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    • List of quarterbacks taken in the first round since 2014: 2023 Pick 1: Bryce Young (Panthers) Pick 2: C.J. Stroud (Texans) - Texans got to the playoffs Pick 4: Anthony Richardson (Colts) Too soon to tell, but Stroud and the general improvement to the Texans roster got them to the playoffs. They'd be feeling pretty good about their Stroud selection. Richardson looked promising but got injured early in the season. Young is on a dumpster fire of a roster at the Panthers and it's hard to work out whether he's good or not at this stage. 2022 Pick 20: Kenny Pickett (Steelers) Only one quarterback taken in the first round, and that was the Steelers taking Pickett from Pitt. Turned out that Pickett wasn't as good as the Steelers thought and then chucked a wobbly when the Steelers traded for Wilson. 2021 Pick 1: Trevor Lawrence (Jaguars) Pick 2: Zach Wilson (Jets) Pick 3: Trey Lance (49ers) Pick 11: Justin Fields (Bears) Pick 15: Mac Jones (Patriots) Five quarterbacks taken in the first round and they range from god-awful (Wilson) to average (Lawrence). Lance is holding a clipboard in Dallas, Fields will hold a clipboard at Pittsburgh and who knows what happens with Jones and Wilson next season. Lawrence is guaranteed to start with the Jaguars but that's a mediocre roster and a franchise without a history of excelling. 2020 Pick 1: Joe Burrow (Bengals) Pick 5: Tua Tagovailoa (Dolphins) Pick 6: Justin Herbert (Chargers) Pick 26: Jordan Love (Green Bay) Bengals lost a Super Bowl to the Rams with Burrow at quarterback and haven't been back to the Super Bowl since (the Bengals lost to the Bills in the AFC Championship Game in 2022 and then didn't make the playoffs in 2023, thanks partly to Burrow being injured for most of the 2023 season).  Dolphins went all-in with Tua to try to get to the playoffs, only to get blown out in 2023. They're in cap hell, so not expecting them to repeat. Herbert was arguably held back by the nimrod in charge of the Chargers. Now with Harbaugh as his head coach, he's probably got a better chance, albeit he's going to have to carry the load a bit more since the Chargers are rebuilding their offensive side of the roster. Green Bay took the gifts from the Jets and used savvy drafting to put pieces around Jordan Love. He's not got a hell of a lot of experience as a quarterback, despite entering his fourth season, so it's hard to tell whether he's got what it takes to take the Packers back to the Super Bowl. 2019 Pick 1: Kyler Murray (Cardinals) Pick 6: Daniel Jones (Giants) Pick 15: Dwayne Haskins (Commanders) Murray has only had one winning season as quarterback of the Cardinals (2021, when they went 9-5). The Cardinals made it to the wild card round in 2021, but got destroyed by the Rams 34-11, who went on to win the Super Bowl that year. The Giants regretted giving the extension to Jones almost immediately after giving it to him, while Haskins tragically passed away a couple of years ago. 2018 Pick1: Baker Mayfield (Browns) Pick 3: Sam Darnold (Jets) Pick 7: Josh Allen (Bills) Pick 10: Josh Rosen (Cardinals) Pick 32: Lamar Jackson (Ravens) Rosen flamed out of the league after one season. Darnold never got it together with the Jets and has bounced around the league. He'll hope he can put the lessons he learned under Shanahan at the 49ers to good use with the Vikings. Mayfield seems to have found a home with the Buccaneers, but they're in that no-man's land of not being good enough to challenge for a Super Bowl but not being bad enough to add the truly elite talent through the draft. Josh Allen has had opportunities to get to the Super Bowl but has failed to grasp them, mostly because of the fact he's had to play against Patrick Mahomes to do so. Jackson always seems like he is on the cusp of leading the Ravens to the Super Bowl, but has never quite managed to get them there. 2017 Pick 2: Mitchell Trubisky (Bears) Pick 10: Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs) Pick 12: DeShaun Watson (Texans) Trubisky is a bona fide bust. Mahomes is a bona fide Hall of Fame quarterback even if he retired tomorrow. Watson looked like he could challenge Mahomes for the title of best quarterback out of this draft, but since being traded to the Browns, he looks like a mediocre quarterback being paid a bucketload of cash. 2016 Pick 1: Jared Goff (Rams) Pick 2: Carson Wentz (Eagles) Pick 26: Paxton Lynch (Broncos) This is the infamous Christian Hackenberg draft, and thanks to the Jets taking Hackenberg to pair him with Geno Smith (drafted in 2013), the Jets decided that they were set at quarterback and didn't need to look at Mahomes or Watson in the 2017 draft.  Goff, of course, went to the Super Bowl in 2019 with the Rams under Sean McVay but Bill Belichick's defence shut down the Rams and the Rams cracked in the last quarter to allow the Patriots to score 10 unanswered points and win the Super Bowl 13-3.  The Rams traded Goff to the Lions as part of the package for Matthew Stafford. In 2023, Goff and the Lions made it to the NFC Championship game where they led the 49ers 24-7 at half-time but the Lions then gave up 27 unanswered points to lose 34-31. Wentz led the Eagles well until he got injured with Nick Foles coming in to replace him. Foles and the Eagles went on to beat the Patriots, including the Philly Special, in 2018. Wentz had accumulated 3,296 yards and 33 touchdowns that season, against seven interceptions, before he was injured on 10 December 2017. 2015 Pick 1: Jameis Winston (Buccaneers) Pick 2: Marcus Mariota (Titans) Only two quarterbacks taken in the first round of the 2015 draft, albeit with the first two picks in the draft. Winston is a career backup now, and Mariota is lucky if he even gets a job in the league at this stage of his career. 2014 Pick 3: Blake Bortles (Jaguars) Pick 22: Johnny Manziel (Browns) Pick 32: Teddy Bridgewater (Vikings) All three quarterbacks are out of the league. Bortles had a purple patch of a season in 2017 under Nathaniel Hackett as his OC, where the Jaguars got to the AFC Championship Game, but they lost to the Patriots that year. Bortles reverted back to being a pumpkin and was never as close again to making a Super Bowl (let alone winning one) since. Manziel was a head case. Bridgewater is a case of "what might have been". He led the Vikings to the NFC North title in 2015, but the VIkings lost to the Seahawks in the Wild Card game 10-9 after Blair Walsh missed a field goal attempt that would have given the Vikings the victory. During pre-season practice ahead of the 2016 season, Bridgewater tore his ACL and dislocated his knee joint and missed the entirety of the 2016 season, leading the Vikings to trade for Sam Bradford. 
    • If he is we should be doing everything in our ability to trade up for Nabers then.
    • I have a strong feeling Odunze will be the 2nd WR off the board. 
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