RichardSeymour Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Thought it would be fun to keep track of things week to week..... yes, I'm happy to be in a very slight lead after week one, but that doesn't mean anything.... it's just gonna be fun to keep track of this.... btw, I'm assuming that extra points are counting for TDs scored against the defense. Seems obvious to me, but if you have any objections EB, lemme know. Points allowed weekly (cumulative)... Week 1 Jets 27 (27), Pats 20 (20) Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 ... Jets DPA is +7 over the Pats Terms listed below.... http://www.jetnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6379&start=60 Winner chooses an avatar [and signature] for loser, starting at any time after both teams have played their final game, and lasting until draft day (always seems a good split point to me). If TS or Max veto the avatar, winner can choose another. The bet will be solely on which DEFENSE allows more points--- STs and offense are excluded, though if a defense gets r**** by turnovers and short fields.... tough, it all counts. ... After kickoff the bet is completely non-voidable. Any objections can be arbitrated by Bitonti, TX, or TS, whichever EB prefers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Interesting, extra points count I guess.... :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted September 12, 2005 Author Share Posted September 12, 2005 Interesting, extra points count I guess.... :? I mean, I would argue that they should (though not for ST TDs or TDs given up by the offense), since IMO you can consider the extra point or 2 point conversion to be a "part" of the touchdown. If you'd rather they don't, we can change the rule on that.... up to you. Also btw, when I consider that the Raiders scored 20, in Foxboro, without getting any tunovers, and the Chiefs scored 27, in Arrowhead, getting 3 turnovers... that bums me out slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I mean, I would argue that they should (though not for ST TDs or TDs given up by the offense), since IMO you can consider the extra point or 2 point conversion to be a "part" of the touchdown. If you'd rather they don't, we can change the rule on that.... up to you. Also btw, when I consider that the Raiders scored 20, in Foxboro, without getting any tunovers, and the Chiefs scored 27, in Arrowhead, getting 3 turnovers... that bums me out slightly. I dont know what to say. I guess we count extra points on touchdowns givin up by the defense. It has to count, I guess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 Winner chooses an avatar [and signature] for loser, starting at any time after both teams have played their final game, and lasting until draft day (always seems a good split point to me). If TS or Max veto the avatar, winner can choose another. The bet will be solely on which DEFENSE allows more points--- STs and offense are excluded, though if a defense gets r**** by turnovers and short fields.... tough, it all counts. ... After kickoff the bet is completely non-voidable. Any objections can be arbitrated by Bitonti, TX, or TS, whichever EB prefers. Well after whipping my ass all year long EB is in danger.... NE has allowed 10 pts in the last 3 games, while NYJ have allowed 50. By my count per NFL.com NYJ have had 1 TD come off of an INT, 1 off of an FR. NE has had one off an INT. Seems reasonable to assume those TDs had XPs and not 2pcs. No KR or PR TDs for either team So as far as I can tell standings for the bet are NYJ pts allowed -14 NE pts allowed -7 NYJ 298 -14 = 284 NE 289 -7 = 282 So actually things are crazy close for these final two games. Should be interesting. Currently I'm winning as the Pats defense has allowed 2 fewer points.... but that ain't a huge margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Well after whipping my a$$ all year long EB is in danger.... NE has allowed 10 pts in the last 3 games, while NYJ have allowed 50. By my count per NFL.com NYJ have had 1 TD come off of an INT, 1 off of an FR. NE has had one off an INT. Seems reasonable to assume those TDs had XPs and not 2pcs. No KR or PR TDs for either team So as far as I can tell standings for the bet are NYJ pts allowed -14 NE pts allowed -7 NYJ 298 -14 = 284 NE 289 -7 = 282 So actually things are crazy close for these final two games. Should be interesting. Currently I'm winning as the Pats defense has allowed 2 fewer points.... but that ain't a huge margin. Damnit. I'll double check this later. The Jets D has definetly been screwed over by turnovers and shortfields, but like you said and I agreed, it has to count. Didnt the Jets offense give up points in kansas city too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Suprise ,Suprise Im suprised seymour took a bet without getting to make the rules. Im not suprosed he found a loophole to try to beat you barton. You should know better than to make bets with Patriot fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Well after whipping my a$$ all year long EB is in danger.... NE has allowed 10 pts in the last 3 games, while NYJ have allowed 50. By my count per NFL.com NYJ have had 1 TD come off of an INT, 1 off of an FR. NE has had one off an INT. Seems reasonable to assume those TDs had XPs and not 2pcs. No KR or PR TDs for either team So as far as I can tell standings for the bet are NYJ pts allowed -14 NE pts allowed -7 NYJ 298 -14 = 284 NE 289 -7 = 282 So actually things are crazy close for these final two games. Should be interesting. Currently I'm winning as the Pats defense has allowed 2 fewer points.... but that ain't a huge margin. Minue the BS points you trying to add on the kid and what do you really get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted December 24, 2005 Author Share Posted December 24, 2005 Damnit. I'll double check this later. The Jets D has definetly been screwed over by turnovers and shortfields, but like you said and I agreed, it has to count. Yeah, sorry, would have been too subjective otherwise. I unsetstand the pain though. Didnt the Jets offense give up points in kansas city too? Dunno--- I just used the pts allowed breakdown on NFL.com here http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-SCORING/2005/regular?sort_col_1=3 If you can find other evidence that more than two TDs by Jets opponents have come on INTs, FRs, and KR or PR, I'm definitely open to it. Maybe one of those FR or INT TDs came against KC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Well what about turnovers by the Jets offense that gives the other team an automatic field goal? Because the Jets defense has actually given up less TDs than the pats defense. What game and play was the touchdown given up by the pats offense? Seems to me like the Jets offense has practically given up 50 pts this year, esp the chiefs and falcons games with all the fumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted December 24, 2005 Author Share Posted December 24, 2005 Whup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted December 24, 2005 Author Share Posted December 24, 2005 Well what about turnovers by the Jets offense that gives the other team an automatic field goal? Because the Jets defense has actually given up less TDs than the pats defense. What game and play was the touchdown given up by the pats offense? Seems to me like the Jets offense has practically given up 50 pts this year, esp the chiefs and falcons games with all the fumbles. The bet will be solely on which DEFENSE allows more points--- STs and offense are excluded, though if a defense gets r**** by turnovers and short fields.... tough, it all counts. I suppose you could argue that this didn't explicitly include 'automatic field goals'..... but at the time and now I read it as a fumble that leaves the opponent on the 1 yd line and leads to a TD.... counts. If you want to throw it for arbitration, you can ask Bit, TX, or TS to rule on it, I'd go by whatever they said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Future reference kids: If you're gonna make bets like this, all rules have to be settled AHEAD of time. No arguing semantics after 14 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenjetsfan Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Hey handsome are you hanging with NE HICK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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