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"This is how much respect I have for the game."

2000 was a rebuilding year, he was just implementing his cheating methods, they hadn't really taken hold yet. He went 11-5 with Matt Friggn' Cassell in 2008 with Brady out. The cheating is what made both of them.

Your organization is, and will be remembered as, Barry Bonds. Everything you believe is of value is worthless. In twenty years, Tom Brady is a punchline.

24 and 12 are wrong. Brady cheats, Joe didn't.

If the Patriots knew the protection scheme, then they'd know how to attack it. The line about how he's "matchup up against the OL in front of him" is short-sighted. If the Patriots knew what plays to expect and/or knew signals for protection schemes, then they most definitely could have schemed for the Pats OL to occupy certain parts of the scheme, while Washington gained advantage in his individual matchup(s). Nobody, except you, is implying that cheating like this magically makes Washington dominant. What it does is it affords the type of advantage that creates mismatches to exploit. Cheating isn't supposed to afford blatant advantages. It's supposed to afford subtle advantages, like never fumbling the flat football and winning the turnover ratio because turnovers often have an immediate impact on victory.

He's got enough money to retire if he wants should he get injured again...if he stays healthy, he'll double it. Smart kid.

Sam Bradford is going to gamble on himself? Ballsy move

I think this really pisses off defenses. He's been getting special treatment for years. You can't breath on Tom Brady without a flag, and god forbid you even get too close to him he'll look for a flag. Now his receivers cry every single incompletion! Have you noticed? Amendola & Edelman ask for flags after every single incompletion. Plus the refs completely ignore the Pats Oline literally hog collaring defenders. Let's hope that sh*t changes this year.

You lost me at host Adam Schein. Sorry.

Just like when Im at any buffet, "I would like all of them please."

..and on the 3rd draw, all the pats fans shout BINGO!

If the Jets season was a game of roulette.... Fitz is like betting on black Geno is like betting on number 7. Good chance they both fail... Geno has a better chance of hitting big.

So many options for a response: The nice simple easy: GFY. The irony: says the guy posting on a rival Jets message board at 3am? The truth: nobody cares about your opinion because you're an idiot and your team is nothing but cheaters who've ruined the NFL The SOJ: he's right, we should be embarrassed The low blow for a troll: you've got mental issues, go suck Brady''s cheating dick The nuh uh you are: you should be embarrassed you root for cheaters. The your mom response: your mom is embarrassed she gave birth to you That's all I got for now. Only a few sips into my coffee.

Geez, at 3:20AM? I hope you visited the message boards of all 30 other NFL teams because there isn't an NFL football fan in this country outside of New England other than Pats fans that doesn't look at your team as nothing more than cheating bastards.

It would have to be the Jets. The Giants are set at TE with Bavaro and Shockey.

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2015-new-england-patriots-1728783368?utm_expid=66866090-52.r5txldOmRkqnbJxnyozIeA.0&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fdeadspin.com%2F It's all 100% true and the writer is a Vikings fan so eat sh*t with that "only Jets fans care about that" nonsense.

Last time I checked a second year rookie with potential was injured.

The Jets base offensive lineup doesn't have a starting TE.

I've started making up names to test them - "Dude, Bobby McGinty was the best Pats LBer ever before Bruschi." And invariably I'll get a "McGinty was my favorite player growing up. I had his jersey!"

Well yeah considering they would all be backwards if he was looking at them through a mirror.

He has played in all 16 games twice in his 5 year career. Maybe he figures that he is due.

Which one is you?

Just ban this POS. Anyone that comes to a board like this trolling should just be banned. Why waste our energy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Troll thinks it's just Jets fans? Yeah, just Jet fans.

Nate Solder is white. Tom Brady is white. Junior Galette is black. This is no coincidence!

If Mo Lewis missed Bledsoe by this much, you never would have heard of me.

Because the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. This isn't math class. Someone who commits 2 infractions is doing more harm than 2 individuals each doing 1. 2 people separately holding just 1 board just have 2 boards. 2 boards leaning against each other form a freestanding shelter. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. The effective punishment of a 5x serial rapist/killer is harsher than than 5 individuals getting caught once (a 100 year sentence is greater than 5 sentences of 20 years each, since the former is a life sentence). A repeat offender is worse than a first-time offender. A false start backs you up 10 yards. Though it's more difficult, one can still get a first down (and it happens all the time). Three false starts on three consecutive possessions can still lead to three scoring drives (or three TDs outright). Three false starts in a row in the same series means you've got 40 yards to go for a first down. From the standpoint of converting a first down, it may as well be 80 yards, because you're punting. Attempt a FG from 46 yards and you're still technically in FG position with a penalty. Get another penalty and now you have to punt. The 2 situations added together are worse than 2 individual occurrences at 2 different times. Even more so if you're kicking into the wind. Three penalties before a long FG (10 yards +10 yards +10 yards) isn't a 30 yard longer FG attempt. 10+10+10 yards further back may be 30 yards back on paper but in reality it might as well be 300 yards further back because no one's kicking a FG 76 yards into the wind. He cheated AND lied right to the TV about the situation AND then destroyed evidence AND was generally uncooperative with the investigation. (Not to mention Goodell knows he was a huge beneficiary of other past cheating). Together, and particularly for such a high profile player/case, that is additively worse than the total of each single thing on its own if spread among multiple players on multiple teams. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. There's a reason the expression is, and has been, so famous.

I only cheated this much. Giselle has a penis, but it's only a little one. That doesn't make me gay right?

Brady isn't Brady without cheating.... just sayin'.

No joke...I am so excited about this game I packed my car already. When I was unpacking from vacation on Sunday I said screw it and put all my Jets stuff in the car. Really can't wait.

as a HC Brady made Beilichick. BB is a complete failure w/o Brady, cheating or not cheating.

I will not lock this thread until MrsLonelyharts shows up.

Come to think of it has anyone ever see a black Patriots fan? I think the whole lot is cockasion.

Loved Brad Baxter BTW...I think he was the first player I'd heard the term "pancake block" used for.

This is not exactly ground breaking or shocking. Brandon Marshall is far from the first guy to say this.

Sewn into a large bag with half a dozen cats, and thrown into a river.

ESPN finds spygate tape of Rams pregame Superbowl walkthrough, Pats* vacate title, Goodell fired

was that just sent from your SM-N915T using tapatalk?

I am ashamed of myself, but other than that it doesn't change my opinion of you as a douche.

Thought the 2nd choice was "Brady gets caught and eaten by a tiger" when I first looked at it. that would be appropriate punishment

You should be embarrassed if you responded to the dipship troll who started the thread.

Geno will get his shot if and only if Fitzpatrick fails in the first four games. If we're winning games, or losing because of factors other than qb play, they're not going to sit Fitzpatrick down just because geno looked pretty good in training camp 7 on 7s. So let's all hope geno doesn't get another shot at the starting gig this season

HOW ABOUT THEM AMAZINS

What gets glossed over the most is them employing a murderer for as long as they did.

I gave you an exact option. Just say the exact thing you want to do and get it over with. Oh, sorry...I meant "thanks Pete, really appreciate the extra mile"

They have ruined it for me. I'm not even mad about this, just kinda disinterested. I have no faith in the outcomes of these games anymore. They are fixed like Boxing. Of course Tom Brady the least athletic starting QB since Chad Pennington is a cheater. What a surprise. Of course he got away with it. I'm done or at least winding down on this stuff. I already called to cancel the Sunday Ticket. I'll watch them if they are on free tv, maybe. But i'll watch college on sats and go golf on Sunday instead. I don't have to support a league that has no integrity.

I agree completely. By the way, I'm gonna miss a meeting in Chicago this afternoon because I just got thrown off an airplane for sending dickpics to this giant maniac I owe money to. F him.

Nah, I agree with Sperm. Pretty sure they decided it was Geno's job before they even saw him in person. Not that that didn't make sense. They knew what their draft prospects were, what their free agent prospects were, and determined that Geno was their best option.

03:20 in the morning and letting a rival fan-base cause you to get emotional enough where you need to sign on to let them know how stupid they are. Yea, that's nothing to be embarrassed about..... like at all....