nj meadowlands Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Jets | Law to Take His Physical Today? Sun, 7 Aug 2005 10:29:08 -0700 The New York Times reports free agent CB Ty Law (Patriots) is reportedly going to take his physical with the New York Jets Sunday, August 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Better hope your crack team doctor with his medical degree for the University of Tijuana checks out Law's foot and not his pinky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 Better hope your crack team doctor with his medical degree for the University of Tijuana checks out Law's foot and not his pinky. HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Wrong Tex - I believe his med degree is from the University of Guam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Ty really hurt you kids by leaving, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Better hope your crack team doctor with his medical degree for the University of Tijuana checks out Law's foot and not his pinky. Actually, that was pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets28 Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Ty really hurt you kids by leaving, didn't he?...I think they are at the most nostalgic for him... . How was the scrimmage Bob?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Ty really hurt you kids by leaving, didn't he? Yea, he played a vital role in last year's Super Bowl championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Yea, he played a vital role in last year's Super Bowl championship. He also was the real MVP of the Pats' first Super Bowl. And the Pats wouldn't have got past Indianapolis in 2003 if it weren't for Ty Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I couldn't resist; I word searched it: http://www.tij.cetys.mx/ Holy sht! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Ty really hurt you kids by leaving, didn't he? No, not really, but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. BTW - the Pats let him go...not ugly like the Milloy cut, thank God. I'm being perfectly honest here. I am not worried about the coaching staff, or lack of a real OC (if training camp is any indication, there will be an OC by commitee approach). I think the Offense will actually be better than it was last year. What I am worried about is the middle linebacker position. Only a die-hard Pats fan understands the true implications of losing Tedy Bruschi. He was the defensive signal caller in a very complex defense. He's natural instincts on the field are unmatched. His true grit and powerful leadership will be missed not only on the field, but in the lockerroom, team meetings and the film room. I have confidence that the D-line (all first rounders, I think) will ease the strain on the LB's up front. Still, the Pats will miss that "it" factor. Tedy was "it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 He also was the real MVP of the Pats' first Super Bowl. And the Pats wouldn't have got past Indianapolis in 2003 if it weren't for Ty Law. First, Law was 27 and in the prime of his career when he played in the Super Bowl versus the Rams. Two, all 3 of Law's picks against Manning came from zone coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 He also was the real MVP of the Pats' first Super Bowl. And the Pats wouldn't have got past Indianapolis in 2003 if it weren't for Ty Law. Actually, if you REALLY watch the first SB, the MVP was Otis Smith - yup, Otis Smith. I agree that Ty Law had a monster game against Indy that year and if it weren't for him, the Pats may not have made it to the SB. Still, Peyton threw some God awful passes and the defensive game plan (all the diguises) were genius. So, I present this: If it weren't for BB/Crennel and Mangini - the Pats would not have made it past Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 No, not really, but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. BTW - the Pats let him go...not ugly like the Milloy cut, thank God. I'm being perfectly honest here. I am not worried about the coaching staff, or lack of a real OC (if training camp is any indication, there will be an OC by commitee approach). I think the Offense will actually be better than it was last year. What I am worried about is the middle linebacker position. Only a die-hard Pats fan understands the true implications of losing Tedy Bruschi. He was the defensive signal caller in a very complex defense. He's natural instincts on the field are unmatched. His true grit and powerful leadership will be missed not only on the field, but in the lockerroom, team meetings and the film room. I have confidence that the D-line (all first rounders, I think) will ease the strain on the LB's up front. Still, the Pats will miss that "it" factor. Tedy was "it." Garb, it's gotta end sooner or later. 2005 just might be the beginning of the downward spiral for what Stephen A. Smith refers to as The Patriots Dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 First, Law was 27 and in the prime of his career when he played in the Super Bowl versus the Rams. Two, all 3 of Law's picks against Manning came from zone coverage. Too much. Bob and Troll, you nailed it. No further proof needed after reading Tx response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 How was the scrimmage Bob?... Not the same without YOU, sweetie, but we had fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Of course it will end eventually, Moses. All good things do. The NFL is cyclical by nature - especially in this era of salary caps and free agency. I will ALWAYS be grateful for this terrific ride provided to me by my beloved Patriots. I'm so blessed to have seen the worst - and then the BEST, for a relatively long time. Hard to even recall those pathetic years. Seems so long ago, you know? BTW - That moron, Steven A. Smith isn't the only one calling the Pats a current day dynasty. An objective person would have a hard time arguing otherwise. What other team has a better record in this decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 It just amazes me how all of a sudden Pats fans think Law is now a POS and actually wasn't realyy that good to begin with. That is some funny stuff and was predicted quite accurately by a number of JN members. It just goes to show you how predictable the weather vane posts of the Pats faithful are. It's like arguing a point with an ultra-liberal or a religious fanatic, they have an answer for everything using their special brand of twisted logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 DNA - I hope you aren't talking about me. I've said all along that the Jets would better WITH Ty Law. He's a terrific CB. His savvy, experience, talent and veteran leadership will do wonders for that defensive backfield. Plus - and this is just my opinion, the Jets have to have a top five defense (I think they will) to off-set the step back your offense will take this year. I just have a feeling that points won't be too easy to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 It just amazes me how all of a sudden Pats fans think Law is now a POS. What Pats fan has said that Law is a POS? I've said from day one, whatever teams gets him will be getting a top 3 CB who still has 2 or 3 good years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Sorry for the omission Garb, you certainly have been consistent, unlike Tx and Seymour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Sorry for the omission Garb, you certainly have been consistent, unlike Tx and Seymour. Show me a post where I said Law is a POS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Show me a post where I said Law is a POS? Tx, not in those exact words, but even in this thread you mention how his picks against Indy were in zone coverage, like that makes it much less of an accomplishment. The Jet used to play a lot of zone under Fat Ted and got picked apart. You are minimizing a relatively recent performance, making it seem as if it was the scheme. Players still have to execute, as Law did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I couldn't resist; I word searched it: http://www.tij.cetys.mx/ Holy sht! HAHA. Remember when there was that doctor who worked for the MLB that said he got a degree from U Stony Brook, but actually got it from the University of Guadalajara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Tx, not in those exact words, but even in this thread you mention how his picks against Indy were in zone coverage, like that makes it much less of an accomplishment. The Jet used to play a lot of zone under Fat Ted and got picked apart. You are minimizing a relatively recent performance, making it seem as if it was the scheme. Players still have to execute, as Law did. DNA, my point about Law's 3 picks were they were all made when the Pats were in a zone defense. Two out of the three were incredible, athletic plays by Law. But the bottom line was Ty Law was not matched up in 1-1 press coverage. Law's fortay comes from great anticipation and athletic ability, which a zone defense allows. Law is vulnerable when in 1-1 coverage, more so this year with the bad wheel. Be very curious to see Hendu's coverages with Law in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 DNA, my point about Law's 3 picks were they were all made when the Pats were in a zone defense. Two out of the three were incredible, athletic plays by Law. But the bottom line was Ty Law was not matched up in 1-1 press coverage. Law's fortay comes from great anticipation and athletic ability, which a zone defense allows. Law is vulnerable when in 1-1 coverage, more so this year with the bad wheel. Be very curious to see Hendu's coverages with Law in the secondary. wow, so because Ty Law's 3 ints vs Manning were all in zone defense it means he cant play man to man/bump and run/press coverage? I dont think so bub. I've seen Ty Law go man-to-man/press coverage all the time. Even against speedster Santana Moss, Ty Law play up at the line and jammed him up and took him outa the game. IMO, there is not a more phsyical corner in the national football league. Charles Woodson, Chris McAlister are all strong and can play at the line, but neither are as good as it as Ty Law. And we all know Ty Laws ability to read the pass and jump the route are the best in the league at his position. Not to mention he has GREAT hands for the interception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I've seen Ty Law go man-to-man/press coverage all the time. Even against speedster Santana Moss, Ty Law play up at the line and jammed him up and took him outa the game. All the time, huh barton? Seeing that Crennel and the Pats played zone coverage 80%-85% of the time (and almost exclusively on passing downs), where have you seen Law playing 1-1 press coverage? What else will you be making up today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 All the time, huh barton? Seeing that Crennel and the Pats played zone coverage 80%-85% of the time (and almost exclusively on passing downs), where have you seen Law playing 1-1 press coverage? What else will you be making up today? During the Carroll Error when Ty went to only one Probowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I'm not saying that this signing is the end all be all for the Jets defense. The Jets will still need to keep Abe on the field for all 16 games and the playoffs, and they need last years youngsters to continue to develope. But to act like Ty Law was not effective in man on man coverage is not fair. If he can get back to what he was before the injury he will again be one of the best in the game. And the Pete Carroll era simply could not get a pass rush together. Which is why I say it will take more than just Ty Law to get the Jets to the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 All the time, huh barton? Seeing that Crennel and the Pats played zone coverage 80%-85% of the time (and almost exclusively on passing downs), where have you seen Law playing 1-1 press coverage? What else will you be making up today? Crayon or Marker? Ty Law played bump and run and press coverage more than just a few times. Sure, for the most part it was in zone, but i've seen him press up and jam the WR at the line way too many times to think that he doesnt do it. Did he play more zone than man-to-man? Sure, but that doesnt mean they were covering him up. He jams the WR at the line better than any cornerback in the NFL. And while he was never the fastest player in the NFL he could go step for step with most recievers because he was always taking the right angles and had perfect execution of press coverage. Either way you slice it, Ty Law finally gives us that great secondary player we've been searching for, maybe the final piece to the puzzle. We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Are the New York Jets a better team in 2005 with Ty Law?? Yes. That fact is simply not debatable. Everything else involved (money, years, risk of potential injury) is administrative details to be worried about later on. While I have some severe reservation about later, I am happy the 2005 Jets will be a better team than they would have before. IMO CB was a severe weakness (along with OT) for 2005, and I believe even a 85-90% Ty Law addresses that weakness for the short term (1 to 2 seasons), and certainly long enough to determine if Miller can be a legit #1 (or #2) and if Strait can be a legit #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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