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#41 CTM

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:31 PM

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:36 PM

Sanchez was along for the ride last year. Few good play but let's not get too carried away. When Green went down against Indy we ALL knew we where dead, says something about Sanchez.

Your second comment is proof your not paying attention here.


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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:45 PM

Sanchez was along for the ride last year. Few good play but let's not get too carried away. When Green went down against Indy we ALL knew we where dead, says something about Sanchez.

Your second comment is proof your not paying attention here.


I'm not the one getting carried away.

Just pointing out that Mark Sanchez has accomplished more in his career than Josh Freeman.

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:49 PM

I'm not the one getting carried away.

Just pointing out that Mark Sanchez has accomplished more in his career than Josh Freeman.



True, but when you're projecting their ceilings, as fans need to do with young players, Freeman has shown so many more tools than Sanchez, while working with so much less. Freeman shows signs of being a franchise player while Mark looks like a nice, if inconsistent, complementary piece.
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:51 PM

if sanchez can't win more than 10 games in his sophmore season what value does he have?


meanwhile this amazing cat in Tampa Bay has 4 wins over the NFC West. woopty woo bitches!
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:55 PM

True, but when you're projecting their ceilings, as fans need to do with young players, Freeman has shown so many more tools than Sanchez, while working with so much less. Freeman shows signs of being a franchise player while Mark looks like a nice, if inconsistent, complementary piece.


Lemme see Freeman deal with a pinch of adversity first.

It's a lot easier to deliver when so little is expected.

I think Sanchez deserves a little more credit. Not to mention, his coaching staff seems to be completely LAWST.

If Freeman can win ONE game he has to win, I might give this notion a bit more credit. But he's yet to beat a team with a winning record and has done the majority of his damage against the NFC Worst.

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:56 PM

True, but when you're projecting their ceilings, as fans need to do with young players, Freeman has shown so many more tools than Sanchez, while working with so much less. Freeman shows signs of being a franchise player while Mark looks like a nice, if inconsistent, complementary piece.


This. When you have to dumb down your offense and simplify things for him because of his limitations, he's not a franchise QB. He's just a guy not losing games for you...sometimes.

I'd love to see Freeman on this team.

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:00 PM

Lemme see Freeman deal with a pinch of adversity first.

It's a lot easier to deliver when so little is expected.

I think Sanchez deserves a little more credit. Not to mention, his coaching staff seems to be completely LAWST.



lol LAWST!

I agree with you. Every throw Sanchez makes is under the microscope while every throw Freeman makes is shrouded in anonymity. But, the Jets have gone all-in on Mark and he's shown us a lot of very scary tendencies. Grass is, indeed, always greener, but you can't help but watch highlights where the bigger, stronger Freeman stands in and fires BB's for TD's to no-names and drool while Sanchez is consistently throwing knuckleballs at the feet of Braylon and Santonio.
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:01 PM

This. When you have to dumb down your offense and simplify things for him because of his limitations, he's not a franchise QB. He's just a guy not losing games for you...sometimes.

I'd love to see Freeman on this team.


I hope you are 100 percent wrong.

And I can't wait for Sanchez to prove it.

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:03 PM

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:04 PM

I hope you are 100 percent wrong.

And I can't wait for Sanchez to prove it.


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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:04 PM

lol LAWST!

I agree with you. Every throw Sanchez makes is under the microscope while every throw Freeman makes is shrouded in anonymity. But, the Jets have gone all-in on Mark and he's shown us a lot of very scary tendencies. Grass is, indeed, always greener, but you can't help but watch highlights where the bigger, stronger Freeman stands in and fires BB's for TD's to no-names and drool while Sanchez is consistently throwing knuckleballs at the feet of Braylon and Santonio.


Fair enough.

I still think da kid has potential AND guts.

I'm not ready to turn my back on him yet for some guy shredding the NFC Worst in a tropical climate.

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:14 PM

Fair enough.

I still think da kid has potential AND guts.

I'm not ready to turn my back on him yet for some guy shredding the NFC Worst in a tropical climate.



I've given Sanchez the benefit of the doubt the whole way through. I didn't want to draft him because I had no idea how good he was, or could be, because he had no track record. Now, two years later, I still have no idea how good he can or will be and that has really annoyed me about him. The one thing that you like about him is that he wins games, and you can't teach that. Jay Cutler is a million times more gifted than Sanchez, but he's never won until this year. At the very least, Sanchez competes, and doesn't sh*t his pants when the games get tighter. Still, he's far from elite and he shows you nothing that makes you think he'll ever get there.
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:17 PM

Dont act like you didnt tell him about it.

You know I did. It was your idea. :blink:
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:19 PM

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:49 PM

I've given Sanchez the benefit of the doubt the whole way through. I didn't want to draft him because I had no idea how good he was, or could be, because he had no track record. Now, two years later, I still have no idea how good he can or will be and that has really annoyed me about him. The one thing that you like about him is that he wins games, and you can't teach that. Jay Cutler is a million times more gifted than Sanchez, but he's never won until this year. At the very least, Sancohez competes, and doesn't sh*t his pants when the games get tighter. Still, he's far from elite and he shows you nothing that makes you think he'll ever get there.

Nothing? Really?

Getting a team to within 30 minutes from the Super Bowl as a rookie didn't show you anything?

Five fourth quarter/overtime game winning drives in his second season didn't show you anything?

How insanely high are your standards? The only people who think Sanchez realistically has shown no signs that he has the potential to be elite are people with moronically high standards or people like JiF and Aten and yourself who clearly made up their minds prior to the draft that if the Jets took Sanchez they would bitch about it until they looked stupid doing.so.
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:54 PM

Nothing? Really?

Getting a team to within 30 minutes from the Super Bowl as a rookie didn't show you anything?

Five fourth quarter/overtime game winning drives in his second season didn't show you anything?

How insanely high are your standards? The only people who think Sanchez realistically has shown no signs that he has the potential to be elite are people with moronically high standards or people like JiF and Aten and yourself who clearly made up their minds prior to the draft that if the Jets took Sanchez they would bitch about it until they looked stupid doing.so.



Do you trust Sanchez can win us a title without an elite defense or running game? Because Sanchez had both last year. Elite QB's can take a team on their back. I don't think Sanchez will ever get to that level. And that's perfectly OK, because you can count on one hand the number of QB's in the last decade who have that ability.

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 11:02 PM

True, but when you're projecting their ceilings, as fans need to do with young players, Freeman has shown so many more tools than Sanchez, while working with so much less. Freeman shows signs of being a franchise player while Mark looks like a nice, if inconsistent, complementary piece.


Is there anyone on the Jets you like?

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 11:08 PM

Nothing? Really?

Getting a team to within 30 minutes from the Super Bowl as a rookie didn't show you anything?

Five fourth quarter/overtime game winning drives in his second season didn't show you anything?

How insanely high are your standards? The only people who think Sanchez realistically has shown no signs that he has the potential to be elite are people with moronically high standards or people like JiF and Aten and yourself who clearly made up their minds prior to the draft that if the Jets took Sanchez they would bitch about it until they looked stupid doing.so.


This is actually a great point. Too many agendas. Sanchez played like complete a$$ against NE and Miami, but has bounced back nicely since then.

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 11:08 PM

Do you trust Sanchez can win us a title without an elite defense or running game? Because Sanchez had both last year. Elite QB's can take a team on their back. I don't think Sanchez will ever get to that level. And that's perfectly OK, because you can count on one hand the number of QB's in the last decade who have that ability.

If you' re going to get on the kid's case for not winning it all as a rookie you're only proving my point.

The only QB who won a title in the last decade without either a great running game or defense was Peyton Manning and the year he won his defense played their strongest three game stretch of his career.

All three time Cindy Brady won the Pats had an elite defense.

I don't know that Sanchez will ever achieve that level but to say he has shown no signs that he might one day is disingenuous at best.

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