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  1. 85 points
    I don't post much at all anymore, but I do read the posts and let you younger guys hammer it out. I've been a Jets fan since '64...a junior in high school when the Jets picked Namath. Before that, not much of a fan of any particular team. Fast forward to 1968, the Jets best team by far. I'm in a little place called Vietnam. Found out the Jets won the SB about 3 days after...communication wasn't like it is today. They hire this Joe Douglas guy and to be honest, I didn't know much about him like most of you...just what I read after I knew the Jets were eyeing him. I watched his presser the other day and afterwards, he brought his family on stage. BAM...there it was! Like a beacon in the dark that made my eyes almost as big as our HC. Joe's dad standing in the back wearing a cap...it said VIETNAM VETERAN. Like I said, it doesn't mean anything to you guys, but to me, this is an omen or it could be nothing. Let's hope this is an omen, because I'm in the winter of my life and not many seasons left.
  2. 54 points
    30 of the 32 teams in the league in his five year tenure have used at least one 2nd rounder on offensive line. 21 of the 32 teams in the league in his five year tenure have used a 1st rounder on the offensive line. All of this while drafting Bryce Petty, Christian Hackenburg and finally Sam Darnold to be the teams new young QB. The offensive line has more position spots on every down than any other position (5) Just a pathetic dereliction of duty. And for those who try and rationalize his lack of oline priority by saying he fills via trades and free agency, every team fills holes that way. But you always over pay for older vets with issues and those really good players who are young enough in FA there is big competition for. Think back to the good Jets teams of the last 15 years or so, good to great olines. I like the man, he seems nice. He's a terrible GM. Fire him already before Sam Darnold is in a cast.
  3. 42 points
    While on Good Morning Football (GMFB) Nick Mangold was asked about a variety of topics... KB: What do you think about Daniel Jones? Nick: Yeah, see I don't care about the Giants. Let's talk about the Jets.
  4. 42 points
    If he pulls it off, he will instantly become the most popular coach in franchise history
  5. 41 points
    I look at this roster, I look at this coaching staff, I look at this front office, and I look at this owner and you know what, I believe that this is the year we take a bold step. Not next year. This year. Call me crazy, but I think the Patriots are there for the taking right now. And I think that for whatever reason, the Jets as a franchise responds to change better than any organization in the NFL, each time we get a new coach and a new culture it creates a spark and pushes this team beyond its limits. Experienced head coach, Darnold in Year 2, big-play offense, Bell ripping easy yardage on swing passes, Adams and Mosely killing it on D under Williams' psychotic direction, excellent special teams, and a favorable schedule. We need to get off to a strong start, 4-1 looks doable leading to a Week 7 showdown at home against the Patriots in a fired-up MetLife Stadium on the highest rated MNF broadcast in decades. Patriots take a step back, Jets take a step up, we win the Division at 11-5 on tiebreakers, hats and t-shirts for everyone. SAR I
  6. 39 points
    wasn't excited when we got him... may hate him by week 3 of next season... but god damn it was good listening to reporters get treated like the tossing sh*t at the wall idiots they are. I expect a lot of pissy reporting about the jets moving forward by bitter beat writers...and i am ok with that.
  7. 39 points
  8. 38 points
    Think we finally got it right at the QB spot. This kid really seems like he has his priorities in order, heart is in the right place. Sam left NJ at dawn to spend the day with all these kids. He personally spent time with every single kid at the camp, talked to them about school, other sports they play, etc. Just about every kid got to catch a pass from Sam. They ended the camp with 7 on 7s. Sam jumped in on every game, took some snaps with every team. Really a great day for the kids, my 7 year old can’t stop talking about it.
  9. 38 points
    For years now, we've all been bitching that Macc was a freaking idiot. This s.o.b. presided over one of the worst stretches of Jets football I can remember. His incompetence is the stuff of legend. Hackenberg in the 2nd? Should've been fired right then. We finally ditch this turd and the board is going for the Beningo woe-is-us crap. I get it. Some people didn't like the timing. While I understand, we should be elated that we finally dropped the albatross around our necks. If we actually end up with either of the two guys were connected to, or both, it's going to be a major upgrade. I am ecstatic. Sure, this ass should have been shown the door with Bowles. I really would have preferred someone else running our 2019 draft, but we are past that. Screw Macc and his incompetence. It's over. The media and opposing fans want to talk smack and gloat over the dysfunctional jets? Let them. Get a guy in here that can surround our very talented signal-caller with better protection and weaponz. We'll get the last laugh. With the exception of John Idzik, I think it's hard not to make an improvement at GM. Our collective nightmare is over. Macc is gone. Let's enjoy it.
  10. 37 points
    every team should trade with the Jets, on the Jets terms, when the Jets say they want to trade.
  11. 37 points
    Trading Anderson for a third round pick would make no sense to me
  12. 36 points
  13. 36 points
    Imagine being gospel-quotin’ Matt Rhule and you’re about to get your first NFL gig and Mike Maccagnan tells you your coordinators are going to be two extremely bitter, notoriously hostile, recently-deposed head coaches, each of whom would kill you in your sleep to take your job
  14. 35 points
    Blessuan Austin on the football field:
  15. 34 points
  16. 33 points
    Douglas is in his 40s, Graduated from University of Richmond in 1999. Went to work for the Ravens in 2000. Has nearly 20 years experience in personnel between the Ravens and Eagles. None of us have any way of knowing who will or will not be a good GM, but this guy has been with winning organizations, nearly 20 yeras experience and has worked with Gase before. Those sound like pretty good qualifications to me. By the way, the 36-year old Joe Douglas is a British theater director. I would not want to hire the British guy as our next GM.
  17. 33 points
    Why let him spend $100m and draft then fire him? Backwards organization
  18. 32 points
    Was listening to NFLN on Sirius yesterday and Kirwan and Curruci made some really interesting observations about the Douglas hire. They basically said: 1. The Jets are AHEAD of the curve in their coach and GM combo. Said that in today's NFL the model that works is to have a GM and HC that are really in lockstep and work as a team. Carucci spent a lot of time comparing the situation to Levy/Polian in Buffalo and said that the Jets are potentially duplicating that type of situation 2. Kirwan, said, which shocked me, that the organizational structure of GM having all the power and the Head Coach reporting to him is not effective in the modern NFL. He thinks the Head Coach is more important than the GM and that they should be equals, both reporting to the President, with the Head Coach actually having more influence than the GM. Jets get roasted routinely for this structure but both guys think it is actually the right structure 3. Both think Douglas will be an awesome GM, and even more so because he is aligned with Gase.
  19. 31 points
    https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/06/10/houston-texans-brian-gaine-nick-caserio-cam-newton-panthers-joe-douglas-jets I said this when the Jets fired Mike Maccagnan, and I’ll say it again now. For all the pain the Jets went through to get here—the bad press, the outsized contract for a first-time GM, the awkward offseason, all of it—there’s a better-than-good chance that hiring Joe Douglas will be worth it. That’s because Douglas is among the most respected scouts, at any level, in all of football, and one of the few who you really never hear anything negative about. To try and illustrate that, I hit up the last two guys he worked for to get their feedback on Sunday. “Joe is so prepared for this opportunity,” Eagles EVP of football operations Howie Roseman said, via text. “He’s been with three great organizations and contributed to [Super Bowl]-winning rosters. He knows what it looks like on and off the field. He’ll take some from everywhere and put his own spin on it. He’s a great listener but also passionate about what he believes in.” “Start with being an excellent evaluator—not just good at accurately grading players, but also painting a picture of the player to everyone in the room,” texted Bears GM Ryan Pace. “Joe is great with the coaches. Great listening to everyone’s opinions and being respectful as you go through the process of establishing final grades on players. “His personality and disposition is unique in that he’s very likable, yet he’s not afraid to stand his ground and strongly convey what he believes in. … Throw in high-end work ethic and you have someone that’s going to be successful in the GM position for the Jets.” With that established, a few leftovers from the process during the last few weeks in Florham Park, N.J. … • We mentioned it before, but one of Douglas’s greatest strengths comes with his Rolodex. Connected in the scouting community like Chris Ballard was going to Indianapolis two years ago, Douglas should be able to build a robust department. The first two names I’d keep an eye on are the two rising stars he poached from Baltimore upon getting to Philly: director of player personnel Andy Weidl and director of college scouting Ian Cunningham. Maybe Roseman lets him take one of the two. Among the other names that have been out there as possibilities to join Douglas in Jersey are Chicago’s Champ Kelly (who interviewed for the Jets’ job) and ESPN’s Todd McShay. • One name that’s an important one going forward: Hymie Elhai. The SVP of business affairs and general counsel has been more active in football operations of late, and is one of three now (joining Douglas and Adam Gase) reporting directly to ownership. How Elhai fits into the overall framework figures to be one element to watch going forward—he was right there with Gase and owner Christopher Johnson in the interview process, which is a pretty clear indication of where he stands in the organization. • The Jets were prepared for Douglas to turn them down. The team was talking contract figures with Seattle director of player personnel Scott Fitterer’s camp as they were negotiating with Douglas, which was smart business. Fitterer impressed them enough to where they were comfortable with the idea of hiring him. In the end, they got their first choice, and certainly Gase’s first choice. • I’d consider the six years on Douglas’s deal vital, mainly because of the lingering unknown of how secure the new GM would be when Woody Johnson returns from the UK, which could happen as soon as next year. It’s also interesting that Douglas’s deal goes two years past the four-year deal Gase signed in January. • Don’t weep for the Eagles. Howie Roseman’s stocked his staff well, and ex-Browns exec Andrew Berry was hired in part because Philly knew it would probably lose Douglas sooner rather than later. The challenge for Roseman now will be deciding who to let go with Douglas to New York, particularly when a couple of those guys have deals expiring after this season (meaning they could just walk after next year’s draft). • My belief is that Sam Darnold’s presence was a significant draw for the candidates involved, mitigating some of the pratfalls that were on the display the last few months. So interestingly enough, the trade that Maccagnan and VP of player personnel Brian Heimerdinger made in March 2018, their most impactful move in four years there, wound up being a catalyst to finding the right people to replace them. And ultimately, I’d say between Douglas and the guys he’ll likely bring with him, the Jets have done just that. All’s well that ends well, I guess.
  20. 31 points
    I decided to start following the Jets because of this message board. I wanted to follow the NFL more closely but didn’t know what team to support. I decided that I wanted a team that hadn’t won the title in a very long time so that when they did finally win one, I couldn’t be called a bandwagon follower. I also wanted a team that had caused a lot of heartache and aroused passion in its supporters. I used to follow the St George Dragons here in Australia but had to stop because it felt like I was in an abusive relationship. I hated them and loved them in equal measure and kept coming back for more heartache. I read through a lot of different team's message boards and this one was perfect. The range of posters is better than any other one I read.You have the very experienced fans who talk about games from 50 years ago. You have men and women. You have posters with reputations, and I love it when people say, “oh wait until … reads this!” Most posters are also very funny and importantly, very smart. I read one post and find myself agreeing with every point in it and then the next poster will provide statistics that blow the previous point out of the water. Some posters are optimistic and always think the next great time for the Jets is imminent and others have been broken too many times and can’t bring themselves to have much hope, so they strike out before they get hurt again. The posts on this message board are a great metaphor for life. I now check the message board before going to work because we are 14 hours ahead of you, so I read the posts that you have written while I’ve been asleep. I am addicted and got nervous during the draft?! I don’t have the technical knowledge to contribute to the discussions but I am happy to lurk and I wanted you to know that all posters have provided me with great entertainment and knowledge during this off-season and the drafting experience.
  21. 30 points
  22. 30 points
    First thing he mentioned was the franchise QB and Sam and seeing him in practice last couple of days has gotten him very excited. Second person he mentioned was Jamal Adams @T0mShane Second person. Loves having a guy like Robby to take the top off a defense. Said the draft and free agency gets the accolades but he’s looking forward to the waiver wire. Wants to improve the overall roster Gase has an infectious personality, became great friends in Chicago and didn’t even get to work long with him but loved him. Maybe maybe not McShay. Dodged the MAC conspiracy theory. Loves Chris Johnson. Doesn’t worry about Woody coming back. Does not care about the reporting structure owner/GM/coach because it was the SAME EXACT structure in Philly (HA!!). Ozzie Newsome means everything to his career, said he had long productive discussions about the Jets. Did not have reservations about the job, didn’t say it outright but he didn’t turn it down 3 times. Sounds like a very bright, normal, natural dude. Not stiff or fake or a stuffed shirt. Great hire.
  23. 30 points
    The best thing about a Douglas hire would be the unusual feeling that the Jets actually had a plan here from the start and then successfully executed it.
  24. 30 points
  25. 30 points
    I'm old. I've been a Jets/Titans fan for a long, long time. And like virtually every Jets fan I've had my share of cockeyed optimism. And I have had much of those hopes and dreams about this team shattered. C'est la vie. It's sports. Still, I have a renewed optimism about this team along with a healthy dose of skepticism. Here are my reasons for both. Optimism We have a really good chance of finally having our franchise QB. We went through the Mark Sanchize, Geno Smith, Chad Pennington and (fill in the blank) QB, but there is something different about this kid. With all of the other guys there was always something in the back of my mind telling me he wasn't the guy. Darnold just seems to have 'it'. He's smart, athletic, aware and just plain likable. There's hope. The defense has been collecting individual talent and pieces over the last few seasons. Unlike most, I really like Leo and think he gets a bad rap. And I think Jamal Adams is a great player and is a 'glue' guy. He brings this defense together and gives them an identify. Unfortunately, there wasn't much talent around him but I think that has changed. I am thrilled we took Q and I believe he will be a game changer in middle of the defense. He's smart, athletic and extremely likable. CJ Mosely was a great signing. Swapping him out for Darren Lee is an improvement of monumental proportions. Around these guys are solid, if not spectacular complimentary pieces. Williamson, Henry Anderson (kudos to Mac for that trade) and Jenkins (if only all of our third round picks turned out this way) are very soild, as is Marcus Maye if he can stay healthy. Another key aspect of this team is youth. Among the alpha-dawgs Le'Veon is 27 and the rest are between 21-26. With Darnold, Adams, Q, Leo, Maye, Herndon, Crowder, Anderson and Enunwa all on the right side of 26, the window should remain open for several years. I really, really like the Wesco pick. I think it's safe to say he is an addition to the OL (see skepticism below). Skepticism The biggest potential issue I see is chemistry. Not between the players but among the coaching staff. Will Gase and Williams co-exist? That's the wild card (pun intended) here. As for the rift between Gase and Mac, I think, or at least hope, that's the media trying to remain relevant between the draft and camp. I'm surprised they haven't called for an independent investigation and asked for Mac's tax returns since he took office. While most are clamoring away for a better CB2 I am more concerned about CB1. IF Trumaine returns to form, I think the CB2 issue is far less relevant. IF Tru locks down one side of the field Williams can give CB2, whomever that is, enough help to keep the damage to a minimum. If not, we can expect a lot of 42-41 final scores. This "concern" actually falls somewhere between optimism and skepticism. I love the Polite pick and I'm hoping that his poor decisions leading up to the draft turn out to be the "20 pounds that saved the Jets season". He has first round talent and falling to us in the third round may be the saving grace to finally provide us with a pass rush. I watched every Florida game last year (notice I didn't say I watched the "tape". Let's face it we posters don't watch tape, we watch CBS!) and this kid stood out. And playing next to CJ and Williamson and behind Leo, Q and Anderson, I am optimistic. If not, well, that's where the skepticism part comes in. As for the OL, I remain skeptical. I think Winters has finally proven he is not the RG we need. I really hope Mac has a trade up his leave so we don't go into the season with Harrison and Toth as the two guys. Overall I am excited about this season. I think this team will be fun to watch on both sides of the ball. There will be hiccups and bad plays/games but the final product should be far better than last year's version. I expect around eight wins but more importantly I think we will go into the 2020 offseason with just a few holes to fill and a plan to fill them.
  26. 29 points
    Just saving this for all the haters. The Jets are winning both of these games. The Jets are making the playoffs this year. As you were.
  27. 29 points
    Cliff notes so far: he hates the media he hates answering questions he hates free agency he hates agents he hates the draft process he hates dealing with the front office He LOVES Darnold
  28. 29 points
    ...that I fell asleep before the draft started and missed it live. (Began at 2am my time). Q? Great prospect. However, when it comes to utilizing draft resources relative to what we have on the roster, this front office and ownership are grossly incompetent. Its now to the point that when this stupidity happens every year we must somehow convince ourselves that maybe he simply couldn't find the right exchange in a trade, which also shows his consistent inability to negotiate a trade when he has top prospects still available such as Q or top rated EDGE guys on the board. And speaking of EDGE, wasnt that what was said to be needed the entire time, which is why we tried to sign guys like Barr? Mike Maccagnan just drafted, for the 2nd time in his GM career, a DT with a top pick, over an edge player, a DT position which is one of the few strengths of this team which includes veteran depth AND a 25 year old developing 2nd year DT that we just drafted last off-season. Macc should have been fired after the end of 2016. Mike Maccagnan is a trash GM, and based on his draft history, he's proven to also be a trash scout.
  29. 28 points
    Good column from ESPN Philadelphia reporter on Douglas: https://www.espn.com/blog/philadelphia-eagles/post/_/id/27651/what-the-jets-are-getting-and-the-eagles-are-losing-in-joe-douglas What the Jets are getting (and the Eagles are losing) in Joe Douglas 2:03 PM CT Tim McManus PHILADELPHIA -- In March 2017, just before the Philadelphia Eagles embarked on their first Super Bowl run in franchise history, chairman and CEO Jeffrey Lurie called the hiring of Joe Douglas "the pivotal moment of the last year." Carson Wentz was coming off a promising rookie season, flashing traits of a franchise quarterback, but Lurie said he was getting more props from general managers at the NFL owners meetings for attracting Douglas and his right-hand man, Andy Weidl, to Philadelphia than just about anything else. "[Executive vice president of football operations] Howie [Roseman] and I discussed when he was going to be in the football operations role [that] he had to have a top-notch player personnel department, or we were going to find somebody who could find a great player personnel department," Lurie said. "That was his responsibility. He went out and recruited Joe Douglas, Andy Weidl, and they've put something together that I hope can be truly special." Eleven months later, after the Lombardi Trophy was secured by the Eagles, one of the many personal moments shared inside the U.S. Bank Stadium locker room was between Lurie and Douglas, who embraced in front of the "Super Bowl LII champions" banner as the party raged around them. Lurie's praise of Douglas was more tepid when he spoke at the league meetings this past March. He called Joe "terrific" before turning attention to the "slew" of talented evaluators in the building who have the Eagles well-positioned for when they inevitability lose top executives. In other words, Lurie was preparing the public for the loss of Douglas. That moment is now, with Douglas leaving for the New York Jets general manager gig. Lurie is right about the Eagles having a deep pool of in-house talent to draw from. They hired Andrew Berry as the team's vice president of football operations in February. The Harvard grad previously worked for the Cleveland Browns as VP of player personnel, the same title Douglas had with the Eagles. Also, some in the scouting community think that Weidl, the director of player personnel, will be bumped up into his old partner's role. The loss of Douglas isn't a death blow for Philly, but it shouldn't be underplayed what the Eagles are losing -- and the Jets are getting -- in Douglas. Serving under Hall of Famer Ozzie Newsome in Baltimore, Douglas worked in the Ravens' personnel department for 16 years (2000-15) and had a hand in obtaining players such as linebacker C.J. Mosley, guard Marshal Yanda and quarterback Joe Flacco. He spent a year as the Chicago Bears' director of college scouting before joining the Eagles, with whom he oversaw the day-to-day personnel operation and helped construct a Super Bowl roster. Considered a scout's scout, Douglas' traditional approach to evaluating served as a nice counterweight in an increasingly analytics-driven organization. He values production over measurables and character makeup above perhaps all else. He's looking for leaders, and he's looking for players who are football-obsessed. "At some point, these guys are going to be challenged," he said prior to April's NFL draft. "They're going to hit rock-bottom. And they're going to have to be able to pick themselves up and dust themselves off and show that they can withstand the adversity." Douglas is well-liked by his peers and is good for building morale. He is quick to give credit where it is deserved and checks his ego at the door. He has shown an ability to work in conjunction with a very present and powerful analytics arm, even though that world was somewhat foreign to him when he arrived in Philly. "We're big believers in how we've brought together a staff of different viewpoints and perspectives and all come to the same conclusion," he said. "We all speak our minds, and we all have strong viewpoints, but at the end of the day, we respect each other's work and respect each other's decision." Weidl has many of the same traits and, having worked so closely with Douglas in Baltimore and Philadelphia, will likely have a similar approach and presence should he get Douglas' gig. It worked in Philly because Lurie and Roseman filled the room with gifted evaluators who came at things from different backgrounds and worked to blend their findings in the name of making good decisions. Douglas' part can be looked at as adding soul to the machine. He'll bring that and a sharpened scouting eye to the Jets. Whether his run there ends in success will depend on whether the other necessary components are placed around him.
  30. 28 points
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHSHSHSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHSHAHSHA @Jet Nut
  31. 28 points
    Tom Shane now: Browns win 56 to 12. Game Day: Jets win. Tom Shane then: Calm down people it was only the Browns, this is still a 1 and 15 team.
  32. 27 points
    I love my sports car. I probably paid a little more for it than I should have. But that was 6 months ago and I barely remember it now. But every time I start the engine I smile from ear to ear and it doesn't drive any different because of what I paid. When Bell scores two TDs in a game I don't think we'll hear the commentator say, "Bell completely juked that LB out of his shorts on the way to a 31 yard TD....but you know, the Jets paid a little more for him than they should have. I mean less than what the Steelers paid and were going to pay...but still....you know."
  33. 27 points
    Some interesting observations on Gase when he was with him in Miami (I'm tired of the Mac talk--BTW all the radio dudes are killing the firing but it's done so f*ck it). Said he's a great coach, very demanding, had no problem working with him and in fact enjoyed the challenge. Said he wants what he wants and we shouldn't be too put off about the Bell/Crowder/Mosely nonsense--because it was more about the money spent rather than the actual players. Said he's going to make Sam a 70% completion guy specifically because of Bell. Going to make Sam a top tier QB. Kay weighed in with a comment that he's friendly with someone in the Denver front office who was there with Gase and this guy said Gase is an absolutely brilliant coach, really really smart, very demanding, an outstanding offensive mind and is going to be a great coach for the Jets. So the fear that Gase is running roughshod over the owner and about running the show when he hasn't proven all that much should not be that big of a fear. This is going to be a fun season and possible decade plus of Jets football.
  34. 27 points
    Imagine how good Quinnen Williams seems to a guy that thinks Nathan Shepherd is pretty good!
  35. 27 points
    I was on vacation during the draft but when I checked the board I was surprised at the outrage over the Q Williams pick. For months it was pretty clear that the top of the draft aside from Murray was going to be defense heavy. Sure we all wanted a trade, get more picks. But the QBs are all suspect, so nobody wanted to trade up. Macc is impossible to defend, so trust me, I am not trying to defend him. He leaves a lot to be desired and his best player available mantra leaves the Jets completely neglecting certain positions. All that being said, with the 3rd pick the Jets made the right choice. Edge rushers are great, and hopefully the Jets got their guy in the 3rd round. But when you play Tom Brady he gets rid of the ball in 2 seconds, so pressure up the middle is important too. They did the right thing taking Q Williams. I get all the outrage over draft failures of the past. But they are where they are right now. The point of this thread is because I saw so many people saying the Jets are neglecting the offense. Trading down in round one and taking a center in round one and w wide recevier in round two would have been perfect. NOBODY wanted to trade up. So they took Williams and improved the defense which does improve the team. Seeing a lot of talk about how it is an offense first leage. That is true, but the Rams are the model that everyone is following and they were basically shut out in the Super Bowl. So drafting defensive players is still a requirement lol. As far the offense that was the focus of free agency. Le'Veon Bell is a guy that can take a significant step back and still be a 1,500 total yards per year back. Jamison Crowder he is going to be a big part of this offense in the slot, think 700 - 800 yards per year. Kelechi Osemele = huge upgrade on the oline. We definitely hoped the draft board would fall a different way. But that doesn't mean they did the wrong thing standing at 3. You think Gregg Williams is a little excited about this defense right now? He sure is.
  36. 27 points
    To be fair to Macc it’s impossible to see eye to eye with Gase
  37. 27 points
    For those making fun of how he talks, you are grade A dipsh*ts. Biggest day of his life.
  38. 26 points
    What a hack-ass piece of sh*t article clearly written atop someone’s toilet. The actual list: 1. Passing on Deshaun Watson and Pat Mahomes. Call this revisionist, but that’s not how history works, which will show that there were two franchise QBs on the board and he took a safety. 2. Re-signing Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown instead of having the guts to go through a proper rebuild when both QBs were clearly stopgaps. 3. Offering Kirk Cousins $120 million in guaranteed money while fielding the worst roster in football. Imagine where the Jets would be if Maccagnan succeeded in bringing in Steve Beurlein 2.0 at $30 mil per. 4. Ignoring the OL and skill positions in the drafts leading up to 2018 while still claiming the “plan” was to draft QB in 2018.
  39. 26 points
    A GREAT pick folks.
  40. 25 points
    For all the posters that think I only crap on our draft picks, I love this one. Excellent value and I see a LT at the next level.
  41. 25 points
    Gase is a highly intelligent anti-social hyper-competitive quasi-psychopath whose inability to get along with others gets in the way of his doing his job. Mac is a plodding political bureaucratic hack who is not very good at is supposed job, which is scouting and assembling football talent. What could go wrong?
  42. 25 points
    I follow this group on Facebook. If you’re on there (I don’t recommend FB), it’s a cool group. I’m a Jet fan because I was a little kid who got to see a lot of games at Shea. I thought this was a cool defense of our own Broadway Joe: Freezing at Flushing members this Don Stokes. I wanted to share something with you written by one of our members Jim Trainor. He was responding to a comment that was made by a member. I won’t share his name. This person stated he felt Joe Namath (In this photo with Buddy Ryan circa 1971) was overrated. I felt Jim’s statement gives a wonderful explanation on the legend of Broadway Joe. Thanks Jim Here it is: ...................For a period of about 6 years, he (Joe) was the best quarterback in Pro Football, and it wasn’t even close. Just listen to the likes of Lombardi, Madden, Shula, Davis, Walsh, Gillman, Baugh all talk about him. Time and the evolution of the game has not been kind to Namath because the post 1980 rule changes and emphasis on scoring has helped dwarf not only his stat line, but his impact on the game. Most people who saw him play, look past the career stat lines because you could “see” the greatness of his talent. If you never saw him play, and you only measure greatness through stat lines, you’ll never be convinced that Namath was one of the top 20 talents to ever play the position. It’s unfortunate that injuries, the disadvantage of playing in one of the most “unfriendly” passing venues in football, and horrendous Jet teams of the mid 70’s have damaged those career statistics. But here’s a stat to consider... In the history of the NFL, from 1920 to now, there have been 188 quarterbacks that have thrown for over 4,000 yards in a single season. 186 of those occurred AFTER 1980, after the first set of rules to help offenses pass the ball were instituted. From 1920 to 1980, there were ONLY 2 quarterbacks to do it, Dan Fouts and Joe Namath, and Namath is the ONLY 1 to do it in a 14 game season. Further, there have been 11 quarterbacks that have thrown for 5,000 yards in a season since 1984, when Dan Marino did it first. The other 10 times it was done all occurred after 2007, which shows you how great Marino was. The point is this... the NFL game we watch today isn’t even the same game it was in 1985, never mind 1970. You can’t measure from different eras against each other... everything about the game (I.e. pro offense rules, stadiums/weather conditions, injury treatments, offensive systems, etc...) is different. Bottom line is this... Joe Namath was one of, if not the best QB, of his generation and some of the greatest coaches and players back that up, even if the career stat line doesn’t.
  43. 24 points
    Now that the upgrade is over, we were able to fix a few bugs. We also started updating the color scheme to match the Jets, Gotham Green. Right now there is too much green. We are going to have a designer make some tweaks. But we are no longer using the old green, gotham green is here.
  44. 24 points
    It's clear that we need an appreciation/film breakdown thread for Jamal Adams because alot of Jets fans simply dont see what Adams provides to this team on the weekly basis and the fact that he's the best player on this team. The disrespect of this guy and what he brings to the table because of Macc's poor decision making is just insane. Before I seen folks knocking him as some sort of overrated or low impact guy <<<< @dbatesman , but now folks are taking shots at his all pro status. It's time for folks to let it go already with Watson and Mahomes and stop blaming this kid that has done nothing but become the best player on this team and the first all pro to be drafted in probably a decade+. We have our future offensive leader in Sam Darnold and we have our leader on defense in Adams. These videos are breakdowns of Adams performances against the Bills, Texans, Packers and Patriots. Enjoy one of just a couple of gems that we've drafted this entire decade.
  45. 24 points
    What makes it different is that they gave him a lot of money, years, and control, which will make the job more appealing if/when Douglas moves on. This hire was a big-boy move and they stepped up to get it done.
  46. 24 points
    LINK: Charley Casserly not a supporter of Peyton Manning to the Jets Welp, this now makes hiring Peyton Manning the best move for the Jets, due to the fact Casserly is almost always wrong.
  47. 24 points
    Jenkins was great, but not more dominant as a Jet than this guy.
  48. 24 points
    1. There is a gulf between what NFL teams are doing and what the people that cover those teams are reporting on. Insider “access” has become a highly managed, self-contained industry whereby the NFL controls what “news” is distributed, when it gets out, and how. If you’re not Schefter or Rapoport, you’re frozen out entirely. The draft media, specifically, is a bunch of self-appointed bloggers who are almost not worth paying attention to. 2. Quinnen Williams is a fine player who does nothing to help Sam Darnold or the Jets. He doesn’t make the product appreciably better, and his presence here should presage the end of Leonard Williams’ underwhelming time on the roster because there’s no reason to keep both of them, especially when you have to pay one of them $17 mil per after this season. Maccagnan did *exactly this* four years ago with Sheldon and Leonard and he thinks he’s going to get away with it again. 3. Maccagnan will skate, at least publicly, because Dave Gettleman bailed them out with a catastrophic draft night. The Giants train wreck is set to be a national sports story until Gettleman is tossed. 4. The ESPN telecast was a mothet****ing nightmare from start to finish. From Trey Wingo’s screaming, weird opening monologue, to Booger McFarland reminding everyone how awful the Monday Night Football telecast was, to relegating Schefter to a side screen propping up Mort, it was awful. The lowlight, however, was the fifteen minute vignette where they took turns apologizing for and explaining away Jeffrey Simmons beating the sh*t out of a woman lying on the ground. This segment was so inexcusable and obtuse that someone needs to be outed for producing it. At one point, Wingo even says that the woman on the ground had a “history” with Simmons’ sister, as though she had it coming. There’s a reason ESPN was so invested in covering for Simmons and someone needs to find out that reason. An absolute disgrace. Maybe Mushnick or Marchand can take a day off from dick-riding Francesa to actually do some reporting on an actual sports media story. 5. Maccagnan saying that he’s going to try to trade up into the second round is an admission that he knows he ****ed up in the first round. We’ll never know what the offers were to trade down from 3, but chances are good that Maccagnan choked and took the chicken exit to cover his own ass. It was reminiscent of Tannenbaum talking about the “mini-draft” after nuking one of his draft classes, referring to the UDFA signing period.
  49. 24 points
    It's a long offseason, this got me pumped. Can't wait to see Darnold hitting up his new safety valve.
  50. 23 points
    Jets got rid of the worst Head Coach since Kotite and a lousy GM and people are outraged because it happened during the incorrect month


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