Jet Moses Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 So he'd be even with Murphy... Yup, for about 50 million dollars less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 How is that fair? Half the teams in the majors you could say that about. HE'S THE BEST HITTER IN BASEBALL for crying out loud. Unfortunately you have to take the bad with the good with him, and right now you are seeing why so many teams stayed clear of him. Ok.. the Mets corner OF sucks and most other teams trot out better than the dogsh!t we put out there. You wont hear an end to the calls for Manny by Mets fans. One reason why I didnt want Manny is all the sideshow bullcrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 What? It's got nothing to do with winning or losing. I know, but I'm saying if you take joy in the suffering of other, that's generally because you're unhappy and you want others to suffer. To me that's the mentality of someone who's been a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Joe Torre's life was GRAVY until now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Yup, for about 50 million dollars less. and 20 less HR's and 40 less rbi's and 20 points lower in BA. Plus the ability to hit in the clutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 [quote name='Blackout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I know, but I'm saying if you take joy in the suffering of other, that's generally because you're unhappy and you want others to suffer. To me that's the mentality of someone who's been a loser. Dude... it's funny. It just is. If you want to read your own trip into it, knock yourself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 and 20 less HR's and 40 less rbi's and 20 points lower in BA. Plus the ability to hit in the clutch Yet only one team wanted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I know, but I'm saying if you take joy in the suffering of other, that's generally because you're unhappy and you want others to suffer. To me that's the mentality of someone who's been a loser. this sounds like someone had Manny in a fantasy League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Yet only one team wanted him. its the economy! oh... and he's an asshat. I do believe that there was collusion also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 this sounds like someone had Manny in a fantasy League Nah, I just think it's sad for the sport. I could care less he was a member of the Sox team that flipped everything on the Yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I guess Omar/Wilpons looks better now. no....this has nothing to do with omar's inept handling of the team. you can look now and say...glad we don't have him cause he's banned for 50 games, but it doesn't sxcuse omar for bweing short-sighted when it came to this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Yet only one team wanted him. Dodgers, Giants, Nats all showed interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 First: I am surprised to hear this, how does any player continue to do knowing the public scorn they'll receive. He could be dumber then Arod, only because he continued to use after watching that debacle. Second: Anyone crying for an asterisks over the Sox championships should can it. Yankees were littered with steroids on there run, Clemens, Justice, Knoblauch, and whoever else. I just think its gay whenever someone says the yanks should have an asterisks over there titles, so save it when it comes to the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Does Boras feed it to these guys??? This is a very valid question. His guys come up tainted often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I just don't get it. How hard is it for a ballplayer to take something to the team physician and just ask if he should take these or is there anything in there that could be problem. These excuses "They didn't know" don't wash with me. MLB players are rapidly becoming the dumbest athletes in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I just don't get it. How hard is it for a ballplayer to take something to the team physician and just ask if he should take these or is there anything in there that could be problem. These excuses "They didn't know" don't wash with me. MLB players are rapidly becoming the dumbest athletes in the world. Dumb, arrogant or they simply don't give a crap. It doesn't make any sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I just don't get it. How hard is it for a ballplayer to take something to the team physician and just ask if he should take these or is there anything in there that could be problem. These excuses "They didn't know" don't wash with me. MLB players are rapidly becoming the dumbest athletes in the world. it will be hard for them to ever catch professional football players, in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 it will be hard for them to ever catch professional football players, in that respect. That is reality, but I doubt it is the perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 My mother in her 80's will not take any medication unless she knows exactly what it is for and the possible side effects and these guys are so naive to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Juiced or not this is one of my favourite Manny moments. I was sitting in the left field bleachers and swear there were 40,000 Red Sox fans at Camden Yards that night. dfe96xfUG54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 This is just another black eye for baseball. The integrity of the current game takes another bite. Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, A-Rod and now Manny. The 90 and 00's in baseball deserve a big *next to every record. I just hope the ignoramuses whom run baseball and wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha eat d*ck Manny. By the way, no one pointing out the major flaw in his statements so far. He claims he went to a doctor for a personal thing, and he was presribed this "medication". Then he picked it up at GNC. Since when does GNC fill subscriptions for drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 This is just another black eye for baseball. The integrity of the current game takes another bite. Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, A-Rod and now Manny. The 90 and 00's in baseball deserve a big *next to every record. I just hope the ignoramuses whom run baseball and wake up. What do we do about football? People act like the NFL doesn't have PED users and that is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 By the way, no one pointing out the major flaw in his statements so far. He claims he went to a doctor for a personal thing, and he was presribed this "medication". Then he picked it up at GNC. Since when does GNC fill subscriptions for drugs? Where did Manny say he got it from GNC? This is the only statement I've seen from him: Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me. Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I've taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons. I want to apologize to Mr. McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, Mr. Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. LA is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I'm sorry about this whole situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 What do we do about football? People act like the NFL doesn't have PED users and that is absurd. True. Baseball is all about the numbers though. Baseball needs to get away from that and this is another opportunity to do so. I said it here before. Bud needs to make a decision on this ERA and all of it's players. Label it, make a note in the Hall and move on. Sure some purist nerd will walk away, but I think a majority of the country would be happy to move on. An NFL player is suspended, it is news for a day. Manny is going to be a topic starter on every show for the next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Red Sawx World Series wins now have a huge * Half of the Mitchell Report was ****ing Yankees. **** - I didn't just say f-uck...I'm just giving the Yanks their asterisks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 This is just another black eye for baseball. The integrity of the current game takes another bite. Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, A-Rod and now Manny. The 90 and 00's in baseball deserve a big *next to every record. I just hope the ignoramuses whom run baseball and wake up. The problem with this is that Pud Selig will be on all the networks today saying "Look the program is working" It isn't You are still having guys test positive 5 years later. That isn't a program that is working if you ask me. You want something that will eliminate it all together ? Make is a full season suspension. Now granted the players union would probably never go for that but it MLB was really serious about ridding baseball of PED's then do it. Don't have @ss it. First test: 1 year Second test: Banned from Baseball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 True. Baseball is all about the numbers though. Baseball needs to get away from that and this is another opportunity to do so. I said it here before. Bud needs to make a decision on this ERA and all of it's players. Label it, make a note in the Hall and move on. Sure some purist nerd will walk away, but I think a majority of the country would be happy to move on. An NFL player is suspended, it is news for a day. Manny is going to be a topic starter on every show for the next week. I would say at least 60-70% of MLB was doing it, ptichers and hitters so they played on a level playing field. Expansion and smaller parks had more to do w/ the HR surge than steroids I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Just goes to show that no matter how you slice it, the red Sawx Championships are now tainted If the test results or proof came out that in 04 and 07 he tested positive, I'd agree. But this test is in 09 AFTER he left Boston!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha eat d*ck Manny. By the way, no one pointing out the major flaw in his statements so far. He claims he went to a doctor for a personal thing, and he was presribed this "medication". Then he picked it up at GNC. Since when does GNC fill subscriptions for drugs? Subscriptions? Don't know. I know they don't fill prescriptions, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Subscriptions? Don't know. I know they don't fill prescriptions, though. nice catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Yes, but is it the Doctor's responsibility to check? No. It's a substance called HCG, a womens' fertiity drug known to be used by roid boys to cyle off. As per ESPN players have been told over and over that ANYTHING they put in their bodies can be given to the team trainers and MLB will pay to have a chemist examine the substance to verify that it is compliance with MLB. This is a complete bullsheet excuse.It's known that ED medications are not in compliance; why would he not ask the trainer to make the free inquirty with MLB unless he knew he was cheating?With this much money at stake he is now an a liar as well as the idiot we all knew he was. However, welcome to the club. They are all cheats. No one suprises me any more. Shock ar this point would be if David Wiright and Jeter were clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 This is a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway. Besides anobolic steriods, human growth hormones, etc., what other performance enhancing drugs are there? I'm just asking because of this silly GNC claim. Are there over-the-counter supplements that are banned by mlb? If so, what are they? And, if you are unsure - can't you have your agent ask mlb? Shoot, send the query in writing just to cover your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 My question is is Manny's name on the list of 104 players who tested positive in '04?Jose Canseco is on record of saying the reason no one signed him to a long-term deal is because he was on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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