad that I'd probably only make $10 million before they'd cut me. So I didn't do it.'' But making a judgment on Law now is difficult. One coach of an interested team told me, "I want to wait to see what he looks like right before camp, if he's still on the street, before we commit to making him an offer. He's 31, coming off a major injury, and he's still not 100 percent. If we do anything, it won't be for a lot of money.'' In fact, this coach told me (and this is a coach who needs a corner) his team would probably offer Law only the minimum. But will any team out there offer Law, say, $6 million to sign, as part of a four-year, backloaded, heavily incentived deal? I think that's what would be fair if and only if you trust him to give you a couple of healthy years. Two things I had to ask Law about: his weight, and his relationship with Belichick, whom Law called a liar last year when the Patriots didn't give him the contract he felt was fair. I told Law there were people in the NFL world who were worried that he'd gotten fat from all his inactivity. "I heard that,'' he said. "You know, I went six months non-weight-bearing. (Meaning he couldn't put any weight on his foot.) I usually report to camp at 200 and play at around 205. Being non-weight-bearing, I was probably on the plus side of 220, but I never weighed myself. Who's not going to gain some weight when you can't put any weight on your leg for half a year? I was bedridden, basically. Come on. I can't recall an offseason where my weight didn't go up anyway, and I never was overweight entering training camp.'' On Belichick: "We have a good relationship. When I saw him at our Super Bowl ceremony a couple of weeks ago, we shook hands. We hugged. I have no bitterness whatsoever toward Bill Belichick. He was great for my career. When it's all said and done, I was a great player before he got to the Patriots, but we worked together and won three Super Bowls together. I think what happened last year was the business side of football. The Patriots had one idea of how much I should make, and I had another idea. You can't blame a team for trying to cut a player's pay, but you can't blame a player either for not letting it happen. Sometimes business gets emotional. You put your heart and soul into something, and some team doesn't want to pay you what you're supposed to make, and it hurts. But we got over it. We squashed everything in training camp, forgot about it, and moved on. After the season, I asked for my release, and I respect Bill for giving it to me. He could have waited. Lots of players have to wait till June, but Bill released me and let me go about my business. I will have a good relationship with Bill when football is over.'' The Law I talked with for 45 minutes the other day was eager to prove a lot of people wring, but I noted after the call that he said a couple of times he didn't want go somewhere just to be able to beat the Patriots. He wants to play for a contender, but he also wants to be paid. It'll be interesting to see if anyone forks over a bonus, or if Law will have to sign a one-year deal and prove he deserves real money in 2006. I expect we'll have an answer by a month from today, when the training camp doors open leaguewide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Anyone who gives Law a back-loaded deal with a $6 mil bonus should have their heads examined. Cornerbacks, more than any other position, (unless you're Darrell Green) fall off precipitously. They're great one year, then the next year they can't stay with their shadow. If a team is going to strictly bang that cover-two and make Law only run about 20-25 yards per snap, then he should sign there. But if they ask him to man up on a receiver for even 5 plays a game, he'll be on Sportscenter getting burned to a crisp every weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Anyone who gives Law a back-loaded deal with a $6 mil bonus should have their heads examined. Cornerbacks, more than any other position, (unless you're Darrell Green) fall off precipitously. They're great one year, then the next year they can't stay with their shadow. If a team is going to strictly bang that cover-two and make Law only run about 20-25 yards per snap, then he should sign there. But if they ask him to man up on a receiver for even 5 plays a game, he'll be on Sportscenter getting burned to a crisp every weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 27, 2005 Author Share Posted June 27, 2005 Anyone who gives Law a back-loaded deal with a $6 mil bonus should have their heads examined. Why wouldn't you give Law a back-loaded contract? These are usually incentive laden and easy to get out of for the team (just cut the player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 27, 2005 Author Share Posted June 27, 2005 Anyone who gives Law a back-loaded deal with a $6 mil bonus should have their heads examined. Why wouldn't you give Law a back-loaded contract? These are usually incentive laden and easy to get out of for the team (just cut the player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Why wouldn't you give Law a back-loaded contract? These are usually incentive laden and easy to get out of for the team (just cut the player). Law indicated that that's what KC offered him and he refused it. It looks like Law wants it not only back-loaded, but guaranteed, like the Niners used to sign all of those guys prior to their collapse. A Gary Plummer deal. I think that guy is still getting a Niners paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Why wouldn't you give Law a back-loaded contract? These are usually incentive laden and easy to get out of for the team (just cut the player). Law indicated that that's what KC offered him and he refused it. It looks like Law wants it not only back-loaded, but guaranteed, like the Niners used to sign all of those guys prior to their collapse. A Gary Plummer deal. I think that guy is still getting a Niners paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Peter King=Patriots shill I got him on ignore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Peter King=Patriots shill I got him on ignore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 On Belichick: "We have a good relationship. When I saw him at our Super Bowl ceremony a couple of weeks ago, we shook hands. We hugged. I have no bitterness whatsoever toward Bill Belichick. He was great for my career. When it's all said and done, I was a great player before he got to the Patriots, but we worked together and won three Super Bowls together. I think what happened last year was the business side of football. The Patriots had one idea of how much I should make, and I had another idea. You can't blame a team for trying to cut a player's pay, but you can't blame a player either for not letting it happen. Sometimes business gets emotional. You put your heart and soul into something, and some team doesn't want to pay you what you're supposed to make, and it hurts. But we got over it. We squashed everything in training camp, forgot about it, and moved on. After the season, I asked for my release, and I respect Bill for giving it to me. He could have waited. Lots of players have to wait till June, but Bill released me and let me go about my business. I will have a good relationship with Bill when football is over.'' Yes, it could be Ty trying to play "the better man" for his FA payday.... I'm sure that is involved. At the same time keep this in mind: Ty Law is on the top 5 list of Players Who Should Hate Belichick Because He's Allegedly A Bastard, along with Bledsoe, Glenn, Milloy, and uh.... someone. If Ty Law is saying "I have no bitterness.... I respect Bill... we hugged." then lets just can any cr** about how BB is bad to his players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 On Belichick: "We have a good relationship. When I saw him at our Super Bowl ceremony a couple of weeks ago, we shook hands. We hugged. I have no bitterness whatsoever toward Bill Belichick. He was great for my career. When it's all said and done, I was a great player before he got to the Patriots, but we worked together and won three Super Bowls together. I think what happened last year was the business side of football. The Patriots had one idea of how much I should make, and I had another idea. You can't blame a team for trying to cut a player's pay, but you can't blame a player either for not letting it happen. Sometimes business gets emotional. You put your heart and soul into something, and some team doesn't want to pay you what you're supposed to make, and it hurts. But we got over it. We squashed everything in training camp, forgot about it, and moved on. After the season, I asked for my release, and I respect Bill for giving it to me. He could have waited. Lots of players have to wait till June, but Bill released me and let me go about my business. I will have a good relationship with Bill when football is over.'' Yes, it could be Ty trying to play "the better man" for his FA payday.... I'm sure that is involved. At the same time keep this in mind: Ty Law is on the top 5 list of Players Who Should Hate Belichick Because He's Allegedly A Bastard, along with Bledsoe, Glenn, Milloy, and uh.... someone. If Ty Law is saying "I have no bitterness.... I respect Bill... we hugged." then lets just can any cr** about how BB is bad to his players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 5 things I think I think 1- I think peter king cannot talk about football without involving at least one of the pats & or brett farve's rectal region & his own nose 2- I think peter king cannot do a mmqb article without praising the wonderful king family's sports abilities on the lower levels 3- I think there was at least one ambulance at the ball park on standby knowing coach king could collapse at any moment due to heat & weight factors, possibly crushing a small child caught in the path of Mr king & the ground 4- I think I'm surprised to hear starbucks didn't sponsor his team & call them the latte bears 5- I think I'll stop reading the always predictable King articles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 5 things I think I think 1- I think peter king cannot talk about football without involving at least one of the pats & or brett farve's rectal region & his own nose 2- I think peter king cannot do a mmqb article without praising the wonderful king family's sports abilities on the lower levels 3- I think there was at least one ambulance at the ball park on standby knowing coach king could collapse at any moment due to heat & weight factors, possibly crushing a small child caught in the path of Mr king & the ground 4- I think I'm surprised to hear starbucks didn't sponsor his team & call them the latte bears 5- I think I'll stop reading the always predictable King articles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 5- I think I'll stop reading the always predictable King articles you hit it hard with #5 JW-he can't write anything w/o mentioning N.E.-kinda like the other fatass who always has the inside Parcells info-forgot his name-wait is IT KING too-the guy on WFAN NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 5- I think I'll stop reading the always predictable King articles you hit it hard with #5 JW-he can't write anything w/o mentioning N.E.-kinda like the other fatass who always has the inside Parcells info-forgot his name-wait is IT KING too-the guy on WFAN NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 you hit it hard with #5 JW-he can't write anything w/o mentioning N.E.-kinda like the other fatass who always has the inside Parcells info-forgot his name-wait is IT KING too-the guy on WFAN NYC That's Francesa or more fittingly Fatcesa, another fat tub of sh*t who thinks he knows it all but really is only an expert at working the buffet table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 you hit it hard with #5 JW-he can't write anything w/o mentioning N.E.-kinda like the other fatass who always has the inside Parcells info-forgot his name-wait is IT KING too-the guy on WFAN NYC That's Francesa or more fittingly Fatcesa, another fat tub of sh*t who thinks he knows it all but really is only an expert at working the buffet table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 That's Francesa or more fittingly Fatcesa, another fat tub of Sh#t who thinks he knows it all but really is only an expert at working the buffet table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 That's Francesa or more fittingly Fatcesa, another fat tub of Sh#t who thinks he knows it all but really is only an expert at working the buffet table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 That's Francesa or more fittingly Fatcesa, another fat tub of Sh#t who thinks he knows it all but really is only an expert at working the buffet table. that's right GreenDNA thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 That's Francesa or more fittingly Fatcesa, another fat tub of Sh#t who thinks he knows it all but really is only an expert at working the buffet table. that's right GreenDNA thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I just find it hard to believe that Law will be productive at all this season. Coming off a major injury like that the first year is probably a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdawg Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I wouldnt examine their head, I would their carreer>>>the man is clearly not worth 2.5 mill much less 6 Mill. FORGET U Ty LAW the dawg sez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I just find it hard to believe that Law will be productive at all this season. Coming off a major injury like that the first year is probably a wash. Agreed. Anyone who mortgages his future for Law is a fool. Sure I wouldn't mind signing him, but he is NOT, repeat NOT, worth the money he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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