PatsFanTX Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JETS FACING REALITY ON PENNINGTON A league source tells us that the New York Jets quietly are becoming resigned to the looming-and-growing possibility that quarterback Chad Pennington won't be ready to play on opening day. If Pennington can't go, the ball will fall to (gulp) Jay Fiedler. Pennington had offseason shoulder surgery to repair a partially torn rotator cuff in his throwing arm. After the 2004 season ended, the Jets conceded that they had spoken with forked tongue about the severity of Pennington's injury. Earlier this week, the Jets acknowledged that Pennington will be limited in training camp. Coupled with an offseason in which he took no practice reps, Pennington will have a loooong way to go in order to get acclimated to new offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger's system. We're also hearing that some folks around the league are surprised that the typically tough New York media hasn't been harder on the Jets for lying about Pennington's condition. Moreover, we wonder whether the Big Apple scribes will regard with skepticism future statements from the team regarding any player's health. Why, you aks, would a team tell tales about a quarterback's physical condition? The obvious reason is that the team doesn't want opposing defenses to target with even more zeal potential problem areas on the signal-caller's body. The more subtle reason, especially in the waning days of the offseason, is that the team doesn't want to disrupt the wave of good feelings from the fan base, which often is manifested by high sales of tickets, shirts, hats, and anything else with the official logo on it. In New York, optimism is high. Too high. In our view, a splash of cold water could serve the Jets well, since even if Pennington is ready to go on opening day the franchise will be hard pressed to replicate its performance in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Not for nothing but I consider Fiedler a good backup. Why the GULP? He is one of the top backups out there. Also again Herm faces a double standard. He clearly lied about Chad. Good for him. When he is honest with other things, he gets KILLED for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Not for nothing but I consider Fiedler a good backup. Why the GULP? He is one of the top backups out there. Also again Herm faces a double standard. He clearly lied about Chad. Good for him. When he is honest with other things, he gets KILLED for it. I have read before that Florio has some connections in teh Dolphins org., and may evenm be a fan of theirs, and likes to tweak Jet fans. Consider the source. The last sentence is hilarious. Pure yellow journalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 There were a half dozen articles in yesterday's papers about Pennington. Not one of them even hinted that Chad may not be ready for the opener. I like PFT, and they've proven to get the scoop once in a while, but this one reads like mud-stirring speculation. No substance at all. Jets quietly are becoming resigned to the looming-and-growing possibility that quarterback Chad Pennington won't be ready to play on opening day. Some hard hitting facts there. I smell a slow news day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 I like PFT, and they've proven to get the scoop once in a while, but this one reads like mud-stirring speculation. No substance at all. PFT has a knack of getting some good inside information that is more often true than not. But some of their writers write like 3rd grade drop-outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Yeah like Maxman said this is kind of a dumb article. Most fans are glad Herm lied and Fiedler is not a terrible backup by any stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 PFT has a knack of getting some good inside information that is more often true than not. But some of their writers write like 3rd grade drop-outs. What no pictures this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Not for nothing, but if Penny doesn't start the opener, TomShane will run his "I'm right, you're all wrong" streak to 1,000,005 predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Not for nothing but I consider Fiedler a good backup. Why the GULP? He is one of the top backups out there. Also again Herm faces a double standard. He clearly lied about Chad. Good for him. When he is honest with other things, he gets KILLED for it. Agree. This is a weak article with absolutely no new news. Lets see the Jets signed Fiedler knowing Penny may not be ready so what revelation is this story bringing? The gulp statement on Fiedler makes me think this guy has a Miami agenda as well. Slow week for PFT, this article could have been written in February for the content or lack there of it contains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 WTF should the media need to know every little detail of a players health. The opponent needs to guess what's going on just a little bit, no? The press feel like they have some sort of entitlement to every scrao of inside information. Let them get the real inside info where everyone else on the planet gets it...on the premium content page at JI!! :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiJet Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I'll be honest. I am very worried about Pennington's shoulder. I also doubt that he'll be ready to start the season. He still can't throw deep, and he can't do two a days. he can't even throw on successive days! You also have to consider Herm taking the cautious approach and keeping Chad back a bit in preseason games. He won't risk Chad getting hurt. Fiedler and Bollinger will get th bulk of the snaps. Even if he is ok, how much will this effect his timing? The other thing I wanted to mention is that I have no concerns whatsoever about Fiedler starting. As long as it's not for the entire season. Jay proved himself to be a good starter, on some good Miami teams. Regardless of what people think, Jay beat some pretty good teams over the years, and has not played on a team with as good an offensive line, or with as many weapons as we have. He also didn't have a coordinator like Heimerdinger. This defense is good, and Jay finally has some real tools at his disposal. He also doesn't have the pressure of following in Dan Marino's footsteps. Fiedler is not great, but he does have one of the best records for a starting qb in the league. Fifty something wins and I think 20 losses. I also like he fact that Jay has worked with the starting unit and being a pretty intelligent person, has had time to diagnose the playbook. He is also good at rolling out, and Heimerdinger will use that to his advantage. Just my two cents...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Considering what he's been thru...i don't care if he's not ready for the opener. Sure we could use him but we could use a healthy him a lot more. If chad can't go till week 5 so be it...I have Jay Fiedler can hand the ball to curtis martin 35 times a game. Plus he's not terrible...he's no rohan davey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Can you smell that? Cant you just smell a Vinny Testaverde signing at some point this season? Can't you just see ol Vinster suiting up for our beloved Jets this year? Can ya smell what the Vinster's cookin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Can you smell that? Cant you just smell a Vinny Testaverde signing at some point this season? Can't you just see ol Vinster suiting up for our beloved Jets this year? Can ya smell what the Vinster's cookin? No worries Shane....Vinny T would only throw 1 pass as a NYJ...because id run onto the field and pick it off and then proceed to take out both his legs in the most vicious chop block in the history of the civilized world. Ill end him once and for all and there isn't enough lasagna in the world that can stop me!!!!!!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 GUARENTEED this is complete bullsh*t. PFT is the most unreliable rag going. I don't know how anyone could give them any credibility. Remember a few years ago when PFT reported that Fabini might not play any longer because he has knee problems or some crap that they completely fabricated. There was also another Jets nugget from PFT that was complete manure. No one should even give this article a second though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 From Todays Daily News. Says Pennington: "If I could play with a torn rotator cuff, I certainly can play with a surgically repaired one." Pennington was sent home from 'skull session" as Heime felt he was trying to absorb too much of the new offense. "It's almost like he was disappointed. I had to kick him out," Heimerdinger says with a laugh. "Everyone told me he was a gym rat, that I'd have to kick him out of my office, but I didn't realize it would be every day. I mean, every day. I didn't expect him to be that intense." It may not be week one which is not the end of the world. As Smizzy put it we are ok with Fiedler until Chad is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 This is the same writer who said Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown were both going to rush for 1500 yds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Not for nothing but I consider Fiedler a good backup. Why the GULP? He is one of the top backups out there. Bingo. We could be in the unenviable shoes of the Bears with Chad Hutchinson to throw the pea when, not if, Grossman gets wacked again. Everything I've read says Chad is coming along great and is 80% as we sit here. If Fiedler has to takes some snaps, he'll take them and do a good job. All indications are that Dingerball will yield a few more options than we've had for the last few years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 All PatsTrollTX does all day is dig for the most obscure friggin internet articles that have something bad to say about the Jets just so he can get a rise out of us. As big a loser as he is, check out this thread--- he's good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Not for nothing, but if Penny doesn't start the opener, TomShane will run his "I'm right, you're all wrong" streak to 1,000,005 predictions. If that happens I get the credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 This is the same writer who said Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown were both going to rush for 1500 yds... nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Not for nothing, but if Penny doesn't start the opener, TomShane will run his "I'm right, you're all wrong" streak to 1,000,005 predictions. Is that like taking all those 'daring' predictions like "The sun is going to rise tomorrow!" or "EB will post something stupid today."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 my biggest concern is having a wasted 6-10 season where pennington absolutely sh*ts the bed. and then all we hear in the off-season is how he was only 50% all year. he either plays at 100% or fiedler plays. this is put up or shut up time for chad and herm and i don't want any built in excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Let me see, what does my Crystal Ball tell me..... It tells me Adrian Jones is a weak link at O-Tackle.... It tells me Curtis Martin will finally hit the ol' age wall, and won't come close to his 2004 production.... It tells me Pennington will come back before he is ready (we all know Gung Ho Penny, right, no way he's staying on the sidelines)..... And it tells me the combination of the above will result in Chadwick being knocked out for the season by Week 8, or sooner. I PRAY that I am wrong on this (the way I pray I'm wrong about our Secondary Weakness, the Abraham Holdout and our new "Holy Savior" Kicker....) I PRAY that the hard and unpleasant feeling in the pit of my stomach all offseason goes away after a few early season wins proving me wrong..... I PRAY (and I'm not even religious!) But I am a realist. A praying only gets you so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I PRAY (and I'm not even religious!) Herman Edwards has that affect on people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Herman Edwards has that affect on people. Nope, it's not Herm I fear, and especially not our Co's. It's the huge gaping holes we have on our roster, that so many Jets fans have ignored all offseason. When a 30-something, returning from a severe knee problem, Mini Me Mickens has a legit shot at #2 CB, as it appears he does as of now, you know your secondary is in trouble. When Adrian "Turnstile" Jones is your unquestioned starter at O-Tackle, without a game of regular season experience and after looking for all the world like a human highway for D-Linemen, you know you have troubles. When you have to actively pray your starting RB hasn't gotton "too old".....you have trouble. When your season rests on the re-built arm of a QB who didn't hae much of an arm to start.....well, you get my drift. And when the highlight of your draft and offseason is a Kicker, a god-damn kicker, in round 2..........when you expect that kicker to the last brick to supposedly "get you over the hump"..... Well, we got trouble. Maybe they'll prove me wrong. Lord knows, I don't know everything. I sure hope so...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 25, 2005 Author Share Posted July 25, 2005 Let me see, what does my Crystal Ball tell me..... It tells me Adrian Jones is a weak link at O-Tackle.... It tells me Curtis Martin will finally hit the ol' age wall, and won't come close to his 2004 production.... It tells me Pennington will come back before he is ready (we all know Gung Ho Penny, right, no way he's staying on the sidelines)..... And it tells me the combination of the above will result in Chadwick being knocked out for the season by Week 8, or sooner. I PRAY that I am wrong on this (the way I pray I'm wrong about our Secondary Weakness, the Abraham Holdout and our new "Holy Savior" Kicker....) I PRAY that the hard and unpleasant feeling in the pit of my stomach all offseason goes away after a few early season wins proving me wrong..... I PRAY (and I'm not even religious!) Yo Fish, You think the Nat's can hang on? I'm with you on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Yo Fish, You think the Nat's can hang on? I'm with you on this one. Absolutely, Positively, No Way in Hell, No. Sadly They played well above their talent level in the first half, have finally been brough down by their massive injuries (almost every starter is pretty severely hobbled, and Nick Johnson still isn't back). Even healthy, they don't have nearly enough hitting. Add that to the fact their pitching staff is plain old worn down and tired..... Nope. They could EASILY end up in last before it's all said and done. Todays 14 inning loss was just a killer. On the brightside, John Patterson is turning out to be something VERY special, and the rest if the staff is pretty god too. We just need some hitting (and someone to kidnap Guzman and remind him how to friggin hit!) Still, it doesn't really matter, This year it's just good enough to have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 My crystal ball tells me Scott Gragg gets inked to signed to play tackle the day after the first preseason game, and Ty Law to play corner after the 3rd. And that Abraham will limp back into camp for the tender offer money around August 20th.Oh, the misrey of playing for a meager $6.7 million-we must hold a kegger racket to defray his expenses. Sorry-I don't think Adrian Jones is going to cut it. Playing as green a guy in front of an aged RB and a fragile QB is crazy. I'd love to be wrong. Martin will have a productive year combined with a solid effort from Blaylock, but nothing close to 1600 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 25, 2005 Author Share Posted July 25, 2005 When Adrian "Turnstile" Jones is your unquestioned starter at O-Tackle, without a game of regular season experience and after looking for all the world like a human highway for D-Linemen, you know you have troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 another nice flame by Tx, you spend way to much time looking for idiotic articles that make you feel smart...it doesn't work. I uncovered that last letter from your mom to you, it says it all: My Dearest Redneck Son, I'm writing this real slow, because I know you can't read fast. We don't live where we did when you left home. Your Dad read in the newspaper that most accidents happen within 20 miles of your home, so we moved. I won't be able to send you the address because the last Texas family that lived here took the house numbers when they moved so they wouldn't have to change their address. This place is really nice. It even has a washing machine. I'm not sure it works so well, though. Last week I put a load of clothes in and pulled the chain. We haven't seen them since. The weather isn't bad here. It only rained twice last week; the first time for three days, and the second time for four days. About that coat you wanted me to send; -- your Uncle Billy-Bob said it would be too heavy to send in the mail with the big buttons on, so we had to cut them off. You can find them in the pockets. Bubba locked his keys in the car yesterday. We were really worried because it took him two hours to get me and your Pa out. Your sister had a baby this morning, but I haven't found out what it is yet so I don't know if you are an aunt or uncle. It's the dangdest thing, but the baby looks just like your oldest brother. Uncle Bobby-Ray fell into a whiskey vat last week. Some men tried to pull him out, but he fought them off and drowned. We had him cremated; --- he burned for three days. Three of your friends went off a bridge in a pickup truck. Bubba was driving. He rolled down the window and swam to safety. Your other two friends, Cletus and Buford, were in the back They drowned because they couldn't get the tailgate down. There isn't much more news at this time. Nothing much out of the normal has happened. Your Favorite Aunt, Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Says Pennington: "If I could play with a torn rotator cuff, I certainly can play with a surgically repaired one." Barring a serious setback, Chad will start the opener. I'm not concerned about him not being able to throw on consecutive days six weeks before the season starts, we just need him to throw one day a week once it gets here. You can question how effective the man will be, but there's no question in my mind that the man will be in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Barring a serious setback, Chad will start the opener. I'm not concerned about him not being able to throw on consecutive days six weeks before the season starts, we just need him to throw one day a week once it gets here. You can question how effective the man will be, but there's no question in my mind that the man will be in there. Find wood. Knock on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I dont put a lot of faith in this article,,,HOWEVER,,,if its right there are NO EXCUSES for putting that surgery off 3 weeks for a damn fishing vacation,,the media should crucify him,,he can fish to his hearts content when he retires, but a 6 million a year he can get surgery asap and be ready to earn that damn money,,,the few years we have him and PAY for him he can priortize the season opener over fishing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 There isn't much more news at this time. Nothing much out of the normal has happened. Your Favorite Aunt, Mom that's pretty funny - nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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