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  1. Third time you’ve used this joke. It’s not landing.
    21 points
  2. I’d have to imagine San Francisco made that offer to us. Pretty much says that we’re going QB at 2, IMO.
    21 points
  3. Bite your tongue. Go do your research and look up how many times I've said the Jets are unwilling to trade outside of the top 10. They made the same offer to the Jets, Jets weren't into it.
    20 points
  4. This trade destroys what @football guyhas been claiming. He has said if the Jets could get a blockbuster deal for the #2 pick that's what they would do. SF obviously tried to do that deal with the Jets before talking to the Dolphins. This guarantees Jets pick Zack Wilson.
    20 points
  5. "No...I've never seen a ghost".
    19 points
  6. If the Jets are taking Zach Wilson, look out a Sam Darnold, #23, and #86 for #9 swap
    19 points
  7. Jets backup QBs in the 9 games Darnold has missed as a pro: 0-10. Coaches don't look at numbers, and while they do look at film they view it through a different lens than fans do. Fans look at film with production in mind, whereas coaches take everything into context: process, personnel, coaching, and playcalling. If you removed context from the Super Bowl and evaluated Mahomes game in a vacuum - didn't know who the player was, didn't know the teams, didn't know the importance of the game - it would feel a lot like how it has felt watching Darnold: lots of pass protection breakdowns, some dumb playcalling, some drops, lack of consistent separation, poor decisions, and then some "how the hell did he do that" throws. I'm not comparing Darnold to Mahomes, but I am saying that you need to consider the context surrounding Darnold's play to accurately evaluate him. What was the coaching like? How did the scheme fit or not fit his skill set? How did mono affect him? How did the pandemic affect him? Did the coaching staff/players put him in the best position to succeed? I get it, us as fans want to look at stats and comparables and use them as predictables for players. There is no comparison to Darnold in NFL history. The coaches and executives all believe he's going to figure it out. People in other organizations believe he's going to figure it out. Reputable analysts think he's going to figure it out. There's a reason, and it has very little to do with stats; it's context, coachability, and his raw talent. It really comes down to who offers what at this point, and which offer maximizes roster value.
    16 points
  8. They could have 50 picks over the next 3 years but if the QB sucks it won’t matter. I rather not pass up on Wilson and just use the same haul the Niners used to move up for a QB next year.
    14 points
  9. San Fran would rather give up a haul for Wilson or Fields than toss a 2 for Sam. Don’t blame them
    14 points
  10. If the Jets actually sit at 2 and don’t draft a QB then...well I don’t know. But that would be bad.
    14 points
  11. Quoted from their site ... " As a long time Jaguars fan I think we need to look at Wilson because he has an elite skill set. Don’t get me wrong I was completely on the Lawrence bandwagon after we secured #1 but after watching every throw/run of both Lawrence/Wilson/Fields I came away with Wilson being the best prospect and natural thrower of the football. His lightning fast release and accuracy both in and outside of the pocket is elite. Something that bothered me on Lawrence after watching Wilson and Fields first was his release. It’s very long and that gives corners that extra half second to adjust. Fields was far behind both prospects but after watching them I came away with Wilson being the best QB. I’m sure that Meyer will take Lawrence but I’m not sure it’s the right mov. If I’m Meyer I’m taking Wilson" Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app
    13 points
  12. interesting conversation I bet — excuse my mess at the bottom lol.
    13 points
  13. Agreed. JD must wait until the first pick is selected.
    13 points
  14. I think it's over now. The Jets are taking Wilson. And he had better damn well be better than everyone available at #12, that 3rd round pick and those two other #1's combined. Spectacular day for Dolphins Fans, Jets gonna reach at QB yet again. If Wilson is anything short of a top 5 long-term QB, it's a horrible day for the Jets. You fawning Wilson fanbois had better be right for once.
    12 points
  15. It is a football message board. It is March. It is a pandemic. People are allowed to be happy lol. The kid is tearing it up. That is all that can happen today. The story will play itself out over time, but this is the most he can do today. And he is putting on a clinic.
    12 points
  16. I want to agree. But I am watching it and it is amazing. His deep ball accuracy is insanity.
    12 points
  17. It’s sad that so many people really want to just cut that guy down. geez.
    12 points
  18. So with a deep OL draft class, Douglas didn't push to sign an expensive vet when he can draft a cheap rookie(s)
    12 points
  19. No worries. The Jets are trading out of the #2- so don’t give it another thought.
    12 points
  20. So, just to be clear, seeing @Paradis ejaculate is something you are very much looking forward to? Like, cannot remain in your seat excited?
    11 points
  21. thanks Albert, I’ll settle down now.
    11 points
  22. Pro day? Significantly better, and Darnold had a great pro day.
    10 points
  23. If I was a beat reporter in the NFL, and this was the extent of my analysis, I‘d probably quit.
    10 points
  24. If I was starting a boy band I would take them both.
    10 points
  25. Make no mistake, Douglas is in the Darnold corner too, but the front office is trying to not let emotion dictate their direction. It’s highly unlikely Douglas is going to let himself get beat in a trade for #2 if the offers aren’t there, at which rate trading Darnold would seem to be the likely play since there are more teams willing to meet that price than there may be for #2. As far as why the coaches like Darnold: they believe (1) he has all the requisite tools to thrive in the offense they’re installing; (2) he is more prepared to “win-now” than a rookie would be; and (3) potentially trading the pick will result in an immense talent influx for years to come... assuming of course there’s a hot market for the pick.
    10 points
  26. "No ... really ... Adam Gase is gone. For real dude."
    9 points
  27. I've seen way too many people on this board complaining about the Jets' running back group or longingly eyeing elite RB options like Harris or Etienne in the draft, and it seems like y'all just don't understand the offensive system we brought in when we hired Saleh and he took Mike Lafleur and John Benton with him. So let's review. Kyle Shanahan runs a wide-zone running offense, which is founded on quick OL making horizontal space with the help of hard-blocking receivers. It's an evolution of the Mike Shanahan/Gary Kubiak/Alex Gibbs offense. It's built on one-cut runners - players who can plant their foot and head north-south - and generally finds success with less-than-premium investments at RB. Here are the RBs Kyle Shanahan has had as an OC and head coach, and their results: SF 2020: Jeff Wilson (UDFA) and Raheem Mostert (UDFA) combine for 1100 yards in a year where they both get injured SF 2019: Mostert and Tevin Coleman (3rd Rd) combine for 1300 yards SF 2018: Matt Breida (UDFA) and Alfred Morris (6th Rd) combine for 1200 yards SF 2017: Breida and Carlos Hyde (2d Rd) combine for 1400 yards ATL 2016: Devonta Freeman (4th Rd) and Coleman (3rd Rd) combine for 1600 yards ATL 2015: Freeman and Coleman combine for 1450 yards CLE 2014: Terrance West (3rd Rd) and Isaiah Crowell (UDFA) combine for 1300 yards WAS 2013: Morris runs for 1300 yards WAS 2012: Morris runs for 1600 yards. I can keep going back, but you can see the trend. The most premium asset a Shanahan team has invested into a RB is a 3rd round pick (on West and Coleman) [Hyde was a second round pick but he was drafted before Shanahan came to SF]. And his best results were primarily with UDFAs and late round picks. How about that Shanahan/Kubiak/Gibbs offense? Well, in 1995 (Mike's first year as Head Coach in Denver), the Broncos rushing attack was led by a 6th round pick ... a guy named Terrell Davis. When Davis got injured in 1999, 4th rounder Olandis Gary stepped up and led the team with 1150 yards in 12 games. In 2000, 6th rounder Mike Anderson ran for about 1500 yards. In 2001, Anderson and TD split carries for 1300 yards. OK ... how about Kubiak? When he took over as Texans head coach in 2006, his top two RBs were Ron Dayne (a spectacularly bad fit for that offense) and the immortal Wali Lundy; they combined for 1000 yards. 2007 was more of the same, but in 2008, rookie Steve Slaton (a 3rd round pick) broke out for 1300 yards. 2009 was a disaster - Slaton ran for only 430 yards - but in the last two weeks of the season, they found something: a UDFA who turned 39 carries into 216 yards. The next year, he became their starting back and never looked back; Arian Foster ran for 1600 years in the first of a string of years where he was the best back in the league. Bottom line, the Shanahan offense - the one we're now going to run - has a long history of turning low-investment backs into elite producers. If it was just Davis, or Foster, you could call it luck; sometimes diamonds in the rough slip in the draft. But this is basically two-and-a-half decades of "4th round RB and below" (and more often than not a UDFA) leading the team to excellent results on the ground. With that pedigree, it would be absolute insanity to draft Najee Harris or Travis Etienne or any other running back in the first two rounds of the draft. And it would have been absolutely absurd to throw big dollars at a FA running back. Our running back room - with Tevin Coleman's sub-4.4 speed and Ty Johnson's 4.4 flat speed - is just fine for this offense. If anything, we'll look to add a fast, one-cut back in the late rounds or UDFA, someone like Kansas's Pooka Williams or Memphis's Kenny Gainwell if he slips. That's it.
    9 points
  28. Dude, he threw 9 TD’s the entire year, he’s been the worst starting QB since he came out. His situation and team? Awful. He’s made many horrid decisions that has dug his OWN hole though. This idea where Sam gets a free pass because the Jets suck just as bad as Sam does individually is nauseating
    9 points
  29. Sir, this is not Grindr.
    9 points
  30. My first preference after we lost out on TL is Fields, but I have to admit Wilson is starting to grow on me. Maybe I’m just buying into all of the hype I don’t know, but this kid has got some moxie along with a strong and accurate arm. Whichever QB the Jets take Wilson/Fields I’ll rally around, but if they stick with Sam I’ll be pissed off.
    9 points
  31. If there is anybody who honestly thinks that after all the time JD and Saleh spent together before he was hired that they aren't on the same page regarding the QB decision, then I don't know what to tell you. JD would have never hired him, nor would Saleh ever have taken the job. Common sense fellas.
    9 points
  32. If they pass on Wilson the Jets will be hiring a new GM in 2 years.
    8 points
  33. So the Eagles who were just SLAUGHTERED for not trying to beat Washington in a lost season last game of the year last year by every one and their dog could make the move they just made because they picked 6 rather than 10, they get a better mid round pick this year and a 1st round pick next year. All because they did not win a shi**y meaningless game.
    8 points
  34. They essentially traded from #3 to #6 for a comp third round pick this year and a 2023 first rounder. Not exactly smelling genius here. They probably want a WR Tua's familiar with.
    8 points
  35. Haven’t been this excited since Sams proday!
    8 points
  36. This removes the 49ers from acquiring Darnold, but the plan they've had was either to acquire Darnold and let him sit behind Garoppolo or trade up for a QB and let him sit behind Garoppolo. But what this does do for the Jets is force a market for the #2 pick. Atlanta has been talking about moving out of that spot, so it looks like it's a 1-2-3 at QB. You want Wilson? Need to go through the Jets. As far as where Darnold's suitors are? Carolina, Denver, Minnesota, Washington, Pittsburgh, and don't rule out Minnesota/Seattle.
    8 points
  37. lol "guarantees" Guarantees nothing captain. What if he doesn't want to drop 10 spots? The only thing this guarantees is that if Carolina wants a QB - they're options are now US and only US.
    8 points
  38. Hes bigger than: Baker Mayfield Drew Brees Russell Wilson Kyler Murray Lamar Jackson Tua Hes roughly the same size as: Teddy Bridgewater Aaron Rodgers Andy Dalton Jimmy G Kirk Cousins Deshaun Watson Gardner Minshew Thats nearly half the starting QBs in the league last year If you want to be concerned about his shoulder injury - I totally get it. Chad Pennington was bigger than him and couldn't stay healthy. We've all seen athletic freaks who couldn't stay on the field b/c of injuries - some guys are just injury prone. If he fails his medicals I'm all for taking Fields over him - but to say his size alone is the reason he won't make it is silly.
    8 points
  39. Or a slightly taller (1/8th of an inch) and slightly thinner (8 lbs) version of Aaron Rodgers on his pro day... I'm fine if people don't want to pick ZW - but his size is no longer a legit reason not to
    8 points
  40. Great first post. Welcome to the board. Put me down for any choice that means Darnold doesn’t take a single snap next year for the Jets.
    8 points
  41. Every year there will be a QB hype filled with prophecies of greatness. We need a fresh start and we will take Wilson, boom or bust. Fuk the Jags and their fans. This thread is a total waste of time, no pun intended.
    8 points
  42. I'm already in love with Dimples McTwink. I'm gonna be so heartbroken when we run it back with the ginger boogie boarder and Kyle Pitts.
    8 points
  43. Oh you silly goose, you're missing the point. Fields has been a known commodity for much longer which means the odds are very likely Douglas might have seen him play football in a primetime game considering he led his team to back to back playoff appearances and a national championship. He also might have scouted other players at Ohio St. because that's where good prospects from High School go to play the game of Football and prepare for the NFL. Who knows, maybe they've even met face to face and exchanged a hand shake. Whereas, there is no way he's ever met Zach Wilson because nobody knew who he was 6 months ago Nod your head if you follow.
    7 points
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