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  1. This has always been expected. To make the trade happen with the cap the Jets deferred all of Rodgers money to 2024 but with camp around the corner they have to come to some resolution. The pay cuts likely have to happen for the Jets to deal with some of the salary cap fallout and to make room in the budget for a Williams extension as the Jets are already on the high end of their normal spending patterns. Why the Jets wait so long on some of these moves is anyone's guess. There is some logic in trying to force through a pay cut in the summer but it leaves such a bad taste around the league with the team when most do this stuff in free agency or right after the draft.
  2. Its very hard to have sustained success in the NFL without a franchise QB. Even when our team was at its most recent peak (2009-2010) the peak lasted all of two years because Sanchez wasnt good enough to cover for the fact that the GM didnt bat over 700 anymore in the draft and free agency. If you dont have the QB you basically have to do everything perfect from coaching to drafting to pinpointing the right free agents. It can work in the short term with a passable QB like Foles the one year in Philly but you have to have a lot of faith in the group to go that path. I dont think the history of Saleh and Douglas would lead me to think that they have the ability to put together that two year run with a mid grade QB. In three years of drafting Douglas hit a home run on the two guys this year, got a good lineman in AVT in 2020, and has some potential with Hall and Johnson. Most everything else has been pretty bland. Williams was pre Douglas. JFM was a good claim. DJ Reed a good signing that will likely regress next year. I certainly don't think Saleh has done anything in these two years that would make you think he is like a Shanahan where the coaching is clearly making a difference. The Jets have been prepared to play this year and there is merit in that but on Sunday I would not say that the staff is an advantage over the opponent. You need him to be that if you are going to go all in with random guys at QB.
  3. The O-line has been a sore point for the whole year. They have a high reliance on some older guys and that certainly has the injuries that come with it. I dont think the Jets really ever expected that Becton would be the guy this year but they were hoping to get some time out of him. Tomlinson has been disappointing and that has probably been one of the bigger things but its been lost in the shuffle of the injuries. Fant has gone back to being the Seahawks version when healthy enough to play. I think when you look at the future the Jets probably need to find a left tackle in the draft at some point over the next two drafts and lower their cost at center. They can slide AVT back to guard next year which will lock that spot down and hopefully that can help cover for spending down at RT, whether its Mitchell or some veteran off the street. I think the team probably has to steer away from having to 30+ year old tackles making $10M+ a year in the future.
  4. I cant really figure it out. There are some minor contract reasons but pretty minor and most would be gone now. Maybe if Wilson got hurt again they would rather see White come in and see if there is anything there rather than trotting out Flacco in the middle of a game? If White stunk you would probably go back to Flacco as starter. Id think the receivers are good with Flacco since they threw the ball so much with him under center.
  5. I think the issue with the Jets offense is that there is no real fundamental game plan that has a chance of working. When the Jets dont pop off big plays in the run game they seem to get away from it which certainly happened here. They are petrified of Wilson throwing the game away so they wind up playing a completely horizontal passing game. Problem is Wilson is so bad that you cant sustain anything playing that way either. You are still taking the risk of the Wilson mess ups and there is no reward there. You have a better chance at that point running the ball or taking shots. I think that probably gets to the issues of G. Wilson's problems with the offense where he talked about trusting the WRs. The Jets offense has, more or less, only been good when they get big plays. Obviously that means taking on the risk of Z. Wilson but if you can get Wilson in stride on one play or another miracle like Mims come back on the terrible pass on the sideline you are picking up the chunk yardage you need to have a chance given the limitations of the QB. You know Z. Wilson is somewhat athletic and doesnt function in the pocket, so get him outside and let the WRs take a chance on helping him make a play or avoid disaster. Mac Jones is a pretty bad QB. Takes a ton of bad sacks. Doesnt have a great arm. Misses some easy throws. But the Patriots are running a relatively functional NFL offense with him. Its not bombs away by any means but they can throw intermediate routes. They can set up screens that at least travel a bit forward. I think you just want to see them commit to something. They want to call themselves a team that plays "big boy football", then play like that is what you are and stick with the run and see if you can wear the team out and get a few big plays to set up FGs or a TD. IF you dont want to be that at least let the QB try to do something where he can make a play.
  6. There really is no way to defend his play or his development by this coaching staff. He worse than any of the other young guys the Jets have tried and failed to develop. He'll continue to get chances to show he can play at this level and maybe he will improve but his instincts are so bad and it doesnt seem that the coaching sinks in because I cant believe any staff would instruct him to do the things he does. But the play itself is indefensible at this moment. Imagine if he was a 4th round draft pick in his second year in the NFL. Under no circumstance would he have finished the game today as the starter. The team would most likely just bench him from this point forward.
  7. I think this is accurate. The staff is more or less treating him like 2009 Sanchez. Like Sanchez (though this was more 2010 Sanchez) Wilson has gotten away with some real bad decisions under pressure but most of his under pressure stuff is going deep toward the sidelines where its harder to get the int than when he heaves it across his body in the middle of the field. Part of the pressure performance are his instincts. What made him so good in that Titans game last year is what makes him awful at other times. He runs all over the place at the sign of pressure and then tries to find a guy deep. Davis is probably the only player with enough experience to get that and he was out for some of last weeks game. On days when nobody shakes free you get what happened last week. Part of the success of his clean stats are also the scheme. Jets are throwing a ton of screens (25% of his passes are behind the LOS while the NFL average is around 15%) and quick short slants where there is no time for him to consider extending a play or the rush to get there. Not the easiest passes but as long as he doesnt sail them they are safe. My feeling is he has the arm talent to throw the Jets back into a game if he gets a good week. He also probably has the potential to take a game where the team is down 10 and turn it into a down 24 situation on other weeks. He doesnt seem to mind the handcuffs so for now its all working and hopefully he can get coached up on pocket presence and playing in a more structured offense in the future. As of right now I'd say he has the best arm of any of the recent guys the Jets tried to develop. He also has the worst pocket awareness and touch on his passes. They need him to develop since sustainable football is tied to QB play, but for this year they should be able to take him along very slowly and still make the playoffs.
  8. I think you make the QB change or at least plan on it early. There was zero energy from the offense today and some of that comes from the QB. The team was down 20+ points and is running a 16 play drive by dinking and dunking down the field like they were up 10. White may completely stink up the place but at least I think you would see some energy from the team until he implodes. Id put Wilson on the field more just to see if he can spark anything. He had some energy today. No real reason to not activate Mims either. Defense is what it is. We knew safety was thin and it would be a challenge and it was. Dont think they have options there. Saleh seems to get the D to play with some intensity in the first half of games before they just bail once the offense looks like they give up.
  9. Douglas got unlucky with the timing on Becton. He was trying to slow play the Brown situation hoping he would get him on the cheap. It was exactly what they did with Moses last year and it worked there. Moses camp attempted to drum up outside interest and it didnt work and he wound up taking the Jets offer. Maybe they waited too long here. Maybe he also didnt want to send the signal that there was competition for Becton's job or they were worried about his health and figured signing after camp opened with Becton practicing would be fine. I think the bigger issue is that he panicked when Becton went down. That was a very big contract to give in August to a player who had been sitting for months as a free agent. It was the same deal with Kalil years back when he just decided he had to get a name at center. There were plenty of serviceable options available at tackle. but they rushed into it. Hopefully this doesnt turn into another Osemele situation.
  10. As of now I dont think anyone would label him as a good coach. Last year the game looked way too big for him. I think he and the staff were also unprepared for how bad Wilson would be as a rookie. All that being said the team is now made up more in the manner that he would like it to be. He got to beef up the o-line, add another back to the mix, have a few different receiver types on the team, and add more to his defense. So I think you hope for the best here and see how it goes over the course of the season.
  11. I don't think anyone has much of a handle on JD at this time. We probably will get a better idea by the end of the season because there is little reason for the Jets to be less than a 7 win team if he is doing a good job. A few observations His biggest strength has been the way he has played his trades of veteran players. I'm not sure anyone has been more successful in pedaling away guys with no future in NY and getting a good return than Douglas. He falls into the group who places far too much emphasis on draft status for question mark players. This is why they have brought in these former 1st round underperformers. In that same light he puts a ton of emphasis on the draft grades they are giving individual players which has led to the trade ups. This is similar to the Maccagnan approach. He wont get fleeced on a trade up but is putting a lot of stock in "his board". He has had shortcomings in dealing with agents. There are times when he probably should not speak publicly about certain things as he has had a few fire back saying its a downright lie. That doesnt matter if you are a winning team but it costs you in free agency when you have a bad reputation. I believe his approach also runs in line with the last successful GM the team had (Tannenbaum) where he does work closer with the coach in selecting players. The negative on this is that I think they kind of abandoned 2021 because Saleh wasnt familiar enough with the roster so they tried to piece it together with a bunch of one year deals and very limited upside rookies. They were much more aggressive this year because I think the coach had far more input as to what he wanted for the team FWIW I dont think there is much merit to the "it takes 4 years to build a winner" takes. The Bills had a record amount of dead money while purging the team from a really bad run by their GM. They made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and twice with the version of Josh Allen that was closer to Mitch Trubisky than the guy who wears the Allen jersey now. Obviously it is all about finding the right QB but thus far the teams the Jets have put together have been poor in almost every facet of the game. That's not all on Maccagnan and Gase. Wilson was a disaster last season but there was little competency in any other aspect to hide just how bad the QB position was.
  12. Right now Moore and AVT look as if they are the only two building block long term types on the offense. Carter is fine but you dont build around a back and they are at this point more or less a dime a dozen. Becton is far too injury prone to be considered a sure thing. We should know by next year if Wilson has a chance or will just be another in a long line of Jets QB flops.
  13. I dont think it would happen even if there was a great prospect this year but they should. That goes for just about any team that doesnt have a sure QB under center. The main reason teams could not swap out from 1st round QBs in the past was because of the contracts. That doesnt exist but every GM in the NFL is convinced you cant have competition at the position until the QB proves he sucks at which point they just do something desperate to try to salvage a job.
  14. This is such nonsense that the other GMs "didnt have a plan' or try to rebuild. Did their plans work? No they did not. But to claim they had no plan is insulting. Idzik tore the team apart into a rebuild far more than Joe Douglas has. Idzik probably went too far and alienated people in the building and the fanbase. The job was just too big. Maccagnan's first year he did what ownership wanted and everyone was in love with him for it. He did attempt to rebuild as well first with Hackenberg and then with Darnold. His strategy was to build a team via defense in the draft and keep getting enough cap space every two years or so to make you think he was a cap mastermind and forget that the signings in free agency all stunk. Douglas is now trying to build with Wilson as a QB and rather than defense he is focusing more on offense in particular the O-line. His FA signings on the line have been poor. He traded up for AVT and has to hope that Becton will ever be healthy. Mims is a bust. Moore looks good. He's done a good job of trading away Mac players he did not want for draft picks including a great job of trading Adams. His FA run has not been good but they havent dipped their toe in the type of FAs that blew up for Maccagnan. Unless ownership demands otherwise I would guess they will just simply linger in the $5 to $10M a year range for FAs and keep spinning their own draft picks who bust for draft assets until they feel the QB is good which from the way they talk they think will be 2023. The team is on track for back to back number 2 picks in the draft. Thats not a sign that something is "clearly working" because if it was teams like the Lions and Jaguars would be perennial contenders. Doesnt mean it wont work but there is nothing to illustrate a team that is working the way the Bills were when they flipped their organization. But to pretend that the Jets fan base has never seen this is ridiculous. Anyone over the age of 10 has seen this here multiple times. The excuse meter out of the staff is off the charts. They havent played well. They are atrocious on defense. They have failed with a few QBs on offense. Just be straight and say that this hasnt been what they had hoped for and that they will expect changes next year. Dont just throw out comments about how "Josh Allen got it in year 3" and "look at the Cardinals in year 3".
  15. This is going to be rough for Douglas if Wilson struggles and the team continues to look inept this year. Realistically rookie struggles should be accepted but its just a weird spot because the team has been bad for so long. They have had no plan since 2013 and you cant expect everyone to be ok with "just wait until next year" when you have been hearing that for 8 of the last 9 years. At some point you have to put a product on the field that looks competent. He's probably not going to get the ultra kid gloves treatment that Maccagnan got as MM was pretty well liked by people who covered the team and those outside. Right now there is a lot of negativity towards the Jets operations around the league. Im not sure how specific it is to JD but hes the guy in charge so he is going to get the brunt of it. But its out there from agents, players, and other team personnel and when you have that its going to lead to more negativity on the GMs performance. I dont believe he will be fired after this year but I wouldnt discount it if things get loud enough by the end of the year if they dont turn this around somewhat. Woody will need to ask himself if they want to risk JD using multiple 1s and a ton of cap space next year. Screw that up and you just screw over the next GM too.
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