PETROCK Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 This is for future bumping/"I told you so" purposes. I'm going on record and saying he has accomplished nothing yet and needs to earn any respect. I'm not sold on him being the right choice. Exactly. He hasn't proven anything. I still don't understand why people wouldn't want a proven winner over an untapped coach for their teams HC. Doesn't make sense to me. For all we know he could be as bad a HC as Kotite. Would rather have gone after Gruden Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaJetFan Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I think this is a great move and we got the right guy. He seems hungry to be a head coach. I'M ALL IN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETROCK Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I think this is a great move and we got the right guy. He seems hungry to be a head coach. I'M ALL IN! I'm sure Kotite was hungry to be a HC. I'm sure Mangini was hungry to be a HC. I'm sure Edwards was hungry to be a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm sure Kotite was hungry to be a HC. I'm sure Mangini was hungry to be a HC. I'm sure Edwards was hungry to be a HC. Mangini was hungry... for pizza,.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm for the Ryan hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 GO REX! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed3 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I love the idea of a Rex Ryan lead Jets team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETROCK Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Mangini was hungry... for pizza,.... I'm thinking he's gonna hate Cleveland then. Not too sure how good their pizza is. He may actually focus on coaching instead of pizzas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I am totally in favor. No old tired retreads, a guy that is aggressive, creative and really wants to be here. I've heard nothing but good things about this guy. Will he succeed, who knows? We shoud all be rooting like hell for him to become a HOF coach though. Wow. Sounds just like Eric Mangini three years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I think he is as good of a candidate that is out there right now. His dad was tied for the best DC I've ever seen with BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Let the Epic Fail Era begin. Begin? When does it end? I'm "cautiously optimistic". I understand the guy is unproven and I have been on record as saying that being a good/great DC doesn't even guarantee you a competent D, but I actually like the Ryans. That's something new for me in a Jets coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I don't care. Does it ever matter at this point. The Jets would go 8-8 with the all star team and chuck noll coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 He was in my top 3 of who I wanted to get. I'll give him 3 years before I turn on him or label him a good coach just like all the others. I have as always hope that something good comes out of this and it will be fun to sit down and watch the Jets play football into January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Begin? When does it end? I'm "cautiously optimistic". I understand the guy is unproven and I have been on record as saying that being a good/great DC doesn't even guarantee you a competent D, but I actually like the Ryans. That's something new for me in a Jets coach. Exactly. I like that he and his brother and dad have always run tough defenses that try to dictate the game rather tahn read and react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Exactly. I like that he and his brother and dad have always run tough defenses that try to dictate the game rather tahn read and react. We have Bingo !!!! The biggest challenge Ryan is going to have in my opinion is just changing the image of the Jets. Since Parcells and Groh left the Jets (in my eyes at least) have been a team that relies more on tricking you then going out there then just flat out punching you in the mouth. Now granted it may take some time to get some guys to replace dogs like Bryan Thomas, but the defense should be alot better with Ryan in place. Hopefully he builds a team that is defense heavy and has an offense that won't turn the ball over on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Wow. Sounds just like Eric Mangini three years ago. Who was calling Mangini aggressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Chowds Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 We have Bingo !!!! The biggest challenge Ryan is going to have in my opinion is just changing the image of the Jets. Since Parcells and Groh left the Jets (in my eyes at least) have been a team that relies more on tricking you then going out there then just flat out punching you in the mouth. Now granted it may take some time to get some guys to replace dogs like Bryan Thomas, but the defense should be alot better with Ryan in place. Hopefully he builds a team that is defense heavy and has an offense that won't turn the ball over on a regular basis. Excellent post. I cant wait to see the Jets in a one Gap 3-4. I live to see Sunday's where we impose our will on a team with our defense! I Think Kerry Rhoads has real ball skills he is not Ed Reid (who is) but you will see him but put in a position where he can use them. Not just playing center field. This year we will see why we spent the money on Pace my gut say he will have a pro bowl year. And I finally think we are going to get to see why we got Vernon. When he does not have to "read & React" and we can just unleash him. We will see pre snap movement. and creative blitz schemes. It the nature of the one gap you have no idea where the pressure is coming from so finally we see us hit a QB in the mouth. 100% on board with Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Huge fan of this move. I have much more faith in Ryan than either Hermy and Mangini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Wow. Sounds just like Eric Mangini three years ago. The difference here is that we were happy to get rid of Herm and fell in love with the whole idea of the Belichick tree. We were sold a false bill of goods because if we really looked at it, Mangini had only one year of DC experience. Ryan has 4 straight years of leading a top 10 D, which is not bad to have on your resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Huge fan of this move. I have much more faith in Ryan than either Hermy and Mangini. As you should. He has accomplished something. Edwards and Mangini did NOTHING before they were hired as HCs. It is insane to compare Ryan to Edwards/Mangini. Now, if people want to believe it was all Balt's talent, and Ryan had little to do with it. Fine. Let's see if the Ravens have the #2 defense next year without him. If people want to say being a great DC does not automatically equate into becoming a great HC, they are right. But he has a lot more of a chance than the coffee getters did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 The difference here is that we were happy to get rid of Herm and fell in love with the whole idea of the Belichick tree. We were sold a false bill of goods because if we really looked at it, Mangini had only one year of DC experience. Ryan has 4 straight years of leading a top 10 D, which is not bad to have on your resume. And it wasn't a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 As you should. He has accomplished something. Edwards and Mangini did NOTHING before they were hired as HCs. It is insane to compare Ryan to Edwards/Mangini. Now, if people want to believe it was all Balt's talent, and Ryan had little to do with it. Fine. Let's see if the Ravens have the #2 defense next year without him. If people want to say being a great DC does not automatically equate into becoming a great HC, they are right. But he has a lot more of a chance than the coffee getters did. And it wasn't a good one. I've read it was really only half a season after Beli took away the headset from him for general ineptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Hopefully he brings the same attitude the Ravens had on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Begin? When does it end? I'm "cautiously optimistic". I understand the guy is unproven and I have been on record as saying that being a good/great DC doesn't even guarantee you a competent D, but I actually like the Ryans. That's something new for me in a Jets coach. GO REX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 That's the spirit, 124! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 football is kill or be killed...this is just what this team and fan base needs,lets wake the stadium up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 That's the spirit, 124! When you don't even call Bill Cowher, you've lost all my respect and optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 When you don't even call Bill Cowher, you've lost all my respect and optimism. LOL. I get ya. By the way, they did call Bill Cowher. People have grossly misinterpreted what Cowher said in the Boomer & Carton interview. Tannenbaum contacted Cowher's agent (which is standard NFL protocal--teams don't contact coaches or players directly). Cowher said he never spoke to Tannebaum, meaning he didn't speak to him directly. But his "people" talked to the Jets' "people." Regardless, this is ancient history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 For the first time since Groh (Hated that hiring as well) I am just waiting for the Fail, just like the short Groh Era was a Fail. We have been in the Fail Era, Dom. Rex Ryan will bring the EPIC Fail Era. I'm so tired of these people talking about his defense. Hey guess what everyone, he isn't going to be coaching the Defense anymore. He is the Head Coach now. Totally different ballgame. So you were more confident in Mangini? An underaged go-fer that never played, was a DC for one season and had the calls pulled by BB? Edwards? He wasn't even the DC. The only reason most of has a soft spot for him was the Miracle at Meadowlands. Al Groh was Bill Walsh compared to those two. I guess you are just talking silly so that you don't jinx it, but it's still silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 At this point it no longer matters what's done is done. THat being said I could reall care less who we got. If he brings the same intensity to our defence (and we do have most of the tools in place IMO) as with the Ravens then I am all for it - Keep Schotty and pray. GO JETS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm going to give him a clean slate to start with. Which is really the best thing I can say about any new coach (so obv I like the hire). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 So you were more confident in Mangini? An underaged go-fer that never played, was a DC for one season and had the calls pulled by BB? Edwards? He wasn't even the DC. The only reason most of has a soft spot for him was the Miracle at Meadowlands. Al Groh was Bill Walsh compared to those two. I guess you are just talking silly so that you don't jinx it, but it's still silly. Lets see Dom, maybe I can make it simple for you: Mangini: Belichick's staff Herm: Tampa 2 / Dungy's staff Not too hard to think why I'd be confident in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 If Rex was bringing Ed Reed with him I'd be excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 1. Eric Mangini will do well in Cleveland 2. Rex Ryan will get us to the playoffs and be a hero in 2009 I thought Mangini was inexperienced, needed better coordinators and had to "EAT" Favre. Rex will do fine, defense will improve the question is who can run the offense? BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 1. Eric Mangini will do well in Cleveland 2. Rex Ryan will get us to the playoffs and be a hero in 2009 I thought Mangini was inexperienced, needed better coordinators and had to "EAT" Favre. Rex will do fine, defense will improve the question is who can run the offense? BZ I have to disagree on Mangini by the simple fact he is in an impossible division. When people say "Mangini will do well" I have to believe that they're saying so without taking the AFC North into account. The Browns play the Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals 6 times. It's easy to predict that the Browns would be 1-5 or 2-4 in the division. That's putting Mangini behind the 8-ball to begin with. Mangini may "learn" to get better somehow (I don't believe he will since the Browns rewarded his methods by hiring him), it will be an extremely tough task to overcome that division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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