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  1. Good post, but I think you missed the biggest issue of all: Cons He has lost control of the locker room and it is clear that there is no discipline, no self-respect, and no passion for the game of football or the New York Jets as an organization from the players on the roster. From nasty tweets to media boycott's to admission of being "old" to DL coaches giving one word answers on media day, to no-show performances on MNF, the list is endless, there clearly is a dysfunctional and toxic environment in Florham Park that players and assistants want to demonstrate against and that's o
    9 points
  2. No way. CLE management is useless, but not that useless. If you're trading the #1 pick, you're getting a game-changer, not Jimmy f'ing Garoppolo.
    7 points
  3. "If Jimmy Clausen is not a successful NFL QB, I'm done. That's it. I'm out." -Mel Kiper
    6 points
  4. Woody should just hand the keys to the franchise over to Mel Kiper while he's off in the UK. At least if we're going to suck anyway we can prove this guy doesn't know what the **** he's talking about
    6 points
  5. That roster is a real who's who of people that are gonna lose to Calder.
    5 points
  6. Growing up in Palm Beach and NYC, I've learned how those with both wealth AND class carry themselves. Bragging about how much your wristwatches cost on an internet board is bearded-stockbroker guy in Die Hard Level Douchebaggery. Regardless of whether it's true. Because honestly, aside from 15 year old kids, nobody gives a ****. Just saying.
    5 points
  7. 2010-2014. 5 NFL drafts with a total of 37 picks. STARTERS OFFENSE: 2 1 a 6th round WR (Enunwa) 1 a 3rd round G (Winters) DEFENSE: 3 2 DT's (Mo and Richardson) 1 average (being generous) S (Pryor) PLAYERS STILL ON TEAM (Including those starters) 8 But yet Mac was suppose to turn this team into the Patriots in two years (one of which he was Executive of the Year nominated by the Pro Football Writers Association) and now an alarmingly high number of fans want him replaced. AND the funny thing about it is, we wonder why this team is mired in
    4 points
  8. Just more proof that you guys are the most passionate fans in the world...I just checked and Nov 2016 was the 3rd busiest month in our forums ever. The only two months to beat it? Nov and Dec with Mangini and Favre. Herm Edwards never beat last month. Rex Ryan never beat last month. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Darrelle Revis and Todd Bowles have everyone talking. Pretty impressive since it has been such a tough year on the field. I seriously believe that Jets fans are the most loyal in sports. Sure there are some complaints in with all those posts. But they Jets were winless in November
    4 points
  9. LOL Woody / Multi-millionaire. FWIW, We gave up 4 good seats 3 years after the move to Jersey and never regretted it. Now we buy tix a few times per season or just stay home to boycott a season like this one. If I had a PSL I would be livid.
    4 points
  10. 4 points
  11. By the way, stating that Todd has "held players accountable" makes me question my understanding of the word "accountable". Fitz, worst QB in the league. Todd Bowles reaction? "Ryan is our Quarterback". Revis comes in fat, out of shape, and not giving a crap. Todd's reaction? Keep throwing him out there. Mo Wilk has mailed it in immediately upon signing his deal. Todd's reaction? None. Sheldon Richardson going off the rails, committing personal foul after foul, smoking weed and speeding with a gun and a kid in the car. All good. Just
    4 points
  12. So I was going to write an article. But I figured I would include all of you in the discussion. I don't think Todd Bowles should be fired. If your reply is going to be irate, anger filled and 2 or 3 words calling for him to go, please do that in one of the other 20 threads on that topic. I think Bowles should stay and have next year be the deciding factor. Here are the pros and cons. Cons He was 100% wrong on Ryan Fitzpatrick. From naming him the starter after the last game last year when he wasn't under contract to handing him the minute he showed up right as camp was starti
    3 points
  13. Ape does not have time for teh mafia. Yep.."Hey Glenn, Pete here.. So any who I was sitting back sipping a White Russian, cranking Santana on my Onkyo deck, chilling with only my Sanchez jersey on and stroking my...... Chad Pennington Pez dispenser. Thinking to myself it's been awhile since we internetted. Fat, Twink, Ape, virgin, and Smash all give their best. Fat agree to as long as he wasn't given anything he could eat. Miss you.
    3 points
  14. Darron Lee was selected right where he was "slated" by most draft "experts". You can try and discredit the selection of Leo all you want. A better example of GM's who f*cked up that draft would be the two other teams you listed because they did exactly what you're implying Mac does. They reached on talent and passed on the BPA that provided the most value . This is not "a matter of opinion". You are flat out wrong. We had a bigger need and and the question posed was whether or not he could differentiate BPA/Need/Value. He did. He doesn't "lose" credit because you're mad and n
    3 points
  15. The argument was that he has no idea how to gauge value over need/position/etc. There isn't a universe where what you are saying is correct. We "needed" WR more than DE and passed on Kevin White to take the BPA. Kicking your feet and saying "Leo doesn't count" because you're pissed off at the fact that our team sucks this year and this goes against your feelings doesn't make it true.
    3 points
  16. 3 points
  17. So in other words, no credit for Leo. Blame for a guy who injured himself playing. Gives you the opportunity to make blanket statements that you have no idea have any meaning whatsoever to what he will or wont be. Off a handful of games, most while injurted, with Fitz as his only QB. Congrats. Then some complete nonsense about Lee not turning his head as a way to discredit what is obvious to anyone a talented player with a chance and the usual knock on a guy who hasnt played a snap of NFL football. Nostradamus the GM has spoken. Again, congrats!
    3 points
  18. I've said it many times. They finally have a GM who is focused on finding the long-term solution at QB. He knew it wasn't Geno so he's drafted two QB's, traded and re-signed another to hold the fort, and explored trade possibilities for other significant upgrades according to reports (Glennon, Couisins) There was never a threat of Fitz being here as a long-term starter. The only thing I wanted to see from Mac was that he knew Geno isn't the answer, and he saw that rather quickly.
    3 points
  19. Nobody is forcing you to pay for anything. You dont like going to the game or watching the Jets play. Don't pay, don't go. Simple. Complaining about something you willfully do is dumb.
    3 points
  20. I am bumping up this thread because so many of us are quick to forget that Hack, if given the chance and improves for real, can be our franchise QB. That Jets including Bowles and Mac went out and had a secret viewing of Hackenberg and thought that he was real deal. Some of us thought that Hack was going to the pick and we have to let Bowles have a chnce to get the guy under center whom he truly believes in!!!
    3 points
  21. If not QB in round 1, I say take advantage of the Chad Kelly injury and grab him in the middle rounds.
    3 points
  22. how about trading down? package sheldon, wilk, and their first round pick for 2 lower first rounders and maybe a 3rd. get the beef for the oline and also pick up another corner. there are qb's out there who can be traded for or are free agents. or maybe petty or hack for next season. the problem with the jets is that they need to fix both offense and defense. i'm sure most thought the defense was fixed after mac brought in revis, gilchrist, and skrine. it wasn't.
    3 points
  23. 3 points
  24. You just can't keep firing coaches and GMs every two years esp after following a good season. It's important to see if he can get these guys to show up and play the rest of the season. Obviously he didn't last Monday. It was a no show. I saw Bowles interviewed on Jets Open Mic a few days ago and he looked like a beaten man. He didn't go off the grid the way Idzik did two years ago at his presser but he looked down and almost out. So let's see what he can do the last 4 games starting tomorrow. If the team mails it in for the rest of the season then you could have a point. But he's respected aro
    3 points
  25. To say that his in-game management has been an issue is an understatement. The biggest problem with Bowles is that he's playing a 1980's version of football in 2016. He has no idea how or when to use timeouts (a running theme in NY for 10+ years) and has punted away potential victories on too many occasions to count. These aren't "mistakes" to Bowles (he's said so); this is his philosophical approach to the game and his way of football life. That's a fine approach in 1980 when teams were running 30 times a game at a clip of 3.5 yards a carry and QBs were completing 55% of their passes, but the
    3 points
  26. LOL I caught that too....Drink some pepto ... On a serious note, the OP was very well written and though out (sans "Bowels"). My issues are: The team has regressed week in and week out, as though they have given up. They wanted no part of that game Monday, but I will get to that. He is supposed to be a defensive guru and the defense ranks among the worst Jet defenses of all time, so much so that it reminds me of the defenses of the late 70's when they couldn't stop a leak. I have heard on more than 1 occasion that Bowltite is not involved with the offense at all
    3 points
  27. So, the biggest positive is that "he does what he thinks is right." I ask you this. What percentage of Bowles' actions can be considered thought-out and logical? With regards to preparation, game planning, in-game adjustments, handling off-field problems, media relations, benchings, etc. In my estimation it is between 10-19%. That is just not good enough. Bowles doesn't motivate. And he doesn't demonstrate enough intelligence to play chess. A 3rd year will not change that. "Doing what he thinks is right" is just another way of saying "stubborn" from a different point of view.
    3 points
  28. He doesn't adjust when things aren't working. His stubborn to the point of obstinacy. He has lost the locker room. His coaching staff is underperforming. His in game management is terrible. His refusal to bench players that are completely failing is absurd. That He doesn't seem to be improving in any of these areas is a massive red flag. His defensive schemes are being torn to shreds weekly. And on and on. I would have fired him after the Colts debacle.
    3 points
  29. 3 points
  30. B******T. You can't look at the performance of a defense as a whole in ONE season and come to the conclusion that individual players are 'busts'. WTF??? Wilk is NOT a bust. He was considered to be one of the top D-linemen in the league before this season. Richardson is FAR from a 'bust'. L.Williams is a rising star. Yes, this season the defense AS A WHOLE has been putrid. And that's not even fair b/c they have been very good at stopping the run. But that does not equate to players being busts. It makes no sense to equate the two. Thank god you are not running the team b/c you would
    3 points
  31. BTW. Given the performance on Monday, I think it's important to have players who want to play with effort. And Lee is one of those
    2 points
  32. Exactly. I mean, in this instance I agree with with him, but Kiper, for the most part, is an arrogant idiot.
    2 points
  33. Hackenberg will be 23 years old opening day for the 2018 season. So if he doesn't play for his first 2 pro seasons, he will be as old as some of the rookies coming out in the 2018 NFL draft. Bryce Petty is 25 right now. Hack has a lot of time to develop.
    2 points
  34. Difference is he did it for ethical reasons and is still a Jet fan while you did it becside you are a tightwad who hates everything and everybody involved with the team.....( but Geno of course)
    2 points
  35. Agree, and did the same damn thing.
    2 points
  36. Can't say I agree with Sar on a lot of things, but this laundry list is pretty damming. May not agree with all the points, but they are all at least arguable. I've really done a 180 on this over the last few weeks, not quite ready to drop the trap door on Bowles right now, but he must have an impact on the team over the last month to keep his job if I were in charge.
    2 points
  37. Nah a 10 and 6 with a easier schedule like us last year as example can be misleading keep it win your division is always the goal
    2 points
  38. If the Browns give up a number one pick in a deal for him they truly are hopeless
    2 points
  39. The Cleveland Browns are going to be the next team to over pay for a Pats jag QB that achieves for a short time in New England.
    2 points
  40. Lynching the mods is never a bad idea in this game imo.
    2 points
  41. Everyone's in trouble. I'm actually going to pay attention to this game. All 15 of my personalities.
    2 points
  42. Cons: -In game clock management is one of the worst I've seen (and I watched the Herman Edwards teams) and it's not getting better. -He challenges plays based on prayers and hope, rather than a strong case. It was the same thing with Rex, really disappointed with a play that is close, let's challenge it anyway approach. -Lack of preparation, we see the team come out flat consistently. Furthermore, we see the team come out after calling a time out with a dud play far more often than not. At least two-three times this year, there was a critical drive by the opposing team, w
    2 points
  43. I'm not totally against giving him another year, but I don't think he'll improve. He is not going to fire Kacy Rogers. He is so conservative I think this game has passed him by. His last boss is anything but conservative, but not of that moxy has rubbed off on him. Biggest reason to move on from Bowles (correct spelling) is that this defensive guru's defense sucks.
    2 points
  44. Who are you referring to? Richardson? He was drafted in 2013 when we only had Wilk. Are you talking about L.Williams? Well he was easily the BPA and looks to be one of the best draft picks the Jets have made in years (since Revis). Not sure why Jets fans complain about this as none of the guys the Jets took turned out to be busts. Since 2004 (like 12 years), the Jets have taken 5 D-linemen in the first round. 1 was a bust (Coples), 2 if you could Gholston (who's a LB). Otherwise, they got Wilk, Richardson and L.Williams. D.Boose was the last D-lineman they took in t
    2 points


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