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One less draft pick to spend on defense. I'm in.

Dee millner at 9 Sheldon Richardson at 13 Geno Smith at 39

Nope. He will trade back if anything,

What’s the difference

Teven Jenkings + Creed Humphrey

D needs a leader with some attitude.

Send me a picture of your face, I’d like to punch my laptop.

La Canfora saying it’s not for sure Wilson is the pick at 2 is pretty much 100% confirmation that Wilson is for sure the pick at 2

Good. What he did last year was special, amazing even, but he doesn't belong in the NFL anymore, not with his high health risk levels. I'm glad he's doing the right thing, retire, enjoy your millions, executive produce your inevitable Disney bio film, be with your family, and maybe, just maybe, he'll still be able to walk and think in ten years.

Congrats to Alex Smith in my opinion he's made the right decision. The fact that he came back from that horrific leg injury is a miracle. Smart guy young guy with a family walking is important to him.

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I could see him trading up 2 or 3 spots for a particular lineman. Don’t see anything more than that

All of these qbs are better then that scrub sam darnold so there is literally nothing to be upset about. The fact that we have a new qb coming in who might actually be able to play is ridiculously exciting. We NEVER have to watch Sam Darnold throw another pass for the NYJ. How is it possible that you are not happy about that?

The most important part of the OL "lists" and rankings these days that's being ignored is scheme fit. It's the reason James Carpenter didn't work out here despite being a very good OG. The Jets need mobile, athletic zone-blocking OLinemen. These are guys who can pull, who can get out into space and pick off a LBer on the second level. We don't want man/power blocking types who, even if they're strong bulldozer types, can only operate in small spaces by blowing guys off the ball. From that standpoint, only certain guys are a truly good fit.

Far better than a mccagnan draft. CB is a value position even moreso back then. Shel Rich was a very good pick on potential, that is when you pick a DT you love, not top 10 Geno as awful as he was is still in the league and played meaningful games, unlike hackenburg. We actually followed up a terrible drafting GM with a guy who was terrible at drafting and had no earthly concept of player value. Last time the Jets were any good? It all started by taking Dbrick and mangold in the 1st round. After picking Wilson my strong preference is still to take oline at 23 AND 34.

He has to go to a team with an established QB so he can sit for a year (SF, ATL, DET)

Wilson is so good his name is on every NFL football already.

I see TWO potential trade up spots: #12 with PHI: cost #23, #34 (we get a 2022 third back). WHY? There’s a Philly connection, and the holes on their roster match up well with the late 1st/early 2nd stock (WR2s, CB2s, LBs) whereas JD might want upper echelon talent for his new QB. -potential targets would be any of the top-3 WRs, the TE, or one of (Sewell, Slater) #16 with ARI: cost #23, #87, #107. WHY? Arizona has zero picks in the third and fourth round. Here they slide back seven spots and load up on picks while still in a position to nab a good player. I see the Raiders, Colts, Bears, and Titans as OL party crashers, JD might want to jump them to get his guy. -potential targets would be Teven Jenkins or Vera-Tucker.

Gale Sayers.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/18/2021-nfl-draft-the-top-10-offensive-linemen/ The Post’s Ryan Dunleavy gives his top 10 offensive linemen in this year’s NFL draft, based on evaluations and conversations with people around the league: OT Penei Sewell, Oregon, 6-5, 331 lbs.: Three first-round tackles played well as Day One starters last season — and Sewell would’ve been picked ahead of all of them. Powerful upper body and nimble feet. One sack allowed on 1,376 career snaps. OT/OG Rashawn Slater, Northwestern, 6-4, 304 lbs.: Some say he should move to guard because he has short arms and the athleticism to pull. He says he’s the best tackle in the draft. That perceived slight should only add to his nastiness. OG Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC, 6-5, 308 lbs.: Played left tackle last season but is considered a future All-Pro guard, maybe closer to Pro Bowler Brandon Scherff than Hall of Fame-track Quenton Nelson. Wins with his hands. OT Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech, 6-5, 322 lbs.: Only one FBS scholarship offer out of high school. Smooth technique throughout his career at left tackle (35 starts) and answered some questions about his inconsistent effort in 2020. OT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State, 6-6, 317 lbs.: Prototypical NFL frame with good tape at the four non-center positions (mostly right tackle). Wouldn’t win the Combine Olympics because of short arms, but handles a bull rush. OT/OG Jalen Mayfield, Michigan, 6-5, 326 lbs.: Played in just 18 games, including two last season, so this is a pick based on potential. You can’t teach his toughness, but he is going to need to be taught some fundamentals. OT Dillon Raduz, North Dakota State, 6-4, 301 lbs.: Played under an increased spotlight because of quarterback Trey Lance. Better run-blocker than pass-protector but earned Practice Player of the Week honors at the Senior Bowl. C Landon Dickerson, Alabama, 6-6, 333 lbs.: Rimington Trophy winner as the best center in the nation in his one season after transferring from Florida State. Advanced-level technique but coming off an ACL injury in SEC title game. OT Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame 6-6, 302 lbs.: Three-year starter at left tackle, following in the footsteps of Mike McGlinchey, Ronnie Stanley and Zack Martin since 2010. Considered a safe second-round pick who will be a longtime starter. OG Wyatt Davis, Ohio State, 6-4, 315 lbs: Grandson of Hall of Famer Willie Davis, Wyatt often is described as a “people-mover.” Could really shine in a power-based rushing attack, but he’s almost too eager for contact as plays develop. Late Riser OT Sam Cosmi, Texas, 6-6, 314 lbs.: Scouts say he moves like a big tight end (he scored a catch-and-run touchdown) in open space. Critics say he is penalized too often and is too reliant on technique to physically dominate. Falling Fast OT James Hudson, Cincinnati, 6-5, 310 lbs.: Began his career as a defensive lineman at Michigan, but the transfer and position change both worked out. Some bad lower-body habits that will require extra one-on-one coaching. Small-School Wonder C Quinn Meinerz, Wisconsin-Whitewater, 6-3, 320: It seems a NCAA Division III offensive lineman stands out at the Senior Bowl and becomes a Day 2 pick every year. Scouts love his toughness, work ethic and textbook low center of gravity.

We're so f'd.

He’s a good writer

Guess they must really value his contributions on specials, because he adds little to the TE corps.

We need 2 of these guys

Now let's see. We have three big young corners who fit the zone scheme perfectly but have been playing man to man with off coverage. Why would we bring in a big veteran who has played that scheme most of his career? I mean, how is that going to help our young corners develop? Yes, he knows every trick in the book. Yes, he has played on the biggest NFL stage. Yes, he wears the ring Yes, he is familiar with every receiver in the entire league. Yes, he is known for his film study. Yes, he is a recognized tough guy. Yes, he once got exiled from his team for calling out a player for not putting in the work . . . Yes, he just finished playing for our head coach. He is a perfect fit for the Jets. I would not offer him big money or tell him he is a starter. I would tell him I want him to lead by example in a secondary that is going to have to find itself. But I would also tell him that he is most welcome.

For those who are basketball fans, a successful Jet season to me would be what the Knicks have done this year: - They had no positive expectations - An owner who was always mocked (Dolan) finally found a good GM (Rose) who hired a legitimate HC (Thibodeau) - That HC brought in a good player development staff that improved players before the season and most importantly during the season (Randle, Barrett, Burks, Robinson, Noel, Quickley) - They developed an identity in how they play (relentless defense) which allowed them to "punch above their weight" and hang around .500 - And as the season comes to a close they're playing their best ball and are closing in on a playoff spot

mistake 100 year old vet you are too loyal too cause he was awesome sauce in your previous gig and if he starts to fail hesitance to stick his ass on the bench or cut him. See Frank Gore

Good thing we have one of the most respected, highly touted, up and coming young gm in the league who wont make those mistakes. What a time to be a jet fan. Enjoy guys!!!

Teven Jenkins to the Jets has been popular for a little while now and credit to Tony Pauline who first introduced the scoop. uStadium has mentioned the same, and people in the Jets front office feel like he will be the pick if he's there at 23. Agents think the 49ers decision genuinely comes down to Trey Lance and Mac Jones. It's not about not liking Fields, it's simply preferring the other options. No one knows what the Falcons are going to ultimately do. The feeling is that Arthur Blank - whose generally a observing, marco-manager type - will ultimately make the call. People think that Bengals are going Chase no matter what. The reasoning is kind of interesting. Chase's agents have been calm/cool/collected and haven't been trying to "sell" their client, nor have they been overly eager to get him meetings or ask teams to consider him, which kind of says something about the floor they feel like they have. His agents also represent Ezekiel Elliott, and they gave off the "same vibe" back when DAL selected him 4th. They have a good reputation of supporting their clients and are pretty methodical. And yes, the difference between going 5 and 6 is $1 million, so they care. keeping things close to the vest, and think Chase will be a Bengal FWIW. A very well place source maintains their belief that Micah Parsons will be a Dolphin. Same person told me not to believe the hype around drafting a skill-position player when they were at #3 very early in the process. They don't see Chase or Sewell there so if Pitts goes #4 or #5, I think we'll be in for a surprise. If Lance falls out of the top 5, everyone thinks the Broncos are going for him. If not, it's Micah Parsons or trade down

This is quite possibly the dumbest thread on this board Which would place it high in the running for dumbest thread worldwide.

Wow. Carolina passing on Fields and watching him head to NE would be one of the worst things to see happen in NFL history.

Bit, you've continually made the argument that the owner has no incentive to win and is cheap. Now you're making the argument for attracting corporate sponsors who want to be associated with winners because it's a profit center for the team. You're literally all over the place. There's another option. The Jets GM and coaches think Zach Wilson is the best QB prospect on the board at 2. Despite the obvious advantage of having a black QB in NYC with companies like Chase and American Express wantingto look WOKE they go with the best prospect? Sometimes consensus isn't a conspiracy.

With pick 227 of the draft, Fat Alice from Dallas selects Tony Poljan, TE, Virginia. A former QB, Poljan has the size and athleticism to become a starter in the NFL. #228 Bears @HawkeyeJet OTC #229 Jaguars @NYJetsVets91 on deck #230 Washington @GREENBEAN 3rd up

Griffin was coming off an ACL that he tore late in 2019. I think they wait to see what he looks like in camp before making a decision on him. If he looks like his pre-injury self he’s probably worth the $3 mil a year

I am amazed how some guys linger on the roster for years without any apparent benefit to the team.

I agree, but Humphrey wasn't even on that list...which makes me consider who valuable the list is a whole.

Greenseed4 takes both of my OT prospects back to back. Greedy bastard.

At least one from the top 5 and 1 project. Hopefully we can get Clark on the field this year.

I did 2 different ones, one where I traded down a few times for future picks and one where i made 0 trades. Both are really nice in my opinion. Without Trades: Wit Trades:

Do it, and then let him wear #24.

We need another thread title change. This should be titled; "Any information presented that speaks negatively regarding Zachapono is uniformed hog wash from a wannabe draftnik that doesnt know nearly as much as I do because I listen to the real draftniks who are on TV everyday and I know there face so I believe what they say because they're handsome and it fits my narrative of ball washing everything Zachapono does on film despite it being treacherous."

But all attitude. Always love that dude.

Man who sign Richard Sherman, accomplish anything.

Yep. 2013 was a true minefield of draft busts

Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack were these can't-miss, high floor guards that never really panned out.

4 things to know about new Jets DL coach Aaron Whitecotton https://jetswire.usatoday.com/lists/new-york-jets-aaron-whitecotton-things-to-know-robert-saleh/ Tyler Calvaruso January 26, 2021 11:33 am Robert Saleh’s first Jets coaching staff is littered with experience, but it also features a handful of young, up-and-comers in the profession. Among them are Aaron Whitecotton, who followed Saleh from San Francisco to New York after working as the 49ers’ assistant defensive line coach last season. Whitecotton’s relationship with Saleh goes far beyond their time together in San Francisco, though, as the two first crossed paths years ago in Jacksonville. Let’s get to know a little bit more about the Jets’ new defensive line coach. Stints with Saleh AP Photo/Scot Tucker This won’t be the first time Whitecotton and Robert Saleh have shared a sideline. Whitecotton spent four seasons as an assistant defensive line coach and a defensive assistant with the Jaguars, where he first crossed paths with Saleh. The two reunited in San Francisco last season, as Whitecotton joined Kyle Shanahan’s staff as an assistant defensive line coach. With Saleh working as San Francisco’s defensive coordinator, he and Whitecotton worked together closely. That chemistry likely led Saleh to bring Whitecotton with him to the Big Apple. Former Enemy It wasn’t too long ago that Whitecotton was prepping to take on the Jets twice a season. Whitecotton worked as an assistant defensive line coach with the Bills from 2018-19. His tenure with Buffalo provided him with valuable experience working under Sean McDermott, but also familiarity with New York and the rest of the AFC East landscape. That could prove useful when the Jets put together their defensive gameplans in 2021. Whitecotton played an instrumental role in shaping Buffalo’s third-ranked defense in 2019, helping two of its defensive linemen to career years. Jordan Phillips and Shaq Lawson both registered career-highs in sacks under Whitecotton’s watch. Phillips was a force on the Bills’ defensive line with 9.5 sacks, while Lawson made an impact rushing off the edge with 6.5 sacks. With Whitecotton coaching Phillips and Lawson to standout seasons, Buffalo allowed less than 300 yards of total offense per game in 2019. Whitecotton also left a lasting impact on rookie Ed Oliver, as he registered five sacks and made the PFWA All-Rookie team.

I really like D'Ante Smith - from East Carolina. I think he will move inside and be a guard. Showed out at the Senior Bowl. Almost took him with my last pick for the Rams, but I already picked a small-school OL and needed a CB

It does? The only thing it's telling me is that Saleh is not satisfied with the CB corps the team has entering the draft, despite claims that this group is just fine because they're just playing zone. The problem with signing someone like Sherman is if he's not a huge hit he's a huge fail. He's going to keep younger guys on the bench, even if they might've been good enough to start, and - as @Beerfish points out - he's going to be nearly impossible to bench if Saleh pushes hard for his GM to go pick him up. It'll be like Bowles/Cromartie, or that's the concern, and it's a legit one at that. Oh, and it's a dead-end signing. If he's there to mentor then pay him $15MM off the salary cap to be the secondary coach for all I care. He's 33. That's not 36, but it's not 30 either, and he isn't exactly coming off a career year or getting better at this stage either. The hope is he isn't much worse. He's had a great career, but imo see who's there in the draft before pre-benching someone who might have an actual future here.