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Who is going to win the AFC East? Please tell me oh enlightened one.

Pick up some national media football magazines and you will find out who they ALL say will win the AFCE.

The only people picking the Jets are delusional Jet fans on this message board. :shock:

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Who is going to win the AFC East? Please tell me oh enlightened one.

Seriously, being a month away from real games and despite all the losses the Patriots suffered, is it enough to close the gap? No.

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Pick up some national media football magazines and you will find out who they ALL say will win the AFCE.

The only people picking the Jets are delusional Jet fans on this message board. :shock:

The same national magazines who said we wouldn't smell the playoffs last year and might finish in last place?

Tx, for your own well-being, if you're trying to make an argument, the last source you should use is "national magazines."

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Pick up some national media football magazines and you will find out who they ALL say will win the AFCE.

The only people picking the Jets are delusional Jet fans on this message board. :shock:

The Jets were a few inches from the Championship game. They have improved on:

Offense

Defense

Special Teams

Coaching Staff

The Patriots were a great team. They have gotten worse on Offense and Defense.

But the fans here are whack for thinking the Jets have a chance at the Superbowl. Oh, okay.

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I just find Jets fans delusional and arrogant - temper the enthusiasm guys, really. It's sort of silly. The season starts in a month. My God, it's like listening to crack addicts that live in an abandoned building in the Bronx who tell folks they actually live in the Trump Towers and work as the president of some hedge fund. :roll:

Max,

The Pats have actually gotten better offensively. Seriously. I know you think Weiss' loss is big blow - it won't be. You'll see. Corey Dillon will be better than last year. The plethora of recievers the Pats have in camp - and the competition it begets - will only make the recievers we retain even better.

The Pats defense has taken a step back. The step's name is Tedy Bruschi.

ST - well, BB has certainly made a point of improving this unit in the off-season. We shall see if it translates onto the field.

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The Jets were a few inches from the Championship game. They have improved on:

Offense

Defense

Special Teams

Coaching Staff

The Patriots were a great team. They have gotten worse on Offense and Defense.

But the fans here are whack for thinking the Jets have a chance at the Superbowl. Oh, okay.

Correct Max, all fans will speak positively about their teams chances during the off-season.

That's a huge part of sports and will not change simply because 4 or 5 PATS fans are compelled to live on not one, but two Jets boards pulling the same ole tired responses from their archives.

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I just find Jets fans delusional and arrogant - temper the enthusiasm guys, really. It's sort of silly. The season starts in a month. My God, it's like listening to crack addicts that live in an abandoned building in the Bronx who tell folks they actually live in the Trump Towers and work as the president of some hedge fund. :roll:

There is always the Pats board as a option.

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I just find Jets fans delusional and arrogant - temper the enthusiasm guys, really. It's sort of silly. The season starts in a month. My God, it's like listening to crack addicts that live in an abandoned building in the Bronx who tell folks they actually live in the Trump Towers and work as the president of some hedge fund. :roll:

Complaining about Pro-Jets posts on a Jets site. Doesn't get much better than that.

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Complaining about Pro-Jets posts on a Jets site. Doesn't get much better than that.

Hey, I'm just trying to help you guys - softens the blow when, or if, it comes...

Anyway, go ahead, be snippy Max. It's what you do best. What's next? Calling me a flunky?

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The JETS defense is much improved, but a Super Bowl defense? I dont think so. I'll beleive it when I see it, and last year......I didn't see it.

If Law and # 94 are suited up in week one we could be very impressive. Right now, the "D" has too many question marks on top of the fact that they were over rated(improved, but overrated) last year to write anything in stone.

Talk to me in WEEK 4.

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So does it mean they don't have the right to bash Jets fans for thinking that? :roll:

What are you a closet patriots fan? take a hike

I'm sick of these dbags trying to always bring us down when we're happy about our team and have high aspirations for the season. Thats what being a fan is all about. F these stupid patsy fans.

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What are you a closet patriots fan? take a hike

I'm sick of these dbags trying to always bring us down when we're happy about our team and have high aspirations for the season. Thats what being a fan is all about. F these stupid patsy fans.

What I find interesting is that most of you are Yankees fans - which should mean you know how to act like a fan of a championship caliber team. I said should.

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I just find Jets fans delusional and arrogant - temper the enthusiasm guys, really.

Garb, can you believe these Jet fans? :shock:

Here it is August 8th during another offseason and they are acting far more giddy then Pats fans were acting on the morning of February 7th.

Guess that's what 36 years of suckiness does for you.

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What are you a closet patriots fan? take a hike

I'm sick of these dbags trying to always bring us down when we're happy about our team and have high aspirations for the season. Thats what being a fan is all about. F these stupid patsy fans.

My point is that, people will always be there to oppose your viewpoint, and they have that right. Therefore, either deal with it, ignore it, or fight back. The Patriots fans on this board probably will not be going away any time soon.

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The Jets were a few inches from the Championship game. They have improved on:

Offense

Defense

Special Teams

Coaching Staff

The Patriots were a great team. They have gotten worse on Offense and Defense.

But the fans here are whack for thinking the Jets have a chance at the Superbowl. Oh, okay.

:shock:

Offense - You got a better OC that has a game plan that is predicated on deep passes. Even under the best conditions, Chad is not suited to a deep passing attack. Now he is recovering from surgery on his shoulder.

Defense - Who has replaced Ferguson? There are potential replacements there, but no one you can say without a shadow of a doubt is able to replace him yet. You can sign Ty, Deoin and Ronnie Lott, but if your Run D returns to 2003 form, it will not matter.

Special Teams - Again, Nugent is potentially your kicker for the next 10-15 years, but he still has not kicked yet and there are alot of examples in the past of kickers, high draft picks, that were busts or average at best.

Jets are a good team, no doubt. However, they were also a few inches from being bounced in the wildcard round as another drafted rookie kicker shanked a makeable FG. Plus, the Jets have yet to prroven they can beat the teams that will be there in the end.

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Offense - You got a better OC that has a game plan that is predicated on deep passes. Even under the best conditions, Chad is not suited to a deep passing attack. Now he is recovering from surgery on his shoulder.

PFSIKH, and what happens if Mawae, Fabini or Kendell goes down with an injury?

Gotta love that incredible depth that the Jets have on the OLine. :^o

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Hey, I'm just trying to help you guys - softens the blow when, or if, it comes...

Anyway, go ahead, be snippy Max. It's what you do best. What's next? Calling me a flunky?

No No No. Tx is the Flunkie. You are the ring leader.

Get it straight!!!

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Here is the bottom line on the 2005 Jets

1) Chad: How well he adapts to the new system and is the should healthy

2) J.Abe: Needs to get into camp ASAP !!!! No Abraham no Ferguson means no playoffs. Hate him all you want but if the Jets are to seriously make a Super Bowl run he NEEDS to be there.

3) #1 and #2 must stay healthy for 16 games.

You hate putting it all on two guys but in the Jets case it's the truth. If 1,2 and 3 work out for the Jets I expect them to be playing in late January and possibly very early Feburary.

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I just find Jets fans delusional and arrogant - temper the enthusiasm guys, really. It's sort of silly. The season starts in a month. My God, it's like listening to crack addicts that live in an abandoned building in the Bronx who tell folks they actually live in the Trump Towers and work as the president of some hedge fund. :roll:

Max,

The Pats have actually gotten better offensively. Seriously. I know you think Weiss' loss is big blow - it won't be. You'll see. Corey Dillon will be better than last year. The plethora of recievers the Pats have in camp - and the competition it begets - will only make the recievers we retain even better.

The Pats defense has taken a step back. The step's name is Tedy Bruschi.

ST - well, BB has certainly made a point of improving this unit in the off-season. We shall see if it translates onto the field.

You find JETS fans arrogant? :shock:

Wow Garb. Most of the time your posting is good, but this one is just retarded.

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What I find interesting is that most of you are Yankees fans - which should mean you know how to act like a fan of a championship caliber team. I said should.

You're just as arrogant as you claim us Yankee fans to be, so cool your Jets. stupid

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We faced that problem last season along with our QB being out.

Can the Pats or any team say the same?

Good point.

The Patriots have shown the ability over the past two seasons to overcome injuries (outside of Brady). That is another thing altogether. Considering over the last two years, Richard Seymour, Ty Law, Mike Vrabel, Troy Brown, Tyronne Poole, Ted Washington, Deoin Branch, and David Patten have all missed significant time to injuries and the Patriots are 34-4. There is a reason the Patriots spread the wealth as much as possible.

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PFSIKH, and what happens if Mawae, Fabini or Kendell goes down with an injury?

Gotta love that incredible depth that the Jets have on the OLine. :^o

You're absolutely right, Tx. The OL is really what could make or break this team. I actually have more concerns about the OL than I do of Pennington, because at least we have a capable backup in Fiedler.

However, we have NO depth behind Fabini, Adrian Jones, and Kevin Mawae. Jonathan Goodwin can fill in at G if Kendall gets hurt, though not nearly enough to make that gaping hole look filled.

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You're absolutely right, Tx. The OL is really what could make or break this team. I actually have more concerns about the OL than I do of Pennington, because at least we have a capable backup in Fiedler.

However, we have NO depth behind Fabini, Adrian Jones, and Kevin Mawae. Jonathan Goodwin can fill in at G if Kendall gets hurt, though not nearly enough to make that gaping hole look filled.

At 1 point last season were without both Pete Kendall and Jonathan Goodwin and we did not miss a beat.

Goodwin is so underrated, he has the skills to start. Mawae is a beast, he'll play with a broken leg if he had too. Ethan Brooks adds some veteran OT depth and Cavka has likely improved since last season adding more muscle. Ya know the patsy fans are reaching when they are talking about what ifs about our oline depth if our entire interior line goes down yada yada yada...

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