The Troll Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Yeah, I know Vinny played extremely stupid when he was in there. But we still had a chance to win this game. Herm's idiotic ******* clock management sure as hell did not help matters. What kind of ******* idiot calls timeout directly after his team was awarded a very questionable catch for a first down? Vilma then got the ball right back for us, so down by two scores, we decide: What the hell? I bet they won't be expecting a draw play! The last minute of the first half was an absolute ******* embarassment. And don't get me started on Hermie's decision to call timeout before the fourth and one towards the end of the game. Not only does he pretty much leave us screwed should the Jets score a touchdown, but also, it gives the Falcons time to select an appropriate play. And after calling said timeout, the Jets decide to come out in a shotgun on 4th down and one with the game on the line. ******* pathetic. The Falcons are not a better team, they are just better coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Vick did his damnedest to keep the Jets in the game. But this is on Edwards. That was not NFL coaching clock management. He's exposed. He has to be gone. Again-he was more worried abotu his halftime interview than jawing with the refs as his team was totally jobbed.He commands zero respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJermaineFromQnz Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Yeah, I know Vinny played extremely stupid when he was in there. But we still had a chance to win this game. Herm's idiotic farging clock management sure as hell did not help matters. What kind of farging idiot calls timeout directly after his team was awarded a very questionable catch for a first down? Vilma then got the ball right back for us, so down by two scores, we decide: What the hell? I bet they won't be expecting a draw play! The last minute of the first half was an absolute farging embarassment. And don't get me started on Hermie's decision to call timeout before the fourth and one towards the end of the game. Not only does he pretty much leave us screwed should the Jets score a touchdown, but also, it gives the Falcons time to select an appropriate play. And after calling said timeout, the Jets decide to come out in a shotgun on 4th down and one with the game on the line. farging pathetic. The Falcons are not a better team, they are just better coached. -dont forget he wasted around 12 seconds before calling that timeout on the fourth and 1. -dont forget he didnt even make a scene about that bullsh1t call before halftime. -that idiotic draw play. ALSO - Did anyone notice after that laverneous catch where he stepped out on the left side of the field with around 4 minutes left, right before the long pass down te right side of the field, the clock was running??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I hate Herm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Edwards is babbling about "protecting the QB". hey, who kept drafinga nd signing defensive players and allowing the OL to go to seed for the whole time they were here? How many Yavonvitzes and Cvakas did they draft while they were spending the annual 2nd and 3rd picks and FA money on another DL or DB? Also, acting indignant over the fiasco before half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikeyman3 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I hate Herm as much as you guys but Vinn and the sieve that is the O-Line is the rewason we lost teh game. The Clock managment was however utterly disasterous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Barton done for the year; Testaverde likely out with Achilles injury; Coles going for x-rays on his elbow. Thye biggest homer in all the land, Greg Buttle, just described this team as in "disarray". He wouldn't be doing that unless soemone up top told him it's time to unleash the dogs. I think this is a bad sign for Hermie's job security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikeyman3 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Barton done for the year; Testaverde likely out with Achilles injury; Coles going for x-rays on his elbow. Thye biggest homer in all the land, Greg Buttle, just described this team as in "disarray". He wouldn't be doing that unless soemone up top told him it's time to unleash the dogs. I think this is a bad sign for Hermie's job security. I thought Barton was supposed to play tonight, did he play? I did not see him out there. I like Barton as a player, but Brown is a cheaper/younger option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAJetsFan Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I thought Barton was supposed to play tonight, did he play? I did not see him out there. I like Barton as a player, but Brown is a cheaper/younger option. He played a few series before limping off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 He played a few series before limping off. Bet it's a Neil O'Donnell injury: "I'll be damned if I'm risking my career for this retarded dead-man-walking." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentucky Jet Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Barton done for the year; Testaverde likely out with Achilles injury; Coles going for x-rays on his elbow. Thye biggest homer in all the land, Greg Buttle, just described this team as in "disarray". He wouldn't be doing that unless soemone up top told him it's time to unleash the dogs. I think this is a bad sign for Hermie's job security. GOOD! DUH HERM deserves to be fired along with BRADWAY aka BADWAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcel2NuFX Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Yeah, I know Vinny played extremely stupid when he was in there. But we still had a chance to win this game. Herm's idiotic farging clock management sure as hell did not help matters. What kind of farging idiot calls timeout directly after his team was awarded a very questionable catch for a first down? Vilma then got the ball right back for us, so down by two scores, we decide: What the hell? I bet they won't be expecting a draw play! The last minute of the first half was an absolute farging embarassment. And don't get me started on Hermie's decision to call timeout before the fourth and one towards the end of the game. Not only does he pretty much leave us screwed should the Jets score a touchdown, but also, it gives the Falcons time to select an appropriate play. And after calling said timeout, the Jets decide to come out in a shotgun on 4th down and one with the game on the line. farging pathetic. The Falcons are not a better team, they are just better coached. your delusional if you think clock managment is the reason we lost this game... When your team runs the ball 14 times for 28 yards(2 yards per carry) that is putting a hell of a lot of pressure on your QB which you already adressed being A very shaky looking Vinny Interceptaverde. Then you look at the opponent who had Warrick Dunn run 24 times for 155 yards(6.5 ypc). Overall we gave up over 200 yards on the ground and didn't gain even 40 yards ourselves. Blame it on herm all you want but don't tell me we had a chance to win this game we never did and the Falcons are indeed a much better team right now. I'm sick of Herm being the scape goat for all the players. We have one of the worst Offensive lines in the league, we don't have a QB, our RB is old and is not even given a chance to be succesful. Our defensive front looks like swiss cheese at times. We need another DT and we could use a goto reciever. Our secondary is pretty solid this year and that was the one thing that concerned most Jet fans in the pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 your delusional if you think clock managment is the reason we lost this game... When your team runs the ball 14 times for 28 yards(2 yards per carry) that is putting a hell of a lot of pressure on your QB which you already adressed being A very shaky looking Vinny Interceptaverde. Then you look at the opponent who had Warrick Dunn run 24 times for 155 yards(6.5 ypc). Overall we gave up over 200 yards on the ground and didn't gain even 40 yards ourselves. Blame it on herm all you want but don't tell me we had a chance to win this game we never did and the Falcons are indeed a much better team right now. I'm sick of Herm being the scape goat for all the players. We have one of the worst Offensive lines in the league, we don't have a QB, our RB is old and is not even given a chance to be succesful. Our defensive front looks like swiss cheese at times. We need another DT and we could use a goto reciever. Our secondary is pretty solid this year and that was the one thing that concerned most Jet fans in the pre-season. Did you even watch the game, or did you just read the stat sheet on the internet? Yes, the Jets had no running game, and no, we could not stop their running game, but the score was not 41-14. It was 27-14 and if Herm does not completely mismanage the clock at the end of the first half, we could have really made a game of this. Another thing you fail to mention is that Atlanta's passing game was equally as pathetic as our running game. Despite all of Vinny's mistakes; despite Curtis Martin continuing to decline; despite our horrific offensive line play, we still could have won this game had our head coach not been a ******* moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Did you watch this game? Vick kept them in the game. There was a chance. Simply a real head coach gets the officials to put 15 seconds back on the game clock at the end of the 1st half, or gets a 15-yard penalty for trying. Hermie was busy prepping for Michelle Tafoya. And even at the end, we again saw a team that either doesn't practice the hurry up/2 minute or doesn't even bother to have one. Which has been the case for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 What kind of farging idiot calls timeout directly after his team was awarded a very questionable catch for a first down? That was beyond stupid. How many times is Edwards going to slide under the radar after a FUNDEMENTAL clock management gaff? If there was any bright spot - Bollinger, as frightning as he looked out there - did move the chains and came up 1 blitz shy of getting us within a score. At this point, it's worth seeing if Brooksie can settle down in there - not like there's another choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Well i gotta admit that i'm finally on board as well. Herm has got to go. Not gonna add fule to the fire due to myself being a Steelers fan. I'll just say that while it couldn't have bothered me nearly as bad as it did you guys (i can only imagine your disgust) it was brutal watching that man coach that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 My simple question is, Why is Donnie Henderson considered viable replacement material? Why? Can anyone tell me that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Funny how all the Hermaphrodites were on this board falling all over themselves slipping and sliding on non-plasma body fluids to declare Herm a genius for starting Vinny against the Buc's two weeks ago, but now they want to tell us how this loss is all Vinny's fault (pretty much, yeah, but) and has nothing to do with Hermo once again calling an inexplicable TO. Come to think of it, Vinny called the TO. The whole season is a Keystone Cops episode. Good ol' Herm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Funny how all the Hermaphrodites were on this board falling all over themselves slipping and sliding on non-plasma body fluids to declare Herm a genius for starting Vinny against the Buc's two weeks ago, but now they want to tell us how this loss is all Vinny's fault (pretty much, yeah, but) and has nothing to do with Hermo once again calling an inexplicable TO. Come to think of it, Vinny called the TO. The whole season is a Keystone Cops episode. Good ol' Herm! Are there any queers here?......... Get 'em up against the wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Are there any queers here?......... Get 'em up against the wall! Is this a non-sequitor? Did I even spell that right? Did I just steal some of Fred Jetstone's material? Shoot me. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cant Hackett Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 My simple question is, Why is Donnie Henderson considered viable replacement material? Why? Can anyone tell me that? Because Donnie can get the defense to put their hats on people in a scrimmage game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 My simple question is, Why is Donnie Henderson considered viable replacement material? Why? Can anyone tell me that? Same reason Terry Robiskie was viable. They call them "interim" coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Same reason Terry Robiskie was viable. They call them "interim" coaches. So, Henderson is just considered an expendable item at this point? Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHJF Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Bullsh*t. This loss falls mainly on the shoulders of the OL. Look, I'm not a Herm supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but it all starts up front. Herm did his part by ******* things up late in the 1st half, but we were already down 17-0 at that point. This loss was clearly the result of the ineptitude of the guys up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 So, Henderson is just considered an expendable item at this point? Maybe Scott, I don't have any say in this. If I did, Herm would have been sacked in 2003. I don't like "interim" coaching changes, but if I can get Herm out of here ASAP, I'll do it any way I can. My gut feeling is Herm is not going anywhere, and will even be back next season. So psychologically, I have to start preparing myself for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Scott, I don't have any say in this. If I did, Herm would have been sacked in 2003. I don't like "interim" coaching changes, but if I can get Herm out of here ASAP, I'll do it any way I can. My gut feeling is Herm is not going anywhere, and will even be back next season. So psychologically, I have to start preparing myself for that. Jetmo- Here is the premise- First- I have no idea why Henderson is even considered viable coaching material-You don't replace a coach for the sake replacing a coach without a firm plan in place. Even if Henderson is considered a coaching candidate (I don't see it), placing him in an interim position places him in a no win situation. He will not straighten out this train wreck, and the possibility would exist that he would need to be replaced in teh end anyway. I nmy mind, Henderson is still a decent DC candidate for a new coach next year-There is no need to expose him to a possible housecleaning, at this point. No need and useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 This loss was clearly the result of the ineptitude of the guys up front. Can you imagine the carnage if the Falcons blitzed rather than stay in their box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Jetmo- Here is the premise- First- I have no idea why Henderson is even considered viable coaching material-You don't replace a coach for the sake replacing a coach without a firm plan in place. Even if Henderson is considered a coaching candidate (I don't see it), placing him in an interim position places him in a no win situation. He will not straighten out this train wreck, and the possibility would exist that he would need to be replaced in teh end anyway. I nmy mind, Henderson is still a decent DC candidate for a new coach next year-There is no need to expose him to a possible housecleaning, at this point. No need and useless Pragmatic and rational. I agree. This team is a mess and it's time to clean house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 The only reason Henderson is a viable candidate to replace Herm TODAY is that it allows Bradway to keep HIS white butt job and fire a black coach, cause he will replace him with a black coach. Thats the only political way to can Herm TODAY. After the season the Jets should opt to clean house by canning Bradway and Herm and therefore avoid the racial issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 My simple question is, Why is Donnie Henderson considered viable replacement material? Why? Can anyone tell me that? He's been a defensive coordinator for a pro football team. Oh, and his name isn't Herman Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 He's been a defensive coordinator for a pro football team. Oh, and his name isn't Herman Edwards. That kind of thinking will yield you the Jets of the early to mid 90's, Maybe YOU have time to waste with thsi franchise, I don't. PASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 That kind of thinking will yield you the Jets of the early to mid 90's, Maybe YOU have time to waste with thsi franchise, I don't. PASS We're already the Jets of the mid 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 We're already the Jets of the mid 90's. Yeah, so let's not WORSEN the problem by throwing short term answers at a solution that needs long term thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Yeah, so let's not WORSEN the problem by throwing short term answers at a solution that needs long term thinking. Dierking, you have yet to come up with any ideas yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Dierking, you have yet to come up with any ideas yourself. As I have been saying on this board for weeks, Mr kensil, hire Tome Heckert. Start there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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