GlennFoley Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I don't want Volek,Rivers,Brees.. or whomever you guys are talking about next year.. Why? Rivers-We would have to give up AT LEAST a 1st rounder, and pay a big contract for a guy who we've never seen play in the NFL before... Sure you can consider Rivers as the 1st round pick, but I believe we will get into a bidding war for him, and have to give San Diego even more then a 1st round pick to get him.. Volek- I would like to have Volek if he was 26, but he's going to be 30 next year, and has never played a full season(sound familiar) Volek is also on the small side, and I don't see him surviving with our OL. I don't want to have to give Tennesee King's Ransom for him..which we will in order to get him.. Brees- Brees will be 27 next year so age isn't the problem. The problem is; like Rivers the contract, and the value we have to give up for him. The real bad thing with Brees is that we would have to give him a new contract which always causes problems.. This is a goood draft class for QB's.. If not Leinart you have.. Omar Jacobs Vince Young(probably) Jay Cutler Brett Basanez D.J Shockley(probably) Brody Croyle Darrell Hackney The beauty about this is you can get some QB's with potential(Cutler, Basenez, Shockley, Hackney) in rounds 3-6.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Right, nothing like drafting an unproven QB who's gonna take at least a few years to develop. Just in time for free agency. I'm not a fan at all of drafting a QB in the 1st unless you're drafting one to develop (i.e. Aaron Rogers) Trade a pick for a proven QB instead of gambling a guy who might be able to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 We can't draft a quarterback in the 1st round because we still have Pussington under that huge contract. We have to draft a QB on the first day, but in the second or third round. Basanez, Jacobs, or Cutler all sound good to me. If the guy we draft doesn't work out, then we will have to wait until we can eat Pussington's contract before drafting a first round quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Rivers doesnt have a big contract, get your facts straight. His cap hit next year is under 1 million! He'd be our best option, aside from drafting a QB in the 1st rd which probably wont happen. My guess is they go Oline in the 1st rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Rivers doesnt have a big contract, get your facts straight. His cap hit next year is under 1 million! He'd be our best option, aside from drafting a QB in the 1st rd which probably wont happen. My guess is they go Oline in the 1st rd. Yo barton, Cimini said last night that Rivers "isn't even on the Jets radar". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Yo barton, Cimini said last night that Rivers "isn't even on the Jets radar". shaub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 shaub Shaub could probably be had for the Jets 2nd round pick next year. It will be high enough that the Falcons may bite. Shaub on the Jets is a scary proposition as an opposing fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Rivers-We would have to give up AT LEAST a 1st rounder, and pay a big contract for a guy who we've never seen play in the NFL before... Sure you can consider Rivers as the 1st round pick, but I believe we will get into a bidding war for him, and have to give San Diego even more then a 1st round pick to get him.. This logic makes no sense.... You don't want to trade a first rd pick for rivers b/c he's never played..but you want to draft someone whose never played ..I dont get it! Rivers is a consensus TOP 5 Pick... Those are the players you WANT in the draft...I'd trade a 1 and a 3 for him... I repeat..That's like trading B Thomas and BJ Askew... Picks mean NOTHING if you don't use them right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Yo barton, Cimini said last night that Rivers "isn't even on the Jets radar". oh, that makes it fact then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 the only real FA next year worth talking about is Drew Brees. Schaub, Volek and Rivers are all under contract and their respective teams seem to be wary to trade. Why trade a great backup when you see what happened to the Jets? McNair might shake loose from Tennessee and frankly i see this as the most realistic option - that being said his body is a mess. But overall we are talking about a very slim FA crop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 the only real FA next year worth talking about is Drew Brees. Schaub, Volek and Rivers are all under contract and their respective teams seem to be wary to trade. Why trade a great backup when you see what happened to the Jets? McNair might shake loose from Tennessee and frankly i see this as the most realistic option - that being said his body is a mess. But overall we are talking about a very slim FA crop. well i doubt sd will keep both, most backups dont make the cash rivers does. i agree, i would love to get brees, but mcnair, NEVER,,, not at this point in career with his injury woes coupled with a crap OL we have.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 because of the slim supply, drew brees will get paid... seriously. With his height and performance in really big games I wouldn't touch him for what's he's gonna get on the open market. I don't know what the answer is but i don't think there are any "sure things" or "slam dunks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 because of the slim supply, drew brees will get paid... seriously. With his height and performance in really big games I wouldn't touch him for what's he's gonna get on the open market. I don't know what the answer is but i don't think there are any "sure things" or "slam dunks" I agree Bit he is going to get paid but I hope it isn't here. He is a lot like Chad. He needs a running game and won't lose the game for you. He is a great QB when his team is ahead. As we have learned this year, that isn't always enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiJet Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I don't see the Jets drafting a QB in round 1, because Herm and Terry might be on thin ice entering next season. Would you stake your job on a rookie, who will not play and take several years to develop? Not when you need to win now, and although we have a relatively young team, we also have vets like Martin and Mawae that do not have much time left. They would not like the idea of using a high pick on someone that will not be able to contribute immediately. There is far too much at risk to draft a kid in round one. The money for qb's is historically higher than any other position and the Jets are already shelling out too much for a damaged, brittle, Mr. Glass, who might never play another down. The kid probably would sit, so we're now talking two years before we get anything of substance. He might also tank. We're not going to get Brees, becasue he will cost too much and too many other teams are hungry for a qb. In all likelihood, Bradway will try and find his own Jake Delhomme. Matt Schaub is the kid he wants, but everyone else wants him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I would have no problem parting with a #2 and #5 for a Matt Schaub or a Billy Volek.. I would rather have either over Fiedler or Pennington... Draft a RB or monster DT/OT with rd 1pick .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Shaub could probably be had for the Jets 2nd round pick next year. It will be high enough that the Falcons may bite. Shaub on the Jets is a scary proposition as an opposing fan. i really like shaub. i know ATL will want a high pick in return - but what about packaging a middle-rd pick, fiedler, and someone like mccairens? i hate to give up a #2 with all of the holes and would like to see cotchery get a chance to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Shaub is beginning to remind me of that kid from the Eagles a few years ago. You know the guy, the Fins trade a first day pick for him and he never did anything!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 You dont trade a pick, fiedler and jmac for a guy with 1 game exp... a pick can get it done..a #2 and a lower rd pick... All I know is next year the jets (I hope) have a NEW feature back and a NEW QB..they also need a wr threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 All I know is next year the jets (I hope) have a NEW feature back and a NEW QB..they also need a wr threat. Yep, and they don't even have to make ANY changes with the OLine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Shaub is beginning to remind me of that kid from the Eagles a few years ago. You know the guy, the Fins trade a first day pick for him and he never did anything!!! The only thing that Schaub has done is put up big numbers against a lousy secondary in the one game that he played. Browning Nagle was awesome in his first game too and well, the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat21 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Bradway may just go with Fiedler as the starting QB next year. Watch how Fiedler finishes this year for a clue on Bradways thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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