PFSIKH Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 It is odd that so many other pitchers are having similar decreasing velocity issues. Or, maybe the proliferation of registering radar readings and documenting them is too much of a rage. Maybe this has always gone on, and pitchers need to work themselves out of "mediocre fastball syndrome". Hard to know. And power numbers have steadily been going done. What could be the cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 From what I've read this disease is the same thing that put Jeremy Bonderman out of baseball. I certainly don't wish that on Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 From what I've read this disease is the same thing that put Jeremy Bonderman out of baseball. I certainly don't wish that on Hughes. Sure you don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Sure you don't Eat it JonE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Looks like Hughes, sadly, IS actually hurt. So it turns out that I was right and SD is an ahole. So nothing's new. So Mike, as I asked you, what exactly is Hughes' injury? Where were you right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 So Mike, as I asked you, what exactly is Hughes' injury? Where were you right? Well I was right about you being an ahole for one. I was also right about Hughes being hurt and the fact that he's not pitching is proof of that. This is a process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Well I was right about you being an ahole for one. I was also right about Hughes being hurt and the fact that he's not pitching is proof of that. This is a process. Why do you keep avoiding the question-what is his injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Why do you keep avoiding the question-what is his injury? http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6468138 No circulatory issue for Hughes. Glad to hear it's not that. Back to the drawing board to figure it all out now, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 Ian Kennedy career 4.14 ERA, 1.272 WHIP Phil Hughes career 4.46 ERA, 1.292 WHIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Ian Kennedy career 4.14 ERA, 1.272 WHIP Phil Hughes career 4.46 ERA, 1.292 WHIP Once again Dierk you are comparing apples to oranges Phil pitches in the filthy AL East, while Kennedy pitches in the AAAA NL West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 Once again Dierk you are comparing apples to oranges Phil pitches in the filthy AL East, while Kennedy pitches in the AAAA NL West Diamondbacks stadium is a bandbox. Ian Kennedy is currently pitching, while Phil Hughes is still DL'ed to to suckiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Diamondbacks stadium is a bandbox. Ian Kennedy is currently pitching, while Phil Hughes is still DL'ed to to suckiness. As a Mess fan with nothing to root for except a Yankee off year, I suppose you need something to hang your hat on. Nevertheless, Kennedy just doesn't have the stuff Hughes has. Kennedy is a 3 or 4 pitcher, whereas Hughes, when healthy can be a 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 As a Mess fan with nothing to root for except a Yankee off year, I suppose you need something to hang your hat on. Nevertheless, Kennedy just doesn't have the stuff Hughes has. Kennedy is a 3 or 4 pitcher, whereas Hughes, when healthy can be a 1 What exactly is Hughes' health issue? He has been a "1" for about 2 months of his career. For you to characterize him as a 1 is extremely generous. One would almost say homerish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 The man in his 1st real season in the rotation won 18 games....I would say that justifies excitement over a starting pitcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 DO you even remember what it's like to have an 18 game winner? Since 1990, no Met pitcher has reached the 18-win mark in a single season and only Al Leiter has won as many as 17 games, doing so in 1998. (Pedro Martinez is the only 17-game winner for the Expos/Nationals franchise over the past two decades, winning that many games in 1997, when he won the National League Cy Young Award.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 The man in his 1st real season in the rotation won 18 games....I would say that justifies excitement over a starting pitcher Sabermetrics guys are LAUGHING at you. SimpleMike is even blushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Scott, Scott, Scott......I feel bad for you. Having to pull Sabermetrics out when discussing wins and losses. You are what you are. Phil Hughes is an 18 game Major League winner. Remember what Bill Parcells used to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 Scott, Scott, Scott......I feel bad for you. Having to pull Sabermetrics out when discussing wins and losses. You are what you are. Phil Hughes is an 18 game Major League winner. Remember what Bill Parcells used to say? I don't EVER want to see you use a stat in support of any baseball debate then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I don't EVER want to see you use a stat in support of any baseball debate then. I rarely debate...Normally I just state facts, and embarrass those that try to take me on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 The level of pathetic hater that is going on this this thread is kinda funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 The level of pathetic hater that is going on this this thread is kinda funny. There you are-we thought you disappeared from this thread. Remember how you were crowing about how Phil Hughes was injured and you just knew it. Good time, good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 There you are-we thought you disappeared from this thread. Remember how you were crowing about how Phil Hughes was injured and you just knew it. Good time, good times. He's out 6-8 weeks for relaxation. Perfectly healthy. BTW who's "we"? Everyone is laughing at you in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 He's out 6-8 weeks for relaxation. Perfectly healthy. BTW who's "we"? Everyone is laughing at you in here. Yup, just like Oliver Perez was last year. DL'ed due to suckiness. Hey, it was YOIU that told us that he HAD to be injured. There was no other way to explain it. Alas, no injury. PredictableMike wrong again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hughes can take his time....we have Super Bartolo and Freddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Yup, just like Oliver Perez was last year. DL'ed due to suckiness. Hey, it was YOIU that told us that he HAD to be injured. There was no other way to explain it. Alas, no injury. PredictableMike wrong again. Listen old timer, I know your mind is probably starting to go but even in the feble rantings of your deranged mind this is a dumb statement. Keep going though. More stuff to make you look dumb with when he comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 Listen old timer, I know your mind is probably starting to go but even in the feble rantings of your deranged mind this is a dumb statement. Keep going though. More stuff to make you look dumb with when he comes back. I never said he wasn't coming back. All I asked was-WHAT IS HIS INJURY THAT YOU WERE SO CERTAIN OF? All I have gotten is name calling and dancing? Which you are not deft at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I never said he wasn't coming back. All I asked was-WHAT IS HIS INJURY THAT YOU WERE SO CERTAIN OF? All I have gotten is name calling and dancing? Which you are not deft at. You're the one name calling. I'm just telling the truth. You are an old decrepit hater with nothing better to do that bring up old threads to try to stir up some crap. It's sad actually. A step down from yelling at kids to get off your lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 You're the one name calling. I'm just telling the truth. You are an old decrepit hater with nothing better to do that bring up old threads to try to stir up some crap. It's sad actually. A stop down from yelling at kids to get off your lawn. Final time, simple question. What is Phil Hughes' injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Final time, simple question. What is Phil Hughes' injury? Who cares...He's not right. In time, he'll get his giddyup going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Final time, simple question. What is Phil Hughes' injury? A dead arm and inflammation in his shoulder. Whats your malfunction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 A dead arm and inflammation in his shoulder. Whats your malfunction? So pretty much what every other pitcher gets, and pitches through. That is not an injury, that is called pitching wear and tear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 So pretty much what every other pitcher gets, and pitches through. That is not an injury, that is called pitching wear and tear Dr Demented over here. Good to know you're such an expert on pitchers' bodies. hahaha. Why aren't you practicing medicine instead of being an a$$ on a messageboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 Dr Demented over here. Good to know you're such an expert on pitchers' bodies. hahaha. Why aren't you practicing medicine instead of being an a$$ on a messageboard? Every spring, most pitchers experience what the trainers and pitching coaches refer to as "dead arm". It is not an injury, it is not an ailment, it is the fatigue of building the arm strength up. Pitchers will normally get hit around for a start or 2 during the period. This is nothing new. It is NOT an injury and normally pitchers battle through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Every spring, most pitchers experience what the trainers and pitching coaches refer to as "dead arm". It is not an injury, it is not an ailment, it is the fatigue of building the arm strength up. Pitchers will normally get hit around for a start or 2 during the period. This is nothing new. It is NOT an injury and normally pitchers battle through it. You're not a doctor, but apparently you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 You're not a doctor, but apparently you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.... Neither are YOU. And YOU claim that he was INJURED. Apparently. you did so without any proof or basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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