Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I see the similarities you are trying to event, but I see no similarities in performance. I watched the entire game with my buddy yesterday and thought Henne played very well considering his opponent. You mean "invent?" I'm not suggesting that he plays like Pennington other than he checks down too much. Henne has a much different style and significantly stronger arm. I am talking about the results or lack thereof and his growing propensity to check down instead of trust his arm. Like his mentor, Henne seems all too satisfied to settle for three in the red zone instead of taking chances. The sad part is Henne has a weapon the likes of which Pennington never did - a giant wideout with long arms and a great vertical and he doesn't use him in the red zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'm quite sure if Sanchez posted similar numbers as Henne did you would be boasting his performance, but my QB ends up being a Chad Pennington clone? Chad Pennington struggles big time against agressive defenses like the Steelers have. We had ZERO running game yesterday and Henne did an good job to get us in position to kick what almost was the game winning field goal. No team to this point has scored more points against the steelers than us.Your bashing him just to bash him....no QB has put up better numbers against the Steelers than Henne has. And by the way - I've criticized Sanchez right in this very thread while making the comparison. Sanchez still has a long way to go but he is trending in a better direction than Henne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 And by the way - I've criticized Sanchez right in this very thread while making the comparison. Sanchez still has a long way to go but he is trending in a better direction than Henne. So, is Henne still regressing? And will you continue to say he has when they beat up on sh*tty teams at the end of schedule (i still think dulphins will stupidly bench him and let pennignton play the cupcakes, cause pennington is satan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 And by the way - I've criticized Sanchez right in this very thread while making the comparison. Sanchez still has a long way to go but he is trending in a better direction than Henne. Sanchez is winning more than Henne, besides that they're numbers are similar. And your team around Sanchez is clearly better, no question.I wish we could lineup and pound everyone out but we are not capable. Going back to Henne's performace yesterday, not one fan fin that i personally know is down on Henne's performance from yesterday. Would we have liked to have scored some more td's, yes, but at the same time i understand that he was facing one of the top defensive units in the league.Good day for Henne, but a tough disaponting loss also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 So, is Henne still regressing? And will you continue to say he has when they beat up on sh*tty teams at the end of schedule (i still think dulphins will stupidly bench him and let pennignton play the cupcakes, cause pennington is satan) No way in hell are they benching Henne and he is not regressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 So, is Henne still regressing? And will you continue to say he has when they beat up on sh*tty teams at the end of schedule (i still think dulphins will stupidly bench him and let pennignton play the cupcakes, cause pennington is satan) If Henne continues to beat sh*tty teams and lose to good ones isn't he just fulfilling his destiny as the second coming of the Pennington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 No way in hell are they benching Henne and he is not regressing. dear boy, you do not understand the evil powers of the noodle arm. He is not finished with you yet, you'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Sanchez is winning more than Henne, besides that they're numbers are similar. And your team around Sanchez is clearly better, no question.I wish we could lineup and pound everyone out but we are not capable. Going back to Henne's performace yesterday, not one fan fin that i personally know is down on Henne's performance from yesterday. Would we have liked to have scored some more td's, yes, but at the same time i understand that he was facing one of the top defensive units in the league.Good day for Henne, but a tough disaponting loss also. So now we get the ol' "If Henne just had a better team around him" argument that we always used to hear about Pennington as well? Before the season, weren't Fins fans telling us all how stupid we were and how much better the Dolphins talent surrounding Henne was than the talent surrounding Sanchez? So now Sanchez is 5-1 and Henne is 3-3 and its because the talent around Henne sucks and the talent around Sanchez is superawesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Constantly settling for FGs in the red zone just like Pennington. Before you start throwing stones, you do realize, that even with yesterday's 0-4 Red Zone performance, Henne and the Phins still have a higher Red Zone percentage than Sanchez and the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 So now we get the ol' "If Henne just had a better team around him" argument that we always used to hear about Pennington as well? Before the season, weren't Fins fans telling us all how stupid we were and how much better the Dolphins talent surrounding Henne was than the talent surrounding Sanchez? So now Sanchez is 5-1 and Henne is 3-3 and its because the talent around Henne sucks and the talent around Sanchez is superawesome? I dont care what anyone else said. Probably the same losers that want Chad Pennington at QB. Bottomline the numbers are similar. Are you saying our team around Henne is equal to the one around Sanchez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Before you start throwing stones, you do realize, that even with yesterday's 0-4 Red Zone performance, Henne and the Phins still have a higher Red Zone percentage than Sanchez and the Jets? Do they get a trophy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Before you start throwing stones, you do realize, that even with yesterday's 0-4 Red Zone performance, Henne and the Phins still have a higher Red Zone percentage than Sanchez and the Jets? It's pointless trying to talk facts and sense with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Before you start throwing stones, you do realize, that even with yesterday's 0-4 Red Zone performance, Henne and the Phins still have a higher Red Zone percentage than Sanchez and the Jets? Well, the Jets are 4th in the league in scoring with 26.5 points per game and the Dolphins are tied for 24th with 18.5 points per game. The Jets have 6 rushing TDs to the Dolphins tied for dead last in the league 1 rushing TD. The Jets have 16 total offensive TDs to the Dolphins 9. I am gonna go ahead and question your stat unless you can provide a link. And if the Dolphins happen to have a better red zone percentage, I am going to go ahead and assume that its because the Jets get there a hell of a lot more often, seeing as they've scored almost twice as many TDs as the Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Before you start throwing stones, you do realize, that even with yesterday's 0-4 Red Zone performance, Henne and the Phins still have a higher Red Zone percentage than Sanchez and the Jets? Jets are averaging 8 more points a game. Surely any discrepancy in red zone efficiency can be attributed to sample size, and probably irrelevant based on the enormous margin in scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I dont care what anyone else said. Probably the same losers that want Chad Pennington at QB. Bottomline the numbers are similar. Are you saying our team around Henne is equal to the one around Sanchez? You have the best WR in the league, I thought. You also have Brown and Williams, and all we've got is a washed up LT and a fumble and injury prone 2nd year guy, I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I am gonna go ahead and question your stat unless you can provide a link. http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Jets are averaging 8 more points a game. Surely any discrepancy in red zone efficiency can be attributed to sample size, and probably irrelevant based on the enormous margin in scoring. The Dolphins have scored TDs on 50% of their red zone chances, the Jets have scored on 47.825% of their red zone chances. Here's the rub: The Jets have nearly twice as many red zone chances as the Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Brandon Marshall - 1 TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-attempts-per-game Too bad the Dolphins rarely get into the red zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 You have the best WR in the league, I thought. You also have Brown and Williams, and all we've got is a washed up LT and a fumble and injury prone 2nd year guy, I thought. EY, what ever happened to that guy Joe McPuke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 You have the best WR in the league, I thought. You also have Brown and Williams, and all we've got is a washed up LT and a fumble and injury prone 2nd year guy, I thought. LOL things change, This has got be the last year for Brown with the Fins. Williams is old. We don't commit to the running game anymore. Marshall has been effective but inconsitent it seem slike every other game now he has good perfomance than an average performance the next game. L.T. is having a great year. Shonne Green hasnt done dick, guessing lack of carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 You have the best WR in the league, I thought. You also have Brown and Williams, and all we've got is a washed up LT and a fumble and injury prone 2nd year guy, I thought. Exactly, and don't forget how much better their oline was with Jake Long and Vernon Carey as opposed to "D'Bustashaw Ferguson and over the hill Damian Woody." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 EY, what ever happened to that guy Joe McPuke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 LOL things change, This has got be the last year for Brown with the Fins. Williams is old. We don't commit to the running game anymore. Marshall has been effective but inconsitent it seem slike every other game now he has good perfomance than an average performance the next game. L.T. is having a great year. Shonne Green hasnt done dick, guessing lack of carries. If you consider being on pace to run for 860+ yards as the number 2 back not doing "dick." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 LOL things change, This has got be the last year for Brown with the Fins. Williams is old. We don't commit to the running game anymore. Marshall has been effective but inconsitent it seem slike every other game now he has good perfomance than an average performance the next game. L.T. is having a great year. Shonne Green hasnt done dick, guessing lack of carries. I'm happy with Shonn Greene's 4.5 yards per carry. He's not getting the TDs now because LT gets the red zone carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-attempts-per-game Too bad the Dolphins rarely get into the red zone. Nice spin. Does that mean the Pats Super Bowl winning percentage is greater than the Jets because the Jets rarely get there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 It's pointless trying to talk facts and sense with him. Look who's talking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Nice spin. Does that mean the Pats Super Bowl winning percentage is greater than the Jets because the Jets rarely get there? Being repeatedly handed red zone opportunities doesn't hurt now, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Nice spin. Does that mean the Pats Super Bowl winning percentage is greater than the Jets because the Jets rarely get there? Pats Super Bowl winning percentage is ZERO!!! Talk to me when they win one without cheating!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Nice spin. Does that mean the Pats Super Bowl winning percentage is greater than the Jets because the Jets rarely get there? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 It's pointless trying to talk facts and sense with him. My irony meter just exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 lol I don't know what you're laughing at Buckwheat, your team just went 0-4 in the red zone and it cost them the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Being repeatedly handed red zone opportunities doesn't hurt now, does it? We're on the same page with this arguement. Red Zone success is even MORE important when you are handed the ball inside the 20. That's a totally different ballgame if the Phins jump out 14-0 instead of 6-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 We're on the same page with this arguement. Red Zone success is even MORE important when you are handed the ball inside the 20. That's a totally different ballgame if the Phins jump out 14-0 instead of 6-0. The Pats are a good red zone team. They should be. They have a very, very good veteran QB and Wes Welker after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 We're on the same page with this arguement. Red Zone success is even MORE important when you are handed the ball inside the 20. That's a totally different ballgame if the Phins jump out 14-0 instead of 6-0. If that happened, this thread doesn't. If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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