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    • Bad data in ===> bad results out. I don’t see drawing any success rate conclusions from this that’d greatly influence who I’d pick & pass on in a given slot. Only thing useful is the bust rate, which suggests that trading down gives you a better (extra) shot at a good starter, with the added opportunity for multiple good starters instead of one, at the expense of missing out on a sub-50% shot for a special prospect you presumably won’t find at #25. i.e. if there’s no trade for Watson and someone else is throwing another 1st rounder or more our way to move down a few slots from 2, and another 1st to drop down to 15, then take it (under the assumption one will bust or semi-bust anyway). If people are doubting the value of Watson for 3 first round picks as it is, because the team has too many present holes, then that goes doubly for passing up opportunities of trading down to get 3 1sts instead of using one on a second LT that relegates/demotes one to RT. 
    • I don’t totally hate it but dropping out of the top 10 requires more from SF in my opinion. As others have said Dee Ford is a Bradley McDougald level throwaway that likely doesn’t help much, he’s a better player than McDougald and would immediately be our best edge in years but he’s just as likely to get cut and be available anyway. We are picking No 2 overall and I’m only dropping to 12 if I am absolutely fleecing them, I want their 1st round picks in 21, 22 AND 23 plus the 21 2nd rounder and 22 3rd rounder..throw in Ford and then maybe then I pull the trigger. Meanwhile a team desperate for QB help watches as 4 go in the first 7 picks!
    • Prob with AP and PB measurements as well. There aren’t enough AP slots to go around to cover all the great players. A top 5-8 QB may never be AP, but you’re plenty happy with the pick. Meanwhile now you get 2nd and 3rd alternates making the PB. Derek Carr is a PB QB in 2017 while in 2018 Dak is (by this measurement) no better than Ryan Leaf. Rookies & second year players (particularly starting QBs) get graded on a curve in PB voting as well  Was Winston’s rookie season really worthy of PB honors? Bridgewater was also a PBer in 2015 while Brees and Cousins were deemed less worthy). If Trubisky is a backup for the next 5 years and then plays in the PB as an alternate in 2027 that’ll be his 2nd PB and thus (using the above methodology) he’ll be deemed a successful pick for Chicago taking him not only with a top 10 pick, but ahead of Mahomes and Watson at that. A 12-year full starter with 3-4 deserved PB seasons is a better pick than an overdrafted borderline starter who gets benched for poor play multiple times yet is twice elevated to an undeserved PB alternate; but they’re judged the same here. Also lost in it is disparate impact of drafting a bust top 10 QB. He cripples his team with multiple wasted years of mulligans and showing patience and such, and there’s a higher probability a team used another higher pick or two (in the Jets’ most recent case, three) to trade up to get him in the first place.
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