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Yes. They are the best. 3 10 win teams. Defending SB champ. Team with best record in the NFL. 2 of the best qbs in the game and one the best young and up comers. Possibly sending 3 teams to the playoffs. Yes NFCS is the best.

And I don't know what you've seen in Freeman that tells u he can't handle the pressure. Seems very smart and even keeled to me.

The Bucs haven't beaten a single above 500 team this season. Yes the NFCS is a good division because of the Falcons and Saints, and the Bucs are 0-3 against them and are playing the Saints in Week 17. The Bucs have been beating up on weak teams. And the Lions won their first road game in what, 3 years? against the Bucs in week 15. They're an average team.

Freeman clearly is a good young QB, but it's way too early to say which one is better between him and Sanchez.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Go root for the Bucs then, Mr. Miserable.

I like the Jets.

Keller sucks.

Santonio sucks.

Both dropped SURE TD passes.

But keep hammering that black and white statistic.

There's plenty of gray laughing back in your face.

The only thing black and white is losing 3 of 4 down the stretch with your QB supplying 1 TD during that collapse.

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From a tools standpoint Freeman is/was far and away the better prospect. I too wanted to stay at 17,and draft him over Sanchez....

Why was Freeman drafted behind Sanchez?

Because Sanchez was a USC superstar. Everyone saw Sanchez slice and dice his way through Penn State's secondary in the Rose Bowl.

Freeman?

Did anybody watch Freeman play one collegiate game??? The KState Wildcats were in transition from Coach Snyder, and were as a result HORRIBLE.

What's funny is that many of the people who declare Freeman as the second coming probably have never seen the guy play an entire football game (NFL or College). They are going on what they see in the highlight reels.

Sanchez on the other hand is already an NFL superstar. The Jets are the most talked about football team on the planet, and nearly half of our games this year have either been prime time or the feature game of the week.

Has Josh Freeman ever been on the big stage before??? In his life???

Freeman may be the best of the bunch, but there is still a lot of football left to be played in their careers. I know Josh has put up some great numbers, but I will say that I think Mark Sanchez's numbers would be a lot better if he played in Tampa Bay this season.

Just off the top of my head The Bucs have 6 wins against the likes of St. Louis, Seattle, Carolina, Arizona, and Seattle.

The one game I saw Josh play on TV was against the Ravens. He didn't look nearly as polished as his stats indicated in that game.

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Freeman threw for 5 TDs yesterday and won me some fantasy championships. I can't really say too much negative about him, he's extremely consistent and seems to get "it." Freeman is clearly better than China Doll Stafford, who is the most talented of the bunch if he actually managed to stay on the field. But he can't, so he's useless. I'm glad we don't have Stafford.

Sanchez should at least be okay. He should be better than he is. I bet Freeman wouldn't be as good in this offense either. We suck.

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Losing 3 of 4 games down the stretch with 1 td pass to show for it is not impressive.

Put Freeman on this team and the guy is taking us to the SB. He's throwing to a rookie not Holmes, Edwards, Keller, Cotch, Lt playing with this ol. Please. Freeman is a stud.

and don't forget he has a rookie RB in Blount. That guy is a beast! I like freeman and I think he is as good as Sanchez. He has the better arm. I think Sanchez has a better feel for the game and is very instinctive.

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I like the Jets.

The only thing black and white is losing 3 of 4 down the stretch with your QB supplying 1 TD during that collapse.

Lemme know when Freeman quarterbacks a team to the conference title game.

Jetnation will be a gay porn site by then.

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Lemme know when Freeman quarterbacks a team to the conference title game.

Jetnation will be a gay porn site by then.

Sanchez was along for the ride last year. Few good play but let's not get too carried away. When Green went down against Indy we ALL knew we where dead, says something about Sanchez.

Your second comment is proof your not paying attention here.

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Sanchez was along for the ride last year. Few good play but let's not get too carried away. When Green went down against Indy we ALL knew we where dead, says something about Sanchez.

Your second comment is proof your not paying attention here.

Thank you Crushlove. Not many QB's are as fortunate as Sanchez. He has the perfect situation for a young QB.

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Sanchez was along for the ride last year. Few good play but let's not get too carried away. When Green went down against Indy we ALL knew we where dead, says something about Sanchez.

Your second comment is proof your not paying attention here.

I'm not the one getting carried away.

Just pointing out that Mark Sanchez has accomplished more in his career than Josh Freeman.

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I'm not the one getting carried away.

Just pointing out that Mark Sanchez has accomplished more in his career than Josh Freeman.

True, but when you're projecting their ceilings, as fans need to do with young players, Freeman has shown so many more tools than Sanchez, while working with so much less. Freeman shows signs of being a franchise player while Mark looks like a nice, if inconsistent, complementary piece.

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True, but when you're projecting their ceilings, as fans need to do with young players, Freeman has shown so many more tools than Sanchez, while working with so much less. Freeman shows signs of being a franchise player while Mark looks like a nice, if inconsistent, complementary piece.

Lemme see Freeman deal with a pinch of adversity first.

It's a lot easier to deliver when so little is expected.

I think Sanchez deserves a little more credit. Not to mention, his coaching staff seems to be completely LAWST.

If Freeman can win ONE game he has to win, I might give this notion a bit more credit. But he's yet to beat a team with a winning record and has done the majority of his damage against the NFC Worst.

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True, but when you're projecting their ceilings, as fans need to do with young players, Freeman has shown so many more tools than Sanchez, while working with so much less. Freeman shows signs of being a franchise player while Mark looks like a nice, if inconsistent, complementary piece.

This. When you have to dumb down your offense and simplify things for him because of his limitations, he's not a franchise QB. He's just a guy not losing games for you...sometimes.

I'd love to see Freeman on this team.

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Lemme see Freeman deal with a pinch of adversity first.

It's a lot easier to deliver when so little is expected.

I think Sanchez deserves a little more credit. Not to mention, his coaching staff seems to be completely LAWST.

lol LAWST!

I agree with you. Every throw Sanchez makes is under the microscope while every throw Freeman makes is shrouded in anonymity. But, the Jets have gone all-in on Mark and he's shown us a lot of very scary tendencies. Grass is, indeed, always greener, but you can't help but watch highlights where the bigger, stronger Freeman stands in and fires BB's for TD's to no-names and drool while Sanchez is consistently throwing knuckleballs at the feet of Braylon and Santonio.

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This. When you have to dumb down your offense and simplify things for him because of his limitations, he's not a franchise QB. He's just a guy not losing games for you...sometimes.

I'd love to see Freeman on this team.

I hope you are 100 percent wrong.

And I can't wait for Sanchez to prove it.

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lol LAWST!

I agree with you. Every throw Sanchez makes is under the microscope while every throw Freeman makes is shrouded in anonymity. But, the Jets have gone all-in on Mark and he's shown us a lot of very scary tendencies. Grass is, indeed, always greener, but you can't help but watch highlights where the bigger, stronger Freeman stands in and fires BB's for TD's to no-names and drool while Sanchez is consistently throwing knuckleballs at the feet of Braylon and Santonio.

Fair enough.

I still think da kid has potential AND guts.

I'm not ready to turn my back on him yet for some guy shredding the NFC Worst in a tropical climate.

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Fair enough.

I still think da kid has potential AND guts.

I'm not ready to turn my back on him yet for some guy shredding the NFC Worst in a tropical climate.

I've given Sanchez the benefit of the doubt the whole way through. I didn't want to draft him because I had no idea how good he was, or could be, because he had no track record. Now, two years later, I still have no idea how good he can or will be and that has really annoyed me about him. The one thing that you like about him is that he wins games, and you can't teach that. Jay Cutler is a million times more gifted than Sanchez, but he's never won until this year. At the very least, Sanchez competes, and doesn't sh*t his pants when the games get tighter. Still, he's far from elite and he shows you nothing that makes you think he'll ever get there.

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I've given Sanchez the benefit of the doubt the whole way through. I didn't want to draft him because I had no idea how good he was, or could be, because he had no track record. Now, two years later, I still have no idea how good he can or will be and that has really annoyed me about him. The one thing that you like about him is that he wins games, and you can't teach that. Jay Cutler is a million times more gifted than Sanchez, but he's never won until this year. At the very least, Sancohez competes, and doesn't sh*t his pants when the games get tighter. Still, he's far from elite and he shows you nothing that makes you think he'll ever get there.

Nothing? Really?

Getting a team to within 30 minutes from the Super Bowl as a rookie didn't show you anything?

Five fourth quarter/overtime game winning drives in his second season didn't show you anything?

How insanely high are your standards? The only people who think Sanchez realistically has shown no signs that he has the potential to be elite are people with moronically high standards or people like JiF and Aten and yourself who clearly made up their minds prior to the draft that if the Jets took Sanchez they would bitch about it until they looked stupid doing.so.

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Nothing? Really?

Getting a team to within 30 minutes from the Super Bowl as a rookie didn't show you anything?

Five fourth quarter/overtime game winning drives in his second season didn't show you anything?

How insanely high are your standards? The only people who think Sanchez realistically has shown no signs that he has the potential to be elite are people with moronically high standards or people like JiF and Aten and yourself who clearly made up their minds prior to the draft that if the Jets took Sanchez they would bitch about it until they looked stupid doing.so.

Do you trust Sanchez can win us a title without an elite defense or running game? Because Sanchez had both last year. Elite QB's can take a team on their back. I don't think Sanchez will ever get to that level. And that's perfectly OK, because you can count on one hand the number of QB's in the last decade who have that ability.

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True, but when you're projecting their ceilings, as fans need to do with young players, Freeman has shown so many more tools than Sanchez, while working with so much less. Freeman shows signs of being a franchise player while Mark looks like a nice, if inconsistent, complementary piece.

Is there anyone on the Jets you like?

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Nothing? Really?

Getting a team to within 30 minutes from the Super Bowl as a rookie didn't show you anything?

Five fourth quarter/overtime game winning drives in his second season didn't show you anything?

How insanely high are your standards? The only people who think Sanchez realistically has shown no signs that he has the potential to be elite are people with moronically high standards or people like JiF and Aten and yourself who clearly made up their minds prior to the draft that if the Jets took Sanchez they would bitch about it until they looked stupid doing.so.

This is actually a great point. Too many agendas. Sanchez played like complete a$$ against NE and Miami, but has bounced back nicely since then.

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Do you trust Sanchez can win us a title without an elite defense or running game? Because Sanchez had both last year. Elite QB's can take a team on their back. I don't think Sanchez will ever get to that level. And that's perfectly OK, because you can count on one hand the number of QB's in the last decade who have that ability.

If you' re going to get on the kid's case for not winning it all as a rookie you're only proving my point.

The only QB who won a title in the last decade without either a great running game or defense was Peyton Manning and the year he won his defense played their strongest three game stretch of his career.

All three time Cindy Brady won the Pats had an elite defense.

I don't know that Sanchez will ever achieve that level but to say he has shown no signs that he might one day is disingenuous at best.

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