SouthernJet Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I will start: someone agressive,,no pro experience, but a helluva DC.. Jon Tenuta..probably out of jib since Gailey got canned as Georgia Tech HC..., if we stay on the NFL front,, can we get Rex Ryan from Baltimore?? Do we have to promote him to assistand HC? demote westhoff?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Anyone but Sutton....If John Fox gets canned I think he's worth a look @. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 28, 2007 Author Share Posted November 28, 2007 Anyone but Sutton....If John Fox gets canned I think he's worth a look @. good point,, i think fox gets canned if cowher tells richardson, panthers owner, he is ready for 2008,, i hear cowher wants back in in 2009, and the panthers will let fox ride one year waiting for cowher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#90 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I don't understand why when the season is over that we don't throw a draft pick at the Raiders for their DC Ryan. He is Mangini's very good buddy and is exactly what we need to fire up our defense! Plus, the Raiders blow. Why force the guy to stay another year or so? Ryan is 100% Mangini's boy from their days back with the Pats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2C Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I personally miss Donnie Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I will start: someone agressive,,no pro experience, but a helluva DC.. Jon Tenuta..probably out of jib since Gailey got canned as Georgia Tech HC..., if we stay on the NFL front,, can we get Rex Ryan from Baltimore?? Do we have to promote him to assistand HC? demote westhoff?? Right now I'd let Judy Tenuta give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i remember shea Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Right now I'd let Judy Tenuta give it a go. potwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmart28Coles87 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 We need to bring in a DC whos know the 3-4 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 We need to bring in a DC whos know the 3-4 defense. I'm not so sure that is the problem. I just don't think we have the players for it. I was behind the transition but then the FO refuses to bring the players in so now I am against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojet28 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 how about bringing back mike nolan if/when he gets canned. hes was a good coordinator in every spot hes been in, including here, and he runs a 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybroome Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I'm willing to send you Cincinnati's DC Chuck Bresnahan for the enormus cost of a genuine New York Pepperoni Pizza. Deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Mike Singletary anyone? The shaggy Ryan in Oakland would be cool too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Well since Romeo isn't going anywhere in Cleveland now, John Fox is someone we should take a serious look at since it looks like he may be on his way out in Carolina. If so, there is no reason why Tangini shouldn't go after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 we need somebody who undestands what it takes to run a 3-4 defense-exactly the way Randy Shannon explained it in Jetcane's post in a different thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I'm willing to send you Cincinnati's DC Chuck Bresnahan for the enormus cost of a genuine New York Pepperoni Pizza. Deal? The Bengals have a DC? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 Raiders head coach, Lane Kiffin is apparently talking to Arkansas about HC opening,, that might mean DC Ryan would be available if new coach hired in oakland,, unless he is tabbed as new coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Raiders head coach, Lane Kiffin is apparently talking to Arkansas about HC opening,, that might mean DC Ryan would be available if new coach hired in oakland,, unless he is tabbed as new coach didn't Ryan get a new contract after the last stiff out there was fired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 Atlanta's Bobby Petrino is also heading to LSU to replace Miles when he goes/if he goes to Michigan,, atlanta's DC , Mike Zimmer would then free up,,he was Parcells DC in Dallas,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Fox or Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 I will start: someone agressive,,no pro experience, but a helluva DC.. Jon Tenuta..probably out of jib since Gailey got canned as Georgia Tech HC..., if we stay on the NFL front,, can we get Rex Ryan from Baltimore?? Do we have to promote him to assistand HC? demote westhoff?? timely bump... Rex Ryan?? Rob Ryan?? Jim Haslett?? Ron Rivera?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 The Bengals have a DC? LOL Yes but he is busy because he also serves as teams morality director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 timely bump... Rex Ryan?? Rob Ryan?? Jim Haslett?? Ron Rivera?? Hellz Yeah....give me one of the Ryan's!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 i will take Fox or Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 i will take Fox or Nolan interesting,,Fox may be available,,but very rare for a HC to take a assitant gig immediately,,could happen, but doubtful,,I also hear Fox gets another year cause Panthers are waiting on Cowher in 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravejamriot Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Now I think these guys would be good. I like Ryan in Oakland a lot. But first, does Sutton definitely get fired? Defense has improved, played great against the Pats, but that may have been Mangini taking a more active role in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I've said this before, but the Jets will not be signing a big name DC. The Ryans are both great, but AFAIK, both are under contract as DCs. This means they can't be hired in a lateral move, they must at least be given "Assistant Head Coach" titles. I can't see Mangini giving that kind of power up. I can't see him hiring a big name DC or anybody with prior HC experience like Fox or Nolan because it solve nothing but to undermine his authority. IMO, it would not be good for the team. You either fire him or let him do things his way. Giving him Fox as a DC would be like drafting Brady Quinn in '07 and then saying "Clemens is the QB of the future. Not to bright in my book. More realistic candidates are guys like Bryan Cox that have some fire, but limited experience. Sutton was hired because he is as old as the hills and experienced, but not looking for a top job in the future. Now that Mangini has been around a bit he can afford to hire a young buck that doesn't have so much experience. What's Pepper Johnson doing these days? That'd have the added benefit of pissing little Bill off further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 I've said this before, but the Jets will not be signing a big name DC. The Ryans are both great, but AFAIK, both are under contract as DCs. This means they can't be hired in a lateral move, they must at least be given "Assistant Head Coach" titles. I can't see Mangini giving that kind of power up. I can't see him hiring a big name DC or anybody with prior HC experience like Fox or Nolan because it solve nothing but to undermine his authority. IMO, it would not be good for the team. You either fire him or let him do things his way. Giving him Fox as a DC would be like drafting Brady Quinn in '07 and then saying "Clemens is the QB of the future. Not to bright in my book. More realistic candidates are guys like Bryan Cox that have some fire, but limited experience. Sutton was hired because he is as old as the hills and experienced, but not looking for a top job in the future. Now that Mangini has been around a bit he can afford to hire a young buck that doesn't have so much experience. What's Pepper Johnson doing these days? That'd have the added benefit of pissing little Bill off further. both ryans may be availble,,especially the Baltimore Ryan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 both ryans may be availble,,especially the Baltimore Ryan.. Certainly possible, but I'd think they'd be more likely to hire and offensive minded coach and keep him on. Even if he's loose the other reasons I gave for not hiring a big name experienced DC still apply. A guy like Ryan will undermine Mangini's authority. Being Buddy's boys they don't seem like good choices for this choirboy act anyway though there is the Jets connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Don't be surprised if Mangin finds a position coach he promotes to DC whether its internally or from another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 both ryans may be availble,,especially the Baltimore Ryan.. I'd take either one SJ and the good news is that they are good friends with Eric Mangini-I hope Sutton gets demoted back to the linebackers or something or somewhere else. I think the reason the defense has been playing better is not because of Bob Sutton but because Mangini has taken more of the role on himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 The Ryan from Oakland though I'm not sure he's coached the 3-4...at least he would provide some attitude...plus Oakland has had some terrible teams but the defense still played tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBeans Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 The Bengals have a DC? LOL In house legal council on retainer is a must out there and they have to have someone coordinating the defense attorneys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandarinia Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I personally miss Donnie Henderson. Me too! Hes was a good DC. I wanted him as HC when Herm left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I've said this before, but the Jets will not be signing a big name DC. The Ryans are both great, but AFAIK, both are under contract as DCs. This means they can't be hired in a lateral move, they must at least be given "Assistant Head Coach" titles. I can't see Mangini giving that kind of power up. I can't see him hiring a big name DC or anybody with prior HC experience like Fox or Nolan because it solve nothing but to undermine his authority. IMO, it would not be good for the team. You either fire him or let him do things his way. Giving him Fox as a DC would be like drafting Brady Quinn in '07 and then saying "Clemens is the QB of the future. Not to bright in my book. More realistic candidates are guys like Bryan Cox that have some fire, but limited experience. Sutton was hired because he is as old as the hills and experienced, but not looking for a top job in the future. Now that Mangini has been around a bit he can afford to hire a young buck that doesn't have so much experience. What's Pepper Johnson doing these days? That'd have the added benefit of pissing little Bill off further. Asst HC is not considered a real job. DC and DC/AsstHC = lateral move according to the NFL Can't take someone else's DC unless we're planning on making him HC or GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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