Smizzy Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I don't want Chad Pennington back next yr or any yr he feels healthy enough to play. Besides the point his shoulder is chop meat and he will never be able to throw the ball with any velocity again....When he was "Healthy" he sucked. The NY Jets made a mistake with Chad....Should have never drafted him. Never should have paid him that kinda of coin. Now they will waste the next 3 yrs of this franchise trying to put him back into a uniform and onto the field. Thanks for throwing the future in the garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I don't think Pennington will ever be what he was before his injuries. STill, you won with Testaverde, you can definitely win with Penny. Just quit letting your good backs go to other teams in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Chad's injury isnt that big a deal to me anymore. What concerns me is that he wasn't that good to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 I don't think Pennington will ever be what he was before his injuries. A Rag Armed Qb with the Smarts to make all the throws but without the arm strength to actually do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 I see Kids wearing his #10 and I just want to screem to them " Yea...Chad Pennington is a good QB and Santa and the Tooth Fairy are real too! " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 He will not be the only QB in camp next year...Fiedler, McNair, Simms,Schaub, a draft pick. There's no way that anyone is coming in to camp in 2006 depending on or waiting for Pennington. if he can come back and be effective, great. But the days of pining for him are over forever. Meantime, 2005 ain't over yet. If this offense can give a reasonable facsimile of a competent unit, the defense is top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 He will not be the only QB in camp next year...Fiedler, McNair, Simms,Schaub, a draft pick. There's no way that anyone is coming in to camp in 2006 depending on or waiting for Pennington. if he can come back and be effective, great. But the days of pining for him are over forever. Meantime, 2005 ain't over yet. If this offense can give a reasonable facsimile of a competent unit, the defense is top flight. These are the Jets. Penny, Fiedler, Eakin. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 These are the Jets. Penny, Fiedler, Eakin. Book it. That would be an absolute embarassment. Chad Pennington is done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 That would be an absolute embarassment. Chad Pennington is done! Ahem. Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 you guys can declare whatever you want, feel emotionally attached to the player or not - either way it's not going to change the reality of the cap and Chad's contract. He's coming back, he's going to try to start, that's what happens when you have 15 million unamortized. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 you guys can declare whatever you want, feel emotionally attached to the player or not - either way it's not going to change the reality of the cap and Chad's contract. He's coming back, he's going to try to start, that's what happens when you have 15 million unamortized. Deal with it. I wonder if the next coach will take Penny seriously as he lofts up pathetic duck after pathetic duck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 you guys can declare whatever you want, feel emotionally attached to the player or not - either way it's not going to change the reality of the cap and Chad's contract. He's coming back, he's going to try to start, that's what happens when you have 15 million unamortized. Deal with it. I am dealing with it....but I won't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Jet Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 you guys can declare whatever you want, feel emotionally attached to the player or not - either way it's not going to change the reality of the cap and Chad's contract. He's coming back, he's going to try to start, that's what happens when you have 15 million unamortized. Deal with it. Yeah, I agree. By cutting him, we still need to count him against the cap, sign a starter and pay for a backup. Keeping him, (hopefully renogotiated), well, he's an expensive backup, but ...it may be the less expensive option. It's an unfortunate situation to be in, but, that's where we are..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Yeah, I agree. By cutting him, we still need to count him against the cap, sign a starter and pay for a backup. Keeping him, (hopefully renogotiated), well, he's an expensive backup, but ...it may be the less expensive option. It's an unfortunate situation to be in, but, that's where we are..... I want drastic action. If we go into camp next year and he's the clear-cut #1, I will have trouble maintaining my positivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Jet Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I want drastic action. If we go into camp next year and he's the clear-cut #1, I will have trouble maintaining my positivity. You won't be the only one. Geez, even Jets Freak would have a hard time putting a positive spin on that. 8) At least I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 You won't be the only one. Geez, even Jets Freak would have a hard time putting a positive spin on that. 8) At least I hope so. Jetsfreak has never turned on the Jets. When he has something negative to say he just goes into hiding and waits for the next semi-pseudo-positive occurrence in Jets-land to rear his pretty head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Jet Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 You know what's sad? If Herm is still the coach of the Jets next year, you just know that there is a very good chance that Chad will be the starter. His arm strength and health be damned. I really like Chad. I do. But I want what's best for the Jets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 You know what's sad? If Herm is still the coach of the Jets next year, you just know that there is a very good chance that Chad will be the starter. His arm strength and health be damned. I really like Chad. I do. But I want what's best for the Jets! I cannot see a scenario by which Herm returns as coach next year. There is a need to rebuild on the offensive side of the ball that will either cause Herm to walk away or cause Woody to start over. It has to absolutely kill him that the Giants now have a young foundation of talent that the Jets do not have, and which will ensure that they dominate the sports pages for the next decade if something drastic isn't done. If he needed any confirmation that the NY Jets are THE paradigm for the "second rate franchise," the whole West Side mess had to do it for him. Either Woodman gets pro-active to push the Jets to the next (ie credible) level, or he just bails water until he can sell the team in a few years and scurry back to Florida like a rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I want drastic action. If we go into camp next year and he's the clear-cut #1, I will have trouble maintaining my positivity. wow does this mean we may expect a negative post from you next season tom??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 wow does this mean we may expect a negative post from you next season tom??? Yes joewilly for Tom Shane to post a postive comment on the Jets- I will believe it when I see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 When he was "Healthy" he sucked. The NY Jets made a mistake with Chad. Should have never drafted him. Never should have paid him that kinda of coin. Now they will waste the next 3 yrs of this franchise trying to put him back into a uniform and onto the field. Thanks for throwing the future in the garbage. Smizz, did you just copy and paste one of my prior posts? :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Smizz, did you just copy and paste one of my prior posts? :wink: The much bigger issue here is if Penny never returns will TX reach 6,000 posts without his primary source of material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 The much bigger issue here is if Penny never returns will TX reach 6,000 posts without his primary source of material? Shelter, as long as Hermy is still around I am good to go. I might have some serious problems if the Jets ax him however. What the hell will I do without PennyBoy and Hermy around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Shelter, as long as Hermy is still around I am good to go. I might have some serious problems if the Jets ax him however. What the hell will I do without PennyBoy and Hermy around? I think the drafting of DRob at that price would be your emergency source. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I wonder if the next coach will take Penny seriously as he lofts up pathetic duck after pathetic duck? Maybe the Jets could release some ducks when Penny goes back to pass in order to confuse the D?? At any rate Penny should have a big plastic Fork attached to his uniform because he's done!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I think the drafting of DRob at that price would be your emergency source. :wink: If he keeps playing like he did last weekend, that advantage will fall by the wayside as well. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 we know you're keeping our kickers name in your hip pocket too tx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 we know you're keeping our kickers name in your hip pocket too tx I almost forgot about that one. Nuge alone should be good for about 3,000 posts. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 any word on brien coming in & challenging for the position yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Yes joewilly for Tom Shane to post a postive comment on the Jets- I will believe it when I see it Shane's unwielding negativity has led me to only one conclusion.......................................................................................................................... He's not getting any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Shane's unwielding negativity has led me to only one conclusion.......................................................................................................................... He's not getting any. I think his Proctologist would disagree with you!! :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 that's what happens when you have 15 million unamortized. Deal with it. if he retires due to the injury can't the jets amortize the signing bonus over the life of the contract? i am not sure if that is a rule, buti thought i read it some where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 if he retires due to the injury can't the jets amortize the signing bonus over the life of the contract? i am not sure if that is a rule, buti thought i read it some where. to the best of my knowledge if Chad retires it's the same as if he has been cut. The bonus that hasn't counted against the cap accelerates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Chad will be back and hopefully will be ready for prime time, but the Jets organization has to take steps to protect the QB position in more than a few ways. 1) Get a QB who is ready to step in and play as the starter for 2006/2007/2008 2) Rebuild some of the offensive line to get better protection. I won't count Chad out till I have witnessed it, but it is not looking good at this point. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CondorJet_621 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I posted before the season started that this was Chads year to put up or shut up as a Jet. He needed to be injury free and make NFL-caliber throws. He failed, got injured even further, and now his even having ANY career as a player is in question. The Jets MUST cut ties with him. This is a business, and its time to go in a different direction. SOmebody needs to say, "Sorry kid, you're a nice guy, but it just didn't work out". This is a guy who was unable even BEFORE injury to throw an NFL Deep-Out or even a proper Hail Mary without EMBARRASSING himself. 2002 was fun, but that was a LOOOOONG time ago. The book is out, and now hes damaged goods. HOW CAN ANY ORGANIZATION WITH A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY PIN THEIR HOPES ON HIM?? They can't. ANd if they do....the Jets are truly the EMBARRASSMENT some opposing fans state they are. Time to move on ASAP. Take the hit and start fresh NOW, not later, when its painfully obvious and PROVEN that Chad isn't bringing this team anywhere but to the brink of frustration. Drafting Brady Quinn would be a great start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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