afosomf Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Other than going 1-15 and drafting Leinart this is only viable option to maybe get to 9-7. 1) Pick up the phone to Gibbs and give 2nd rounder to Ramsay, Gibbs is not enamored with him and we could take him off their hands. 2) Start Blaylock or Houston and Bench Ole Man River. CM can take 5 carries a game to spell either one of them 3) Bench Sherbet's arse and immediately Put Jericho in starting lineup. You will see he is the best WR on team. 4) Put penne on IR and convince him to retire, this will reduce cap hit for 2006. Volek will not be available, Rivers for a #1 pick might also happen as long as Brees plays well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Other than going 1-15 and drafting Leinart this is only viable option to maybe get to 9-7. 1) Pick up the phone to Gibbs and give 2nd rounder to Ramsay, Gibbs is not enamored with him and we could take him off their hands. 2) Start Blaylock or Houston and Bench Ole Man River. CM can take 5 carries a game to spell either one of them 3) Bench Sherbet's arse and immediately Put Jericho in starting lineup. You will see he is the best WR on team. 4) Put penne on IR and convince him to retire, this will reduce cap hit for 2006. Volek will not be available, Rivers for a #1 pick might also happen as long as Brees plays well. dont disagree with anything u say....... is there a Tenn QB out there who is available and knows Dingers system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Basically if Herm decides to start Bollinger for a signifcant period of time, the season is over. If thats the case, play Houston/Blaylock and see what you have. Let Cotchery play. Hell, those things should be happening even if we had a QB. The whole situations a complete mess. I think its likely Herms last year here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Other than going 1-15 and drafting Leinart this is only viable option to maybe get to 9-7. 1) Pick up the phone to Gibbs and give 2nd rounder to Ramsay, Gibbs is not enamored with him and we could take him off their hands. If he isn't enamored with Ramsey, why overpay for him? If that is your plan, you could probably get him for a fourth or a fifth round pick in 07 or something. 2) Start Blaylock or Houston and Bench Ole Man River. CM can take 5 carries a game to spell either one of them As much as we'd like this to happen, it won't. I mean, he didn't put the team ahead when he sprained both of his ankles, why would he now? 3) Bench Sherbet's arse and immediately Put Jericho in starting lineup. You will see he is the best WR on team. That won't happen either. Herm is a loyalist. He doesn't, obivously, play to win. He plays his buddies, and pads their stats. Wayne should have retired during the offseason. 4) Put penne on IR and convince him to retire, this will reduce cap hit for 2006. Why would he retire? He probably feels like he can go. Volek will not be available, Rivers for a #1 pick might also happen as long as Brees plays well. I don't know if the Chargers would trade Rivers to someone in the same conference. I dunno... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 I don't know if the Chargers would trade Rivers to someone in the same conference. I dunno... Gibbs Isn't stupid, they drafting him with a #1 pick and they know Jesticles are in deep doo doo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I agree with everything there! Is Ramsey good? Certainly better than Couch right? The Pennington era is done...If you bring in someone bring in someone who may also be able to start next year... Leinert, Ramsey, Rivers/Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Basically if Herm decides to start Bollinger for a signifcant period of time, the season is over. If thats the case, play Houston/Blaylock and see what you have. Let Cotchery play. Hell, those things should be happening even if we had a QB. The whole situations a complete mess. I think its likely Herms last year here. u watch, Herm will use the injuries as his 'need a def coord', 'need a off coord' excuse du jour...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 u watch, Herm will use the injuries as his 'need a def coord', 'need a off coord' excuse du jour...... The question is, is Woody dumb enough to buy another excuse from Herm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Doens't matter who you put back there, but some of you are missing the point, if the o-line can't keep the pressure of the RB or QB you could put Vick and LT back there and they would look like sh*t. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Ramsey makes horrible decisions but has a great arm. I would see what Bollinger has and hope the OL improves. If the OL improves so will the running game. That happens along with our defense continuing to play well and the season is not over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Doens't matter who you put back there, but some of you are missing the point, if the o-line can't keep the pressure of the RB or QB you could put Vick and LT back there and they would look like Sh#t. BZ 110% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Doens't matter who you put back there, but some of you are missing the point, if the o-line can't keep the pressure of the RB or QB you could put Vick and LT back there and they would look like Sh#t. BZ i think you might be missin the point that when u play a weak armed QB the line LOOKS worse than it is cause the defense stacks the line caus ethey dont respect the deep throw,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 i think you might be missin the point that when u play a weak armed QB the line LOOKS worse than it is cause the defense stacks the line caus ethey dont respect the deep throw,,,, Come on, you saw two QBs get hurt in one game and two RBs look like crap. Someone, at some point has to figure out that the O-line is not doing it. I am not saying that Chad was playing well, he was playing like sh*t, but if you look at the whole game, there was way too much penetration. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Gibbs Isn't stupid, they drafting him with a #1 pick and they know Jesticles are in deep doo doo They aren't in as deep as it would seem. It's still a vet offense. And, Gibbs didn't pick him. It's not one of his boys. He'll part with him easier. That and he's a FA after the year. A RFA, but a FA none the less (speaking of Ramsey). It isn't all doom and gloom, that us fans are projecting. They still have a defense that will get better later in the year, as they gain more experience. The offense still has talent, with Coles, McCarines, and the rest... they jsut need the line to do it's job and a QB that can throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I just dont understand how..... A team can sit a top 5 pick on the bench for 2 straight seasons (Chargers ~ Rivers) ------- With the skins grooming Jason Campbell and naming Brunell the starter, I dont see why trading Ramsey would be out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I just dont understand how..... A team can sit a top 5 pick on the bench for 2 straight seasons (Chargers ~ Rivers) Because the guy he was going to replace had a Pro Bowl season. Oh, and he led them to the playoffs. Brees came out of nowhere to have his year. And, that's my thinking with Ramsey. If you're going to trade for him, don't give up anything as valuable as a second round pick, especially with the Jets needing to reload that offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I just dont understand how..... A team can sit a top 5 pick on the bench for 2 straight seasons (Chargers ~ Rivers) ------- With the skins grooming Jason Campbell and naming Brunell the starter, I dont see why trading Ramsey would be out of the question. if rivers had not held out in training camp he would have been the starter,,the chargers drafted him to start from day one but he held out and didnt get into camp after 2nd or 3rd preseason game,,so brees had to start,,the rest is history, brees had a probowl year,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Because the guy he was going to replace had a Pro Bowl season. Oh, and he led them to the playoffs. Brees came out of nowhere to have his year. And, that's my thinking with Ramsey. If you're going to trade for him, don't give up anything as valuable as a second round pick, especially with the Jets needing to reload that offensive line. Obviously, I realize Brees had a GREAT season, so he had to remain the starter. But regardless, leaving a top 5 pick on the bench for 2 years is a waste. The Chargers should be looking to get some value for him in a trade, because they know for a fact who their starter is for the next 5+ years, and thats Drew Brees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Obviously, I realize Brees had a GREAT season, so he had to remain the starter. But regardless, leaving a top 5 pick on the bench for 2 years is a waste. The Chargers should be looking to get some value for him in a trade, because they know for a fact who their starter is for the next 5+ years, and thats Drew Brees. I read a article in which the SD GM was quoted as sayin the signing bonus etc prohibited them from trading him until afterthis year,,and when he was home here in Raleigh in offseason I saw an interview with Rivers where he said either Brees or he will be gone after 2005 and he reiterated his contract made it tuf fdor SD to trade him until after this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Obviously, I realize Brees had a GREAT season, so he had to remain the starter. But regardless, leaving a top 5 pick on the bench for 2 years is a waste. The Chargers should be looking to get some value for him in a trade, because they know for a fact who their starter is for the next 5+ years, and thats Drew Brees. I can't argue it's a waste, because it is. But hey, had Rivers not held out and didn't give Brees the chance, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat21 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 1) Pick up the phone to Gibbs and give 2nd rounder to Ramsay, Gibbs is not enamored with him and we could take him off their hands. If he isn't enamored with Ramsey, why overpay for him? If that is your plan, you could probably get him for a fourth or a fifth round pick in 07 or something. I doubt Gibbs takes anything less than a first rounder for Ramsey. If we are going to suck this year, do we really want to give up a #1 next year? Maybe two years from now, but not next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Ramsey is IMO gun shy at this point from the beatings he has taken in DC- I would not give up a choice for him. Not really impressed with him in what I have seen him play. Worst thing to do is get rid of valuable draft choice right now for a guy that is not the sure answer at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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