Bugg Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 As per Brandon Tierney on ESPN, Abraham will sign the tender offer if the Jets agree not to trade him this year and also agree not to franchise him in 2006.In light the jets being a win now team, I'd be shocked if the jets don't sucumb to this. And really, Abraham is in for a rude awakening on th FA market unless he plays hard for the full schedule.2006 will take care of itself, and by then the Fins and Bills will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 As per Brandon Tierney on ESPN, Abraham will sign the tender offer if the Jets agree not to trade him this year and also agree not to franchise him in 2006.In light the jets being a win now team, I'd be shocked if the jets don't sucumb to this. And really, Abraham is in for a rude awakening on th FA market unless he plays hard for the full schedule.2006 will take care of itself, and by then the Fins and Bills will be better. Hmmm. Good tidbit, Bugg. The Jets will have to take that deal and hope for the best. Like you said, if Abe turns bitch halfway through the year and decides to sit out again, no one is going to pay him. I hope he's saving his money. How much does a fifth of Wild Turkey and a new telephone pole cost anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Think that we plan on using an $8M franchise tag on Abe next year (20% increase over this year's $6.7M)? If he plays 16 games they'll want to lock him up; if he doesn't they shouldn't want to spend $8M on him for one year. Then again, just because there were no takers this year to get a 1st-rounder or more for Abe's rights doesn't mean there won't be one next year. But it would set a dangerous precedent league-wide, where agents would want to put language in every high-profile player's contract that they won't be franchised at the end of the contract. Or that anyone signing a franchise contract would want it in writing that it's a one-shot deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 get him in now for the 1 year and sign Law.. The jets are loaded and ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 Don't think the Jets can really worry about 2006 right now. Figure the Pats regroup form Weis and Crennel leaving; Lohsman has a year under his belt and Saban gets the Fins house in order-all in 2006.Get the best squad on the field in 2005 and go for it. As big a toolbag as he may be, Abraham is talented. he might even be better on what amounts to a 1-year make good contract. As Bob pointed out a few days ago, cannot imagine what a lazy POS Abraham would be if he did get long-term max money. Yes, it's a dangerous precedent. But Abraham either performs up to a stellar contract and the Jets rewards him or someone else does so, and they apply the cap savings to replace him or to other spots in their 2006 roster, or he sheets the bed again in which case no team including the jets is giving Abraham $ 8 million for 2006. And I doubt any team is ever giving this guy a max long-term deal with the way he's treated Edwards and the Jets anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Don't think the Jets can really worry about 2006 right now. Figure the Pats regroup form Weis and Crennel leaving; Lohsman has a year under his belt and Saban gets the Fins hosue in order-all in 2006.Get the best squad on the field in 2005 and go for it. As big a toolbag as he may be, Abraham is talented. he might even be better on what amounts to a 1-year make good contract. Yes, it's a dangerous precedent. But Abraham either performs up to a stellar contract and the Jets rewards him or someone else does so, and they apply the cap savings to replace him or to other spots in their 2006 roster, or he sheets the bed again in which case no team including the jets is giving Abraham $ 8 million for 2006. And I doubt any team is ever giving this guy a max long-term deal with the way he's treated Edwards and the Jets anyway. Except maybe the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 Is that really a franchise or just some NFL-sponsored alternative to "Playmakers"? Can imagine most Skin practices begin with the players pushing themselves away fomt the breakfast tables in their easy chairs and being asked politely byt the staff to hang up on their brokers. You mean we actaully have to play?Can we just hit the links instead? It's too hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 As much as I would not trust a long term deal with abe- I guarantee some team will ante up when and if the time comes- playmakers and pass rushers are at a premium in the league. When they actually play that is I might add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 As per Brandon Tierney on ESPN, Abraham will sign the tender offer if the Jets agree not to trade him this year and also agree not to franchise him in 2006.In light the jets being a win now team, I'd be shocked if the jets don't sucumb to this. And really, Abraham is in for a rude awakening on th FA market unless he plays hard for the full schedule.2006 will take care of itself, and by then the Fins and Bills will be better. Isn't that the exact same deal Shaun Alexander got with the Seahawks? This would be absolutely stupid on the Jets part to tie their hands with regards to all their options with Abe. Because it's so stupid, the Jets will probably agree to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 you're right faba, fo is still holding all the cards & should not cave to any tag lifting. let him show up for 16 games + playoffs before giving him a farging thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I like this better, but not 100% liken it. If Abraham has a great season and stays healthy in 2006 we can just sign him to a long term deal. But what if he misses a few more games. We would have to franchise him again, IMO, you dont just let him walk out the door. Abraham can shove it. Sign the tender, but if the Jets want to franchise you again, I guess your poor stupid drunk ass will just have to live with a 7 million dollar paycheck. Poor Poor Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat21 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 This would be absolutely stupid on the Jets part to tie their hands with regards to all their options with Abe. I agree. Bradway don't give Abe anything extra. He should be happy he is getting $6.7M and just shut up. Why would we give up the right to trade him? At $8M next year they probably won't franchise him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Bradway's a fool if he agree's to those demands. Abe and his agent are desperate; he has zero leverage, and Bradway has him over a barrell. Let him forfeit his $6.7 million. Yeah, riiiiiiight. He'll play this year. POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Bradway's a fool if he agree's to those demands. Abe and his agent are desperate; he has zero leverage, and Bradway has him over a barrell. Let him forfeit his $6.7 million. Yeah, riiiiiiight. He'll play this year. POS. You nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 You nailed it. Damn straight. Give him nothing! Starve him out! F-him until he calls you his favorite uncle Jimmy and promises to never, ever tell because he knows that if he did, uncle Jimmy would take him far away and he'd never get to see his parents again!!! Hoooo. Deep breath. Sorry. The flashbacks are a bitch. What was I saying? Ah yes. Abe...You Stole fizzy-lifting drinks. You then bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed, and sterilized, so you get...Nothing!!! Good day sir! I Said Good Day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Who cares if we agree? If he stays healthy and plays well, then we re-sign him I mean we certainly can't continue to franchise him. That'd end up costing us more in the long run. If he doesn't stay healthy and can't stay on the field, well then adios. It really didn't minimize our options much at all. In fact it just continues in the line of what we'd be doing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Who cares if we agree? If he stays healthy and plays well, then we re-sign him I mean we certainly can't continue to franchise him. That'd end up costing us more in the long run. If he doesn't stay healthy and can't stay on the field, well then adios. It really didn't minimize our options much at all. In fact it just continues in the line of what we'd be doing anyway. I SAID GOOD DAY! BTW, "continue" to franchise him? Dude, we have yet to frachise him. Let me guess, you sucked at Monopoly, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 This would be absolutely stupid on the Jets part to tie their hands with regards to all their options with Abe. Because it's so stupid, the Jets will probably agree to do it. couldn't agree more. Why let abe call the shots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 I SAID GOOD DAY! BTW, "continue" to franchise him? Dude, we have yet to frachise him. Let me guess, you sucked at Monopoly, right? On the contrary, I was awesome at Monopoly. Although I'd always cheat by putting extra money underneath the board on my side. I was the Bill Belichick of Monopoly you could say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 couldn't agree more. Why let abe call the shots? Couldn't help but notice where you got that image in your signature from. Where have you been traveling to? INQUISTION!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Couldn't help but notice where you got that image in your signature from. Where have you been traveling to? INQUISTION!! somebody Pm'd it to me....but thanks for asking...Ive been banned over @ JI for being so damn sexy...You like the pic? nice huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 LOL I was just gonna ask smizzy where he got that pic from! :wink: Justin Miller is fricking ripped for a cornerback. Hell, he's ripped for a safety. Hell, he's just RIPPED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 maybe i should get permission to use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 maybe i should get permission to use it oh please. F*ck Dooshsayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 maybe i should get permission to use it Where'd it go? I was only busting chops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Where'd it go? I was only busting chops. My GOD!! Smizzy has been totally pussywhipped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 oh please. F*ck Dooshsayer From Maxman...don't want him getting in trouble for some pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 From Maxman...don't want him getting in trouble for some pic. No sh**. It was the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffneycatch Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 the point here is that if the Jets do indeed decide sometime during or after the season that they want to sign Abe longterm, they lose leverage bigtime if they don't still have the franchise tag hanging over his head. this would create a bidding war and the Jets would almost certainly lose him, or else overpay. they need to retain the tag option as leverage. bad deal. they have Abe over a barrel and don't need to give in to his demands. he's not going to leave 6.7M AND a chance to showcase himself on the table by not reporting before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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