Matt39 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Looks faily legit. Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Ha irston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, R obert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offe rman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, A lbert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rod riguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez , Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, IJason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood. Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Bar ry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton B radley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozz ie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenn y Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Fr anklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Jua n Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, jackkindregan (9:54:45 AM) : Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gon zalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Ma rk McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Good pluck Matt...looks like the usual suspects.....I thought there'd be more Mets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Just copied this off another site. it could be the same, or not. Leaked list: "Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafael Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Ma rk McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Wally Joyner? LMAO...the dude had no power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Veridouche, but no Ortizzle?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Franseca said Knoblach and Stanton's names just came out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Why is Juan Gonzalez listed twice? On both lists above? Did he take twice as much as the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 No Ortiz, and it's complete bullsheet. Senator Mitchell wants to keep getting Papi's aturograph for the tyke. Go Sawx! Kinda shocked Brian Macnamee-a former NYPD cop from Breezy Point and a graduate of St.John's- turned on his trainees Clemens and Pettitte .He is mentioned in media reports as a main source. You may recall the Yanks fired and banned him from any Yankee property after he was accused of slipping a mickey to a woman during a road trip at the Yankees Tampa hotel. No charges were ever filed. He continued to work with both and other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 albert pujols? pfft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 albert pujols? pfft Yep he was linked to Grimsley's guy back when he got busted as well. So much for ESPN putting up his 1st 5 season numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 No Ortiz, and it's complete bullsheet. Senator Mitchell wants to keep getting Papi's aturograph for the tyke. Go Sawx! Kinda shocked Brian Macnamee-a former NYPD cop from Breezy Point and a graduate of St.John's- turned on his trainees Clemens and Pettitte .He is mentioned in media reports as a main source. You may recall the Yanks fired and banned him from any Yankee property after he was accused of slipping a mickey to a woman during a road trip at the Yankees Tampa hotel. No charges were ever filed. He continued to work with both and other players. uhhh... ... this report isnt a complete and definitive report of every baseball player to take steroids. This report is mostly based off Radomski's clients and Grimsley's problems. I'm sure there are tons of other players who have taken steroids but there is no evidence to link them. And you cant accuse them of something without evidence. You find some evidence beyond "his head is bigger" and you can help clean up baseball. If you dont have any, put away your bias and shut the hell up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 uhhh... ... this report isnt a complete and definitive report of every baseball player to take steroids. This report is mostly based off Radomski's clients and Grimsley's problems. I'm sure there are tons of other players who have taken steroids but there is no evidence to link them. And you cant accuse them of something without evidence. This small blurb needs to be published for the world to see. The Mitchell Report is basically a joke. He did not bring forth the real users throughout the game. He based his entire report on the testimony of Radomski, and as a result of Radomski, he also linked to the Yankee trainer. The rest of the names in his report are based on the FBI raid on Grimsley, Balco, and the Federal case against Bonds. Because no one talked to him, and he was unable to get access to the trainers and clubhouse people in other cities, as they refused to meet Mitchell, the overwhelming majority of players are scott free from blame based on this report. That alone makes this a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrik Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Looks faily legit. where did you get these names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 where did you get these names? It was an email floating around the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 This small blurb needs to be published for the world to see. The Mitchell Report is basically a joke. He did not bring forth the real users throughout the game. He based his entire report on the testimony of Radomski, and as a result of Radomski, he also linked to the Yankee trainer. The rest of the names in his report are based on the FBI raid on Grimsley, Balco, and the Federal case against Bonds. Because no one talked to him, and he was unable to get access to the trainers and clubhouse people in other cities, as they refused to meet Mitchell, the overwhelming majority of players are scott free from blame based on this report. That alone makes this a joke. No it doesn't. It simply makes it a small sample of the problem. As time goes by other suppliers will talk and other names from other teams and parts of the country will come out. I think listing names did no real good but just because Yankees are listed heavily throughout the report does not mean that it is untrue. Roger will talk tough now because Mitchell has no power to force him to talk to him under oath. If he did you likely wouldn't hear a peep out of Clemens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 No it doesn't. It simply makes it a small sample of the problem. As time goes by other suppliers will talk and other names from other teams and parts of the country will come out. I think listing names did no real good but just because Yankees are listed heavily throughout the report does not mean that it is untrue. Roger will talk tough now because Mitchell has no power to force him to talk to him under oath. If he did you likely wouldn't hear a peep out of Clemens. By listing names from only a small segment of the population, and admitting that he did not question any other segment except for the local NY ones, the report serves no purpose, since it, on surface, makes everyone else look like they are innocent, which I doubt is the case. It is like the "slowest car" theory, where everyone is traveling above the speed limit, but the cop only nabs the slowest speeder, as he could not catch up to the rest. In addition, what really, besides Clemens, was reported that was not known beforehand? Stop and think about it. What really did he report that was an unknown, and now is known beyond a shadow of doubt? Nothing. Nothing that will stand up in any Court in the land, except for the Court of Public opinion. And that Court has already convicted the entire Baseball population, at one time or another. Mitchell would have better served the MLB by leaving out the names, but describing all the sources of where the drugs come from, and how to remove them from the Game. That was all that was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrik Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 The Smoking Gun is Reporting that this list is bogus..being sent through email WNBC's Bogus Steroids Scoop Pujols, Nomar, Varitek on phony Mitchell list published by station DECEMBER 14--Shortly after ESPN broke the news yesterday that Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte would be nailed in the Mitchell Report, WNBC-TV, the NBC affiliate in New York, blew the story wide open. "Newschannel 4's Jonathan Dienst has obtained the expected list of current and former major league players linked to steroids, according to George Mitchell's investigation," reported the station's web site at 11:23 AM. The WNBC story then unspooled a list of 75 purported juicers, including Albert Pujols, Johnny Damon, Jason Varitek, Nomar Garciaparra, Ivan Rodriguez, Jeff Bagwell, Milton Bradley, Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, Trot Nixon, Mike Cameron, Brady Anderson, Albert Belle, Kyle Farnsworth, and Wally Joyner. The WNBC exclusive, which is reprinted below, was posted seven minutes after an identical list of names was published by the sports blog Deadspin, which reported that it had been forwarded the names by "about 25 different people" during the preceding hour. The list, which was whipping around via e-mail, "could very likely be one of those Web urban legends that somehow got around," Deadspin cautioned. WNBC, though, showed no such reserve. The station reported that it had received the list from "two separate sources" (which was still 23 "sources" fewer than Deadspin). But after WNBC posted the list, baseball officials began refuting the story, with the station reporting that Major League Baseball brass said there were "several discrepancies between the list posted and Mitchell's list." As it turned out, it was several dozen "discrepancies," with nearly half the names in WNBC's story not appearing in Mitchell's report. In fact, every name above--from Pujols to Joyner--can not be found in the Mitchell Report. The list was eventually yanked from the WNBC web site out of "an abundance of caution," the station reported in an updated story. The station has yet to retract (or apologize for) its original reporting. (1 page) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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