jales22 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Jets | Stadium Proposal Includes Ultimate NFL Showplace Matthew Futterman, of the Newark Star-Ledger, reports in the strongest signal yet that they are serious about making New Jersey their permanent home, the New York Jets are proposing the "ultimate NFL showplace" in the Meadowlands, including a 90,000-seat stadium that they would share with the New York Giants. The proposal, which the Jets submitted Wednesday, Aug. 10, to the Giants, calls for a massive football complex in East Rutherford that would be integrated with the Xanadu retail and entertainment center now under construction. Plans call for the two teams to privately finance the stadium, a price for which was not included. In addition, a hotel and conference center, a tailgating park and an interactive center that would combine the two teams' Halls of Fame with the NFL Experience would be built. Despite sputtering talks over the past two months, officials said Wednesday that the two sides now appear to be moving toward a partnership. "We have said all along a shared stadium ... makes the most sense, and this shows that the Jets are serious about working with the Giants and working with Xanadu to make this happen," said George Zoffinger, chief executive of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority, which operates the Meadowlands Sports Complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetme23 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 jets are making a mistake if they make nj a permanant home. F NJ. ITs called the NEW YORK jets not NEW FU CKIN JERSEY jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 jets are making a mistake if they make nj a permanant home. F NJ. ITs called the NEW YORK jets not NEW FU CKIN JERSEY jets. Great point. Now quick get them some land in NY and pour some footings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Jets | Stadium Proposal Includes Ultimate NFL Showplace Matthew Futterman, of the Newark Star-Ledger, reports in the strongest signal yet that they are serious about making New Jersey their permanent home, the New York Jets are proposing the "ultimate NFL showplace" in the Meadowlands, including a 90,000-seat stadium that they would share with the New York Giants. The proposal, which the Jets submitted Wednesday, Aug. 10, to the Giants, calls for a massive football complex in East Rutherford that would be integrated with the Xanadu retail and entertainment center now under construction. Plans call for the two teams to privately finance the stadium, a price for which was not included. In addition, a hotel and conference center, a tailgating park and an interactive center that would combine the two teams' Halls of Fame with the NFL Experience would be built. Despite sputtering talks over the past two months, officials said Wednesday that the two sides now appear to be moving toward a partnership. "We have said all along a shared stadium ... makes the most sense, and this shows that the Jets are serious about working with the Giants and working with Xanadu to make this happen," said George Zoffinger, chief executive of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority, which operates the Meadowlands Sports Complex. This is gonna be AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 A new Jets Stadium in New Jersey would be GREAT.... FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I'm anti-West Side Stadium all the way!!!...and I live on L.I. Build it in the Meadowlands and Tailgating is alive and well!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I'm anti-West Side Stadium all the way!!!...and I live on L.I. Build it in the Meadowlands and Tailgating is alive and well!!! Amen brotha! And barton, have fun trying to ''poop'' on our new state of the art facility from 3000 miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetme23 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 How about queens, You could still tailgate there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I bet I can get home(L.I.)in the same amount of time from the Meadowlands. My shorcut is GOLDEN !!! Someplace near Shea would be lunacy when the game got out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Amen brotha! And barton, have fun trying to ''poop'' on our new state of the art facility from 3000 miles away. Besides, If he's on the waiting list - he stands a better chance of getting tickets to a 90,000 seat facility! The Jets go long by asking Giants to share stadium 'NFL showplace' to seat 90,000 Thursday, August 11, 2005 BY MATTHEW FUTTERMAN Star-Ledger Staff In the strongest signal yet that they are serious about making New Jersey their permanent home, the Jets are proposing the "ultimate NFL showplace" in the Meadowlands, including a 90,000-seat stadium that they would share with the Giants. The proposal, which the Jets submitted yesterday to the Giants, calls for a massive football complex in East Rutherford that would be integrated with the Xanadu retail and entertainment center now under construction. Plans call for the two teams to privately finance the stadium, a price for which was not included. In addition, a hotel and conference center, a tailgating park and an interactive center that would combine the two teams' Halls of Fame with the NFL Experience would be built. The project should "create the ultimate NFL showplace in the nation's largest market through an unprecedented partnership between two teams in the same league...," according to the plan, a copy of which was obtained by The Star-Ledger. By submitting such a plan, the Jets are indicating they are serious about staying in New Jersey. Their proposal also launches a new chapter in the Giants' agreement with acting Gov. Richard Codey to build an $800 million, 80,000-seat stadium in the Meadowlands. Giants Stadium opened in 1976 and the two teams have played there since 1984. Since that agreement between the Giants and the state was reached last spring, the Jets' plans to move to a new stadium on Manhattan's West Side have collapsed. In addition, the Giants have said they would like to form a partnership with the Jets for a shared stadium in the Meadowlands to reduce their risk in the privately financed venture. Despite sputtering talks over the past two months, officials said yesterday the two sides now appear to be moving toward a partnership. "We have said all along a shared stadium ... makes the most sense, and this shows that the Jets are serious about working with the Giants and working with Xanadu to make this happen," said George Zoffinger, chief executive of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority, which operates the Meadowlands Sports Complex. John Mara, chief executive for the Giants, could not be reached for comment yesterday and Jets officials declined to comment directly on the plan. In a related development, the Jets received an invitation this week from New York City officials to discuss a move to Queens, where a new stadium would be built for them. In a statement, Matt Higgins, a team spokesman, said the Jets have accepted the invitation to meet later this month and are leaving all their options open. At the same time, however, Higgins indicated a new intensity in the talks with the Giants. "Negotiations with the state of New Jersey and the Giants over a proposed joint stadium have intensified," Higgins' statement said. "If negotiations proceed accordingly, all parties expect an agreement could be reached by Fall 2005." Under the Jets' proposal, the team would become a part of the Giants' deal with the state. That deal calls for the Giants to pay for construction of a new stadium and for the state to supply 75 acres of land and $30 million in infrastructure improvements. The Jets' plan calls for the two teams to operate the stadium without involvement from the sports authority and to keep all revenues from the building. The proposed 90,000-seat stadium, which would be the largest in the National Football League, would be built between the current facility and the Meadowlands Racetrack, as the Giants have proposed. However, that's where similarities with the Giants' plan end. The stadium the Jets are proposing is 10,000 seats larger. Instead of putting the Giants training facility next to the new stadium on property that would be more desirable for commercial activity, the Jets propose constructing it on the northern side of the racetrack on Paterson Plank Road. The Jets also want to divide the parking and fan gathering areas into an "urban zone" centered around a new rail station that would be built near the stadium, and a "suburban zone" where much of the outdoor parking and tailgating would occur. The urban zone would include retail stores, restaurants and bars; the suburban zone would include food and beverage stands, according to the proposal. While a shared stadium now appears to be the goal of both teams, the two sides have a long way to go before they can begin construction. They need to form a joint corporation to manage the facility and agree on the design of the stadium itself. The Giants also remain skeptical of the Xanadu project, fearing that the massive retail and entertainment center will worsen traffic problems on game days. For their part, the Jets favor the new energy Xanadu is expected to bring to the sports complex. Zoffinger has said the state would like to put a retractable roof on a new stadium so it could accommodate a Super Bowl and perhaps the NCAA Final Four college basketball tournament. While the state might be willing to pay for a roof, it would likely want to share in the profits or have the right to schedule other events, such as concerts and international soccer games, in the building. The football teams, however, remain intent on managing the building privately and would likely want to live without the roof instead of allowing the state to take a share of the profits. Under the proposal, the Jets also would move their training facilities and headquarters from Hofstra University on Long Island to New Jersey to a site the state would provide. That would allow the state to collect significantly more income taxes from the organization's $100 million payroll. Both plans call for the Giants to relocate their training facilities from Albany, N.Y., to the Meadowlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthCoastJetsFan Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I'm anti-West Side Stadium all the way!!!...and I live on L.I. Build it in the Meadowlands and Tailgating is alive and well!!! If tailgating is that important to you, go have a picnic in a park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 If tailgating is that important to you, go have a picnic in a park. What a dick. IMO, tailgating is a big part of what makes an NFL game experience unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I will hate Woody if he builds a new stadium and we share with the giants. WTF Get our own damn stadium for christ sake! Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I will hate Woody if he builds a new stadium and we share with the giants. WTF Get our own damn stadium for christ sake! Pathetic. Hey do me a favor and come to some games real quick Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Hey do me a favor and come to some games real quick Thanks Its kind of hard to all the way from Florida. But when I get older I'll be moving back to NY, maybe even for colleges. Bottom Line Every other franchise has their own damn stadium. We're superbowl contenders, and have been in the league for a very long time. And its been a long time since we had our own stadium. F THE GIANTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetme23 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 How can any jet fan even consider a shared stadium? Were is the pride in having youre own shared stadium? yay for sharing! **** that, Jets build in Long island for all I care, just keep it in new york. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 F*CK a shared stadium hell, I'd be happier with the Jets having their own stadium in NJ then sharing with those fools. FIRE JAY CROSS IMMEDIATELY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 The reality is this is the best they can do, 11,000 more fans can go, tailgating stays(which newsflash for you Shea area enthusiasts-you cannot have an open container of alcohol in NYC-try it at a Mets game and enjoy your $125 summons)and Woody still makes out on the deal. The West Side is dead. Live with it. Deal with it. Stop the whining. It's a waste for taxpayers in this area to finance 2 stadiums that had the West Side gone down would have been 8 miles apart when both teams can work with just one. When this team is going good, cannot say for even a second that I gave a flying f___ that the stadium was in New Jersey. It's just outside the Lincoln Tunnel. BFD it's not in New York. They're not moving to Cali-it's NJ. And why is it that the people who admittedly don't go to games are the most up in arms about not being in NYC? The douchebag NYC politicians made it clear they don't want it. Woody's made the best of it. So should you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Its kind of hard to all the way from Florida. But when I get older I'll be moving back to NY, maybe even for colleges. Bottom Line Every other franchise has their own damn stadium. We're superbowl contenders, and have been in the league for a very long time. And its been a long time since we had our own stadium. F THE GIANTS I too thought the way you anti-share stadium folk do as I am NY all the way - being born in brooklyn and a lifelong Jets fan I would like nothing moe than to have them in the 5 boroughs. But, I've recently seen, in person, the model for a shared stadium and it is absolutely beautiful and makes total financial sense. The exterior of the stadium changes color depending on which team is using the stadium. And remember, land is finite . . .especially in NYC and I really am starting to believe that it would be shared and not rented by gang green. I still wish it could be in NYC though. Check it out for yourselves, it's really cool and even better in person: www.allianz-arena.de http://www.germany-tourism.co.uk/pages/sport_football_1437.htm "The brand new 66,000 seater stadium (the Alliance Arena) will become the home of both Munich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I'm not against having it in Jersey (but I would prefer NY because...well.....WE ARE...THE NEW YORK JETS) But I just am sick of sharing a stadium with another team. Pathetic franchises dont have their own stadiums, jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Alright, I hate to get all PETA tree-huggy. But reality dictates that a shared stadium makes more sense than building two stadiums within a half an hour of each other. That's just obnoxious and gluttonous. How much sh*t needs to get paved-over, how many houses have to get demolished, how many highways have to get re-routed for a football game, before somebody wakes up and says, "Wow, this is rediculous. These teams share a fanbase geographically, they market their merchandise to the exact same demographic, they can both have one insanely huge 90,000 seat stadium in which to play, without ever having to see one another physically. Why the **** would we even want to build two stadiums?" Answer: well everybody else has their own stadium! News flash: No other pair of teams share the most densely populated portion of the country. An area containing real-estate that ranks annually as one of the highest priced markets in the U.S. For anyone who's ever attended a Jets game at Giants Stadium, you know that once the car is parked in the lot, the stadium has absolutely nothing to do with the Giants. Why build two new stadiums, each with a different corporate title, instead of one, with a single corporate title, (What, you didn't actually think they'd name it "Jets Stadium", did you?), that can actually accomodate another 20,000 fans (many of whom are sitting on the waitlist as I am). Common sense. Build a stadium, share it, invite more fans. Ignore the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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