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#1 DMaynard

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:32 AM

Anyone with even a mild interest in this subject is familiar with the famous "Patterson film" shot in 1967. These two guys took this film when they came across a huge ape like creature calmly walking away from them in the California woods.

It is, of course, highly controversial. But believers and skeptics alike agree it can only be one of two things. Either an actual Bigfoot, or a man dressed in a gorilla outfit - probably in cahoots with the two men, who had a rifle and did not use it. The film has been disected and argued about for forty plus years with no clear cut winner of the debate.

One aspect that I have never heard or read anyone mention is the fact (unless they lied about this as part of a hoax) that both mens' horses reared up and were spooked when they came upon the creature/man. Now, I am no expert on horses. But I am not a city boy and have been around horses enough to believe they would not scare like this if some idiot was 30 yards away in a gorilla suit (or else they would have had a heck of a time on the set of Planet of the Apes). A bear or a cougar, probably. But I would imagine their reaction would come from smell and animal instints, especially two horses that are used to carrying two hunters/outdoorsmen.

I'd like to hear the opinion of someone who really knows horses. If my thoughts are correct, it does not prove this mystery, but just adds another aspect as to why it may have been the real thing.

Edited by DMaynard, 26 April 2010 - 11:33 AM.

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:44 AM

I've seen this film broken down and it can not be a man in a costume-the way the muscles moved on her legs when she was walking (yes it's a female). Also a man couldn't have walked the way she walked-we're not built like that. I have no problem believing that there are countless undiscovered creatures roaming this planet. As I've said before my uncle and his partner came across a skunk ape back in the late 70's while on a stakeout in the Everglades

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:45 AM

I read an article where one of the guys admitted it was a hoax on his deathbed. I'll see if I can find it.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:48 AM

I read an article where one of the guys admitted it was a hoax on his deathbed. I'll see if I can find it.


no T, I think it was a guy saying that HE was in the costume but neither Patterson or Gimlin ever admitted it as a hoax.

http://www.bigfooten...rticles/gps.htm

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:52 AM

no T, I think it was a guy saying that HE was in the costume but neither Patterson or Gimlin ever admitted it as a hoax.

http://www.bigfooten...rticles/gps.htm


It was about the guy who claimed to be in the suit. There was a book written about it, called The Making of Bigfoot. There are really good theories on both sides of the issue.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:56 AM

no T, I think it was a guy saying that HE was in the costume but neither Patterson or Gimlin ever admitted it as a hoax.

http://www.bigfooten...rticles/gps.htm



Correct. Patterson died awhile ago and Gimlin still sticks to the story.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 12:16 PM

I've seen this film broken down and it can not be a man in a costume-the way the muscles moved on her legs when she was walking (yes it's a female). Also a man couldn't have walked the way she walked-we're not built like that. I have no problem believing that there are countless undiscovered creatures roaming this planet. As I've said before my uncle and his partner came across a skunk ape back in the late 70's while on a stakeout in the Everglades

I'd LOVE to believe they exist but you'd think by now someone, somewhere would have shot one or had one hit by a car or found a skeleton.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 12:26 PM

I think it's probably fake. Somebody should have found something by now.

On the other hand, our military can't find a 6-foot tall diabetic with a bag of cellphones in the desert.

So anything's possible.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 12:28 PM

I'd LOVE to believe they exist but you'd think by now someone, somewhere would have shot one or had one hit by a car or found a skeleton.



That is the best argument against their existance. On the other hand, there have been so many credible witness accounts.

BTW, Pete, I just put a Hurst shifter in my stang. What a difference. Should have done it years ago.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:22 PM

This guy I know swears he saw a flying saucer go by him on a desolated highway in Utah or Nevada. He drives for a living, but not tractor trailers, thank God.

So, he called the Police and told them about it. They asked him what kind of drugs was he on. I think he tried to call the Army too.

To hear him tell the story is hilarious. He doesnt care how much you laugh.

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:31 PM

This guy I know swears he saw a flying saucer go by him on a desolated highway in Utah or Nevada. He drives for a living, but not tractor trailers, thank God.

So, he called the Police and told them about it. They asked him what kind of drugs was he on. I think he tried to call the Army too.

To hear him tell the story is hilarious. He doesnt care how much you laugh.


UFO's I've seen. Both big and small. No Sasquatch though.

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:37 PM

This guy I know swears he saw a flying saucer go by him on a desolated highway in Utah or Nevada. He drives for a living, but not tractor trailers, thank God.

So, he called the Police and told them about it. They asked him what kind of drugs was he on. I think he tried to call the Army too.

To hear him tell the story is hilarious. He doesnt care how much you laugh.

I bet you here allot of good stories in the looney bin. :P

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:38 PM

UFO's I've seen. Both big and small. No Sasquatch though.

UFO's are unidentified flying objects, not necessarily life forms from another planet. ;)

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 12:24 AM

UFO's are unidentified flying objects, not necessarily life forms from another planet. ;)


True. Many writers have speculated that UFO's may not be alien at all, but the remnants of past civilizations that have inhabited this planet. This idea I find very plausible, but many questions remain that may never go answered in our time.

All I know is what I've seen on three different occasions in my life. Something else/someone else exists and are visible from time to time. I'm sure others here have seen such things. Hell, even John Lennon reportedly saw a strange craft hovering outside his window in New York City.

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 12:25 AM

Here's where my skepticism comes in in a general way. How come there's never a Mrs. Bigfoot? Or a Mr. and Mrs. Bigfoot with Bigfoot, Jr.? A whole extended family of Bigfeet (that's Bigfoot plural, of course), including Gramma and Gramps? Huh, hmm, huh? If Bigfeet are primates (haha, Bigfeet, that's making me laugh), they're not going to be loners, either. People love to believe crazy stuff, and that's why other people pull hoaxes - for the thrill of the dupe.

When you live in a culture where you're closer to your environment and have to scratch a hard living out of the earth with your own hands, hunt, fish with a spear, build your own dwellings, make your own clothes AFTER you spin your own thread, etc. to survive everyday life, mysticism and mystical creatures have a hell of a lot more credence. In fact, I don't doubt they 'exist'. Or flat exist without the quotation marks. It takes on a whole other significance, and it's entirely different than some goober saying he saw an ape that was eight feet tall with long fangs and yellow eyes in a cornfield. It just is.

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 12:35 AM

I just want to say this was the best thread title ever. "Bigfoot Question". Awesome. Only on JetNation!

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 01:17 AM

That is the best argument against their existance. On the other hand, there have been so many credible witness accounts.

BTW, Pete, I just put a Hurst shifter in my stang. What a difference. Should have done it years ago.

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 01:18 AM

This guy I know swears he saw a flying saucer go by him on a desolated highway in Utah or Nevada. He drives for a living, but not tractor trailers, thank God.

So, he called the Police and told them about it. They asked him what kind of drugs was he on. I think he tried to call the Army too.

To hear him tell the story is hilarious. He doesnt care how much you laugh.

They DO test a lot of new aircraft at night out of Nellis AF Base just north on Vegas. Might have been some new prototype.
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Posted 27 April 2010 - 01:19 AM

UFO's are unidentified flying objects, not necessarily life forms from another planet. ;)

I thought the F was for furry . ;)
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Posted 27 April 2010 - 03:07 AM

I'm about 85% sure these things exist in remote rural areas around the world. Some people that i have great respect for have told me stories of encounters and theyre far from crazy,nor on drugs.
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