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Ruh ruh, Kleckbot switching to First Names Mode. Him no happy.

LOL, holy crap. You're nuts. You're all ******* nuts. It's his 3rd year and he's getting better.

I think it's time to close the books on Sanchez's alleged potential to be an elite QB. He is what he is--a streaky, inaccurate, tough little dude. That's it. No QB in the league has a more comfortable situation to play in--an elite defense and special teams guaranteeing him great field position and opportunities, to go along with a good OL and high-end receiving corps. And, yet, the offense is a consistent ****fest. We can blame Scottenheimer, sure, but it's Sanchez out there still throwing INT's that rookies shouldn't even be throwing and missing receivers that rookies shouldn't miss, in Year Three. This is not to say that Sanchez isn't a good QB. Obviously, you can win with him. But, we have to stop deluding ourselves into believing that there's some great, as-yet untapped pool of talent under the surface here. He's not, nor will he ever be, a top-10 QB. He's basically the reincarnation of Steve Beurlein.

Sunday - 1:00 PM - CBS - From JetLife Stadium. New York Jets: (1-0) vs Jacksonville Jaguars: (1-0) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck14k1DVLAk Jets look to keep momentum going as Jags visit New York. (By Associated Press: NFL.Com: http://www.nfl.com/g...eview=fullstory) The last time the New York Jets and Jacksonville Jaguars met, Mark Sanchez and Maurice Jones-Drew played large roles in an exciting game. The health -- and protection -- of each could be a factor when the teams meet again Sunday at MetLife Stadium. Sanchez threw for 212 yards and a touchdown in the ninth start of his career, and Jones-Drew ran for 123 yards and a score Nov. 15, 2009, when the Jaguars won 24-22 on a Josh Scobee field goal as time expired. It marked the sixth victory in eight all-time meetings for Jacksonville (1-0) over New York (1-0). Though Sanchez and Jones-Drew each believe they're healthy enough to play at a high level Sunday, their respective teams have taken precautions. Sanchez underwent tests for a concussion after being sacked four times and dropped to the turf numerous others in last Sunday's 27-24 victory over Dallas. He finished 26 for 44 with two TDs and an interception, though coach Rex Ryan has been adamant the Jets need to protect their quarterback against the Jaguars. "We need to do a better job of protecting him and we need to be able to run the ball better, so I think that kind of goes hand-in-hand," Ryan said. Sanchez passed the tests and said he feels healthy. "I feel good," Sanchez said. "Felt like we just had a physical game and the training staff just wanted to be extra cautious and make sure I'm doing well, especially at the beginning of the season so I can make it through the long haul." It's the same reason Jacksonville coach Jack Del Rio kept Jones-Drew on the sidelines for most of the fourth quarter in last week's 16-14 win over Tennessee. The veteran running back is coming off surgery to repair a torn meniscus in January, and Del Rio decided to rest Jones-Drew after he rushed 24 times for 97 yards and had an opening-drive, 21-yard touchdown run. Del Rio had Jones-Drew on a play count -- something the star back didn't know. "He's so competitive and he's not happy about it," Del Rio said. "But that's going to happen as we monitor and try to keep him to a certain number of reps as we go throughout this season." Jones-Drew is confident he's healthy enough to play regularly without having to be monitored. "Everything is going to work out at the end of the day," he said. "I was upset. I expressed myself. That's what I do. I'm not one to hide them. If you have a problem, you have to tell them. We're working on fixing it. That's all that matters." The Jets have some issues in the backfield as well. Their 45 yards rushing last week were their fewest since gaining 41 on Sept. 22, 2008, against San Diego. New York may again have trouble getting the running game going against a Jacksonville defense which allowed only 43 yards rushing against the Titans -- the fewest since giving up 32 on Dec. 18, 2008, against Indianapolis. Shonn Green was ineffective for New York, rushing 10 times for 26 yards. The burden may fall on Sanchez again to help guide the offense, which hasn't scored a first-quarter touchdown in 16 straight games. Though the Jaguars shut out Tennessee in the opening quarter last week, they ranked 27th in 2010 in first-quarter points allowed. "Nobody thinks we're going to come out and go three-and-out," Sanchez said. "At least, I hope they don't. But that's not the kind of team we have. We've been a slow-starting kind of team for 16 games or whatever. Something's got to change. Maybe it's our attitude." Sanchez seemed to make a connection with Plaxico Burress, who played his first regular-season game since 2008. Burress had four catches for 72 yards and a touchdown. "It feels like I never left," Burress said. Jacksonville's run-centered offense took off some of the pressure last week for Luke McCown, who was making his first start since 2007. He finished 17 of 24 for 175 yards but lost a fumble. McCown hasn't thrown a touchdown pass in seven games since Dec. 30, 2007, when he had two against Carolina while playing for Tampa Bay. Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press J-E-T-S Jets! Jets!! Jets!!!

If Sanchez is what he is... I guess he's a winner. Career record of 26-14, which includes a 4-2 road playoff record, where Sanchez has gone 95/157, 1,155 yards, 9 TD's/3 INT's with an average QB rating of 97.45 after 6 career playoff games. Yeah, you nay-saying "experts" are 100% correct, Sanchez will "never" become a top 10 QB. He's also shown "zero improvement" this season, even though after only two games, he's gone 43/66, 517 yards, 4 TD's/3 INT's with a QB rating of 87.25. After only two games, he's on pace for a 344/528, 4,136 yards, 32 TD's/24 INT's type of season. He'll continue to get better with time, just like he's done from his rookie to sophmore season and it's no secret that he's improved during his 3rd year when compared to his 2nd season last year. Keep in mind, he's done all of this, this season... With an offensive line that's been awful. But not as awful as some of you fans.

My thoughts exactly. What's with all the absolutes around here?

Well, no..but they seem to think, because they only see guys from other teams on ESPN highlights, that nobody else makes any mistakes, he's the only guy to throw a pick or an incomplete pass. What gets me is that Jet fans, out of anybody, should recognize an anemic offense or a QB that has hit his wall due to physical limitations, and I'm telling you, this ain't one of them. I remember some painful showings by an offense in times past that would make this look like the greatest show on the planet. For once we have a QB that doesn't have either stone feet or a rag arm or is too short or blah blah. And on top of that, the dude IS smart, high iq, he's a leader, the team respects him, and I've heard plenty of his interviews now, and he says all the right things.....so far. He's excited. He's a competitor. They say he's boring. His model "friends" say all he cares about is football. These are all pluses in the world of Ryan Leaf, who was a nightmare out of college, or Kyle Orton who has more embarrassing photos out there than some fraternity pledge, Jay "cant smile" Cutler, Ben "the pervert" Rothlesberger, Brett "the pervert" favre, the twitter-junkies like TO and OC..............He has every reason to go running around NY with a Tom Brady haircut,banging Lady Gaga or something, shooting Mangold in a nightclub on accident........ There is only one thing, besides injury of course (knock on wood, no jinx), that can ruin this kid's inevitable rise to the elite, and that is the NY fans and the NY media sucking his spirit dry. Let this kid do what he does.....win football games, and if he trips a couple of times doing it....so what.

So you really can't see the connection between zero front-side pass protection, and how it exacerbates the struggles of an already erratic QB? I don't expect Sanchez to be perfect, and those of us that do are unrealistic, however when he can see his pocket collapse time after time on the front-side (where he can see the pressure coming) it is going to have a negative impact on his play, as it did today. If. He feels hurried, he will lock onto receivers, make hurried throws, etc. Just about every QB in football is a product of his offensive line... Our O-line looked awful today. Only the casual fans who really don't understand the game will be carrying on about Sanchez after the way today went. The O-line killed our rushing attack and nearly got Sanchez killed today. What as once our strength has become a liability.

Jets fans are pathetic.

You must have freakishly small hands!!!

Sanchez. He showed a ton of upside today.

The earlier you bury a player here, the more points you get.

Let's be honest, gotta give a gameball to Luke McCown.

32 points

same old jets fan go follow the packers

Totally. We dominated the Luke McCown led Jaguars offense without their best weapon. We've definitely arrived.

Exactly. The only times our offense/Sanchez have struggled today is when there has been ridiculous front-side pressure. Hunter not doing his job. The comments by some JN regulars in this thread about Sanchez being "trash" really reveals the limited understanding they have of how this game works. Pretty amusing to see them make the same dense comments repeatedly.

Excellent post brother man. Excellent post. Great game out of the Jets today. 29 point lead during the 4th quarter? Can we rest our starters yet? This game is OVER.

He threw another TD to Keller. With no Plax. As I have inscribed below, Sanchez has a pro bowl year this year. period. It is a beautiful thing to behold, unless of course you take the position that he sucks and watch the year through that prism. subconsciously rooting against your own happiness. lol

Good call.

The defense took off last week so they should be rested.

Yeah, the fact that Sanchez no vision is irrelevant. The team wins despite him.

The offense scored 7 pts, Schotty had nothing to do with the safety.

Sack for a safety.

I wonder if hill is the first player to get a "C'MON MAN" without even playing ?

just for the record, belicheat embarrased the league with his profanity, he is a loudmouth blowhard attention whore

Mason needs to get a life. Why can't he just bring his lunchpail to work, play the game the right way, keep his head down and his mouth shut, and get wired for an entire season so that NFL Network can make a documentary about his life?

I dont care where it is or how much it costs...I will definitely be there to see Manny destroy this POS when Mayweather finally mans up and fights his only real competition.

If Wade Phillips is such an offensive genius, why does he keep getting hired as a defensive coordinator?

Thanks. Well, good night JetNation. I can't wait for 10:00, that's when I'll start watching all the different NFL countdown shows. I may hate ESPN, but I've always loved the ESPN Sunday Countdowns.

Exactly. I started to laugh when he "made it known" that Shotty Jr has "never been offered a head coaching position". Shotty Jr decided to stay with Sanchez and the Jets as OC last offseason. Say what you say about Shotty Jr, but Shotty Jr has our franchise QB in Sanchez developing the right way. He's protected an extremely young Sanchez to a "T" over the past two seasons. He's protected Sanchez behind our run game, offensive line and defense. He deserves credit for that. He seen the inexperience in Sanchez, and instead of throwing Sanchez into the fire, throwing the ball 35+ times per game, he used our run game to protect a raw QB. We set an All-Time franchise record in 2009 for most rushing yards during a single season, we also ranked as a top 5 rushing offense last season. Guess what? Shotty's been the man who's been calling for the run plays. He's also protected Sanchez with the wildcat formation over the years. We've been to the AFC Championship game during consecutive seasons and if anything, all these Shotty Jr harpers, love to harp over the fact that our offense has started off slow during games over the past two years... Well guess what? During the 2nd half of ball games, and especially the 4th quarter... Once Sanchez and Shotty Jr figure out the opposing defense... We've flat out dominated some of the best D's around. This only means one thing, Shotty Jr beats opposing defensive coordinators before it's over and done with. It's not like we're starting off hot, and then getting shut down. It's the other way around... We win with the pressure on. As far as last week... If you wanna blame anyone for anything... Blame Bill Callahan, our offensive lines coach, for not having our offensive line ready for a Rob Ryan, Blitz happy defense, because our offensive line was ugly at times in pass protection; how Shotty Jr harpers wanna blame Shotty Jr for that is beyond me. It's also a FACT that Rex Ryan loves Shotty Jr. Rex has made it known, time and time again... That Shotty Jr has one hell of an offensive mind.

Meh, I don't get what's so bad about what Mason said. He's not wrong. If it was a player saying that to BB, the media would be crucifying the player. Hell, just look at this very "article", which tried to do just that with Mason in this case. How badly did Rex get ripped last year for his language at the team's training camp, when it wasn't even directed at any individuals? The media are a bunch of biased, hypocritical assholes. This isn't exactly news and Mason isn't wrong for pointing it out.

lol. They trotted out a bunch of practice squad corners. No one in the league gets excused more for poor performance than Brian Schottenheimer. Do you think maybe there's a reason he's never been offered a HC job in all the years he's been OC? The guy is mediocre in every sense of the word.

Does anybody else get aggravated when every time at Rex's press conferences Dan Leberfeild starts off his question with "Dan Leberfeild from Jets Confidential" like Rex doesn't know who the a-hole is already.

Look at Deemason85 trying to get his last fifteen minutes of fame in. He's so full of sh*t. But, hey, whatever it takes to get your name in the press. As they say, no such thing as bad publicity. What a tool.

Yea that was the 63-7 loss to Jacksonville-good thing it was blacked out

I posted this response in another thread earlier in the week, but it is applicable here. In my opinion, Schotty being not very good has more to do with his ability to react on the fly than his actual playcalling. By that, I mean that he sticks to his scripts way too long. Understand that there is a very good purpose for scripting plays that goes beyond just trying to score or getting off to a fast start. I've coached a high school offense for 7 years and scripting is a valuable tool in helping to set up what you're going to do for a large part of the rest f the game. What scripting really does is two fold: First, it allows a coaching staff to affirm that a defense is going to react to a specific alignment or formation the way that it expects them to do through their film study for that week. It can help "affirm" that week's game plan very early on in the contest, which is good for the frame of mind of the coach. If he sees the defense is reacting the way he expects, he can be more confident in the plays he's calling, thereby being more aggressive. Secondly, coaches design plays in "series", that is they'll line up in a specific formation or "look", that will generally have have 4 or 5 options off of that same look. A script will force the coach into running the base play for that series, allowing them to see how the defense might react to a particular movement, effectively setting the defense up for a more devasting "option" in that play series later in the game. As I said, scripts can be a very valuable tool during the early parts of a game. However, a script can hinder a team if the playcaller takes too long to establish a "feel for the game", which is something I've said for a long time that Schottenheimer is not very good at. It's not that his playcalling is always bad, it's more that he takes too long to recognize that the defense is doing things that in effect, neutralize his Plan A game plan. Sunday night was a perfect example of that and I pointed it out in the game thread very early on. It was obvious that the Jet game plan was to attack a depleted Dallas secondary down the field right from the start with 5 and 7 drop pass plays. It was also obvious that Dallas knew that, and the as a result, Rob Ryan's defensive game plan was that he was going to zone blitz early and often by bringing 7 and 8 guys, making it very difficult to attack that defense with the run or any down field passes. We saw the result. We couldn't run the ball because Dallas did a great job with their zone blitzes filling the gaps, and their pass rush was swarming Sanchez because of the long drops and the relatively long down the field routes to develop. Now I've never been an NFL playcaller, but football is football, and any offensive coach will tell you that against that kind of front, you need to attack the flank, either by rolling your QB out, or with quick slants, or something I was calling for for about an hour on Sunday night, which is a good old fashioned screen pass, which eventually was called in the last 2 minutes of the half and went for about 30 yards. Hell, why not even put your offense into a "no huddle", which would put much more pressure on the defensive line and not give them 30 or 45 seconds between plays to rest. Now I'm no genius, but it took Schottenheimer almost 28 minutes to alter what he was doing on offense on Sunday night and adjust his offense to what the defense was doing to the Jets in the first half. Even Rex said to the TV interviewer at the end of the half that it took them too long to recognize what the Cowboys were doing on defense and react to it. This is my main complaint with Schottenheimer, specifically his lack of ability to develop a "feel for the game" and alter his plan where necessary. It's a characteristic that every great playcaller, guys like Sean Payton and Norv Turner, has and it's not something you normally develop, you either have it or you don't, and Schottenheimer does not.

.....then never shut up telling us it was the best she ever had and how you had it figured out before you did it and how next time you will change up your strategy and become truly dominate.

Clearly I took the wrong side... Mods, can we bring Visa back?

I'm not either impotent. Welcome to JN Samantha. Just answered your PM and saw this post. I'm going to the game on 12/26 and have a ton of friends with season tickets as well as good connects for the Miller Party Deck - but it will be far too cold for that nonsense by then. It's an epic downer that the Bears game is the day after Christmas. There's a lot of real good people that post here that would have come in for the game had the timing been better. Going to the Detroit game and hopefully Cleveland too. Look forward to chatting with you.