Garb Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 ....have put yet another two on injured reserve. Randall Gay and our center, Dan Koppen. So, how many layers of Visa protection do we have left? The fraud monitoring guy? Can Pepsi Machine play DB? If we lose any more metaphors, I'm canceling my Visa account! (stole that line). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 If you took the Pats IR and the Jets IR and threw in a few practice squad players you could field a team that would take the AFC east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted November 16, 2005 Author Share Posted November 16, 2005 What I find perplexing is that, so far anyway, Miami and Buffalo have not been able to take advantage of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 ....have put yet another two on injured reserve. Randall Gay and our center, Dan Koppen. So, how many layers of Visa protection do we have left? The fraud monitoring guy? Can Pepsi Machine play DB? If we lose any more metaphors, I'm canceling my Visa account! (stole that line). How come both teams have been decimated by injuries but one team is 5-4 and leading the AFCE and the other team is 2-7 and in dead last place. What's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 How come both teams have been decimated by injuries but one team is 5-4 and leading the AFCE and the other team is 2-7 and in dead last place. What's the difference? Maybe we should ask BZ or Bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 How come both teams have been decimated by injuries but one team is 5-4 and leading the AFCE and the other team is 2-7 and in dead last place. What's the difference? 3 wins. count your fingers if you have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted November 16, 2005 Author Share Posted November 16, 2005 Tom Brady and a Head Coach with a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Maybe we should ask BZ or Bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Tom Brady and a Head Coach with a clue. There's da winner !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 How come both teams have been decimated by injuries but one team is 5-4 and leading the AFCE and the other team is 2-7 and in dead last place. What's the difference? You still have your QB. Tx just put a jynx on Brady. Next on IR for the pats tom gaydy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 the difference is that you start Tom Brady arguably the best player in the league, we peddle out QB slop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 the difference is that you start Tom Brady arguably the best player in the league, we peddle out QB slop. So out of all 53 guy on a roster the QB is really that important? The Jets haven't lost jack on defense while the pats have been decimated up and down thier roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 You still have your QB. EB, I thought football was the ultimate "team" sport. Are you saying that "one" player out of a roster of 53 is the difference between 5-4 and 2-7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 So out of all 53 guy on a roster the QB is really that important? The Jets haven't lost jack on defense while the pats have been decimated up and down thier roster. Yep just ask anyone here. That's why the Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer and the Bucs with Brad Johnson....oh wait...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Yep just ask anyone here. That's why the Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer and the Bucs with Brad Johnson....oh wait...... Horrible comparison....Brad Johnson was great that year. 22 TDS to 6 INTs. Just because that Bucs defense was awesome people assume that the offense went along for the ride. 22 TDs to 6 INTs is awesome weather people want to open their eyes and realize it or not. Oh, and not to mention a 62% completion percentage. Dilfer on the other hand had 12 TDS to 11 INTs. He managed games while the defense got the wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Mac Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Oh please, you've lost Matt Light what will you do now? We cut that dude 10 years ago and our 7th string QB is better than Flutie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Oh please, you've lost Matt Light what will you do now? We cut that dude 10 years ago and our 7th string QB is better than Flutie. That's pretty good Jumba. And losing Dan Koppen for the year means nothing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 one day you patsie fans will regret letting Kingsbury get away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 EB, I thought football was the ultimate "team" sport. Are you saying that "one" player out of a roster of 53 is the difference between 5-4 and 2-7? STFU you ******* moron You knw what is going on....Pats without Brady and Flutie are 2=7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 STFU you farging moron You knw what is going on....Pats without Brady and Flutie are 2=7 Yep, Flutie's 3 handoff's against the Colts are the reason the Pats are 5-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 How come both teams have been decimated by injuries but one team is 5-4 and leading the AFCE and the other team is 2-7 and in dead last place. What's the difference? and how come you will always be an antagonizing jerk-off, no matter what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 and how come you will always be an antagonizing jerk-off, no matter what? Thanks for the compliment 13. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 and how come you will always be an antagonizing jerk-off, no matter what? frankly 13... i find most of tx's stuff stale and boring and repetitive ... kind of like a gnat... hey i think i just found a new title for Tx...simple but to the point... gnat! dont let him bother you, 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 frankly 13... i find most of tx's stuff stale and boring and repetitive. And song lyrics make a football message board envigorating and exciting. Quick Max, the Jets front office is on line 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 And song lyrics make a football message board envigorating and exciting. Quick Max, the Jets front office is on line 2. buzzzzzzzzz....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 buzzzzzzzzz....... You do both realize that there is a strong underlying sexual tension existing between both of you, don't you? :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted November 16, 2005 Author Share Posted November 16, 2005 Do GG and TX understand that they have ruined a perfectly relevant and witty thread? No smilies needed when being truthful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Do GG and TX understand that they have ruined a perfectly relevant and witty thread? No smilies needed when being truthful. he started it! uhhhhh ms. chick pea, smilies are needed 95% of the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Any Pats or Jets fan who thinks NE would have a winning record without Brady is kidding themselves. And yes, the QB is the most important position on any team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Any Pats or Jets fan who thinks NE would have a winning record without Brady is kidding themselves. And yes, the QB is the most important position on any team. QB is not the most important position on the team. The game is won upfront in the trenches. That is the reason the pats can field guys off the street in thier secondary and still be effective. Anyone can bump a WR and play the flats if the defensive front is getting preasure. Just as anyone (see Sam Gado) can come from the practice squad and run through wide open holes. The Jets are and have been getting jacked up on the O-line and D-line since week one and have not sustained major injuries there until recently. It is because of a new scheme, preperation and lack of coaching. The Jets would still be a servicable team if they could run the ball and stop the run. Neither of which they could do since the begining of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QB is not the most important position on the team. The game is won upfront in the trenches. That is the reason the pats can field guys off the street in thier secondary and still be effective. Anyone can bump a WR and play the flats if the defensive front is getting preasure. Just as anyone (see Sam Gado) can come from the practice squad and run through wide open holes. The Jets are and have been getting jacked up on the O-line and D-line since week one and have not sustained major injuries there until recently. It is because of a new scheme, preperation and lack of coaching. The Jets would still be a servicable team if they could run the ball and stop the run. Neither of which they could do since the begining of the season. Correct and the Jets offensive line AND QB's have went down. Those positions are not simply plug and play ala a secondary. If the line was decent and Fiedler doesn't go down, we are in the mix for the division. If the Pats didn't have their QB moving the chains and producing drives that keeps the defense off the field occassionaly they'd be much worse then they already are defensively this year which by the way is horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Correct and the Jets offensive line AND QB's have went down. Those positions are not simply plug and play ala a secondary. If the line was decent and Fiedler doesn't go down, we are in the mix for the division. If the Pats didn't have their QB moving the chains and producing drives that keeps the defense off the field occassionaly they'd be much worse then they already are defensively this year which by the way is horrific. The Pats starting and back up O-Lineman have missed more time than the Jets this year. Therefor the Jets have no excuse for not sustaining a drive. Remember a guy named Ray Lucas? or how about Trent Dilfer, or Doug Williams. QB is not the most important position. That was your point and you are infact wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 RS....out of curiosity what in your opinion would the Pats record without Brady and Flutie be? Same question for Jets with Fiedler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 So out of all 53 guy on a roster the QB is really that important? in a word - YES the QB touches the ball on every offensive play. Every time there is a completed pass it comes from his hands. He calls the plays in the huddle, more than that he looks in everyone's eyes and let's the team know whether they are gonna win or lose that day. When he is in practice you can look at your QB and determine how good you will be that year. It's a game of inches and confidence is paramount. You can take 10 schleps put them with tom brady and they will be more effective than a team of all-pros with Brooks Bollinger. More than that - if the left guard or the wide reciever misses an assignment or makes a mistake there's a chance either no one will notice or someone else will pick up the slack - when the QB makes mistakes everyone knows, there is no one to pick up the slack and it can be the death of a team. a great QB makes everyone around them look great. A bad QB is something even great players cannot overcome. and for those that bring up Dilfer and Johnson make no mistake these guys were leaders and they were good enough to win. They weren't great but they didn't have to be in the light of the HOF caliber defenses on the other side of the ball. Also it goes without saying these men are on a different level than Street free agent Vinny and Brooks last man standing Bollinger. They were starters. They had talent. These men were game managers that didn't kill their teams with mistakes. That's important. Also they are the exception not the rule. The rule is you need a great QB to win the Super Bowl and he better be a pocket QB not a runner. QB is by far the most important position on the field, which is why in most draft years the top QB in the draft pool is also the first player taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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