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  1. Very interesting read if you have 5 minutes. According to this article Sherwood / Nasirildeen are virtual locks to make roster https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/robert-saleh-ulbrich-linebacker-roles-jets/ Throughout the course of spring and early summer, we’ve scouted this entire New York Jets linebacker core with feature articles for the majority of its personnel. Now it’s time to figure out how it all pieces together in training camp. To project the roles and usage of each player in this group, we must first understand this 4-3 defense. This system has storied ties that span back to the legendary Monte Kiffin, and it has a history of developing linebackers and putting them in a position to succeed at mastering their craft. ALL the latest Jets news straight to your inbox! Join the Heavy on Jets newsletter here! Understanding Saleh’s 4-3 SchemeRobert Saleh and Jeff Ulbrich stem from the Pete Carroll coaching tree that has its roots tied to the aforementioned Kiffin. When Gus Bradley was Carroll’s defensive coordinator with the Seattle Seahawks, the two new Jets coaches were on their staff. Kyle Breitkreutz of The 49ers Hub wrote that this defense is unique because it “values speed, instincts and athleticism over size.” Nearly every Joe Douglas draft pick on the defensive side since Saleh joined the organization has fit this mold. Carroll’s 4-3 was famous for playing Cover-3 on the back-end. The basic Cover-3 drops the two outside cornerbacks into a deep zone along with the free safety who plays centerfield. This system generally rushes four and has the linebackers and strong safety cover both the flats and the “middle hook” zones. As the league began to catch up to this scheme during Saleh’s time in San Francisco, the Niners’ DC decided to adapt, transforming into what the NFL world refers to as a Cover-3 Buzz. In this variation of the 4-3, the outside corners show press coverage and either drop back when the ball is snapped or jam at the line and switch into a man-to-man look. One of the two safeties (usually the strong safety) also becomes the “buzz” defender and moves up into the middle of the defense, rather than guarding the flats. Focusing on the run game, there are usually three go-to formations in Saleh’s system, according to Breitkreutz. 4-3 Over; standard look with three linebackers behind a four-man front that is shifted into the strongside gaps of the offensive line. 4-3 Under; a pass-rushing front that brings the strongside (SAM) linebacker up to the line of scrimmage on the shoulder of the tight end, alongside a defensive end. 4-3 Bear; a run-heavy formation that sometimes calls up two linebackers onto the edge of the defensive front, bringing up the strong safety alongside the remaining linebacker. More specifically, the positional breakdowns follow these guidelines. MIKE; middle LB/captain of the unit and “gap destroyer” against the run, key “read defender” both pre-snap and at the heart of zone coverages. SAM; strongside LB that usually matches up with the tight end in the passing game or the “deep hook” zone, assigned gap defender against the run that may also blitz on occasion. WILL; the most “athletic” player in this group is generally the weakside LB, known for his elite open-field tackling on cutbacks and his zone coverage ability in the flats. The Jets have been constructing their linebacker personnel around this scheme, so let’s dive into how this unit might look in 2021. Jets Linebacker Personnel Let’s start with the players, led by returning four-time Pro Bowler C.J. Mosley. So long as Douglas doesn’t make a move for a veteran, nine linebacker possibilities are competing for a job. Mosley; MIKE-backer, captain of this linebacker core. Jarrad Davis; former first-round pick that flamed out in Detroit, is projected to start at SAM linebacker due to his experience. Blake Cashman; the oft-injured 2019 fifth-round pick out of Minnesota. Jamien Sherwood; a thumper box safety out of Auburn that could become a prototypical WILL linebacker due to his expert tackling ability. Hamsah Nasirildeen; another college safety that was known for his rare physical attributes at Florida State, coming off a torn ACL but supposedly 100%. Noah Dawkins; an athletic converted defensive end that has logged over 98% of his NFL snaps on special teams. Del’Shawn Phillips; former undrafted prospect with Ulbrich in Atlanta, likely outside linebacker or special teamer if he makes the roster. Camilo Eifler; 2021 undrafted free-agent that profiles as a hard-hitting WILL linebacker that could become an asset on special teams. Brendon White; 2021 undrafted tweener prospect out of Rutgers that profiled as a box safety in college, still unclear if the Jets consider White as a defensive back or linebacker. Out of these nine, five or six are likely to make the Week 1 roster. The Jets will have to make some tough decisions after the preseason and I do believe that safety and linebacker combined will make up a total of nine spots, rather than 10. Gang Green drafted a couple of these tweener-hybrid talents for a reason and I expect Douglas to maximize his 53-man group by dropping one ‘typical’ backup at these five starting roles. That would mean asking one or two players like Sherwood, Nasirildeen or White to learn LB and safety. You also have to consider that the 4-3 scheme only starts two linebackers a large portion of the time in the modern-day NFL. Anytime the defense shifts to nickel, big-nickel or dime, which would happen most times the opposition fields pass-heavy sets with three or four wide receivers, that third linebacker could drop in favor of an extra safety or nickelback. Michael Nania of Jets X-Factor determined that Saleh only used a third linebacker an average of 26% of snaps in 2020. In Atlanta, Ulbrich used the third linebacker approximately 31% of snaps. Projecting Jets Linebackers Assuming they stay healthy, Mosley and Davis are the locks to make the roster. I don’t necessarily see Davis as a 95% snap guy like Nania does, but he should get a healthy chunk of playing time behind Mosley. I could see Davis subbing out for a WILL linebacker on passing downs. Despite a solid coverage grade from Pro Football Focus in 2020, the former Lion has not excelled in this area throughout his career with an atrocious 30.0 grade in 2019 and a 64.5 in 2018. His most consistent strength in Detroit was his ability as a pass-rusher. I expect that the rookie out of Auburn, Sherwood, becomes the prospect to watch in 2021. He was created to play in this defense and Ulbrich’s praise in practice has really highlighted his intelligence and football IQ. Cashman is another key player to watch in training camp. Although he’s trying out at WILL, he’s the only real MIKE-backer on the roster outside of Mosley and Davis. I could see the Mike Maccagnan draft pick getting cut if his injury issues persist. I could also see him starting at WILL, or backing up Mosley at MIKE. The ripple effects of Cashman’s roster chances will certainly affect players like Eifler, Dawkins, Phillips and White. Special teams duties will also play a major role. In the end, here are my unofficial projections for the 2021 Green and White linebacker core.
    7 points
  2. The Jets are building a whole new thing. It’s not a rebuild, it’s foundational. They’re gonna get the kids on the field at CB, LB, WR and see what they have. They’re not in the rush some fans are, they’re trying to do it the right way. In this defense, that means a different breed of CB.
    7 points
  3. try to put less stupid in your next cup of coffee.
    6 points
  4. Richard Sherman was a fifth round pick. This defense looks for different traits than traditional press/man CBs, and they drafted a few and want to see what they have in a foundational year. It’s the smart move in a year when you’re not expecting to contend. Develop what you have by getting them on the field, supplement next year when you have a better idea of what you have and where you’re going.
    5 points
  5. What amazes me is how everyone is so sure Morgan is so bad without ever seeing him throw one pass in live action. How about we give him a least a chance to show us just how good or bad he is, before throwing him under the bus. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
    5 points
  6. Scum please kill me. Please. I’m not doing this me vs Dice and Nyn sh*t again. Legit if you don’t kill me im voting myself the rest of the way.
    5 points
  7. It was just before sunrise, but MM hadn’t slept a wink. He’s just gotten done with his 5th one minute bang of the night, but couldn’t get the events of the past 3 days from his mind as he took another drag from his cigarette. A juvenile corrections officer and published author in a magazine/newsletter, MM had seen a lot of sh*t. Hell this wasn’t even his first time around the block tracking supes. But this? They were on the verge of blowing the lid off the story of the century and taking down Vought for good, but was it worth the cost? He heard a creak downstairs. Maybe he was just paranoid. But with what he’d been up to, you can’t be too careful. He grabbed his gun and headed downstairs. Hallway? Clear. Kitchen? Clear. Living room? Clear. Paranoia it was. He went to the bathroom and splashed some cold water on his face. It was clear he wasn’t getting any sleep tonight anyway, so might as well be sharp. As he turned off the faucet, he glanced up into the mirror. ”Wow,” he muttered to himself. “The Boys are right. My sexiness is unbelievable.” If he wasnt understandably distracted by his incredible good looks, MM might have seen the little red dot in the mirror as it made its way from over his shoulder onto the back of his head. The last thing before the bullet splattered his brains was his gorgeous face staring back at him. Not a bad way to go out. Good night, sweet prince. Greenseed, aka Gsexy, aka MOTHER’S MILK - TOWN TRACKER, has been shot in his Greenpeen.
    4 points
  8. Looks like Saleh and JD are sincere in their plan to give the youngsters reps and opportunity to grow. In under the best circumstances, expect a lot of big whiffs by the secondary in Year 1.
    4 points
  9. So, you’re following Zach’s mom on social media? Boy , do we need this season to start. Lol
    4 points
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  12. Yeah dude, I think you've let everyone how know how you feel about Mostert. So, you tend to either love someone and think they are a direct clone of a past HOFer or you hate them and think they are complete trash. Generally if you compare ANYONE to someone you have in your first group, that player will end up in the latter group. Obviously you've got Mostert in your 2nd category so there is absolutely no point in continuing to talk about this anymore, but I'm going to reply one last time. Try this: Say the OP said that MC projects to maybe 1050-1100 all purpose yards in this offense while leading the team in rushing. Are you OK now? (Probably not) But that was my last attempt regardless. For someone that spends so much time on this board teaching everyone else why this player ot that player is the greatest ever, you selectively decide when your reading comp skills are for sh*t dude. The op isn't even outright disagreeing with you, you're just having zero ability to comprehend what they or anyone else is saying. "What gives you the right to compare him Mostert" - ARE YOU SERIOUS?! How about being a human being? Having a brain? The 1st amendment? What gives you the right to question, literally, everything that anyone else says? Half the time you're not even understanding what they said in the first place, but you argue their right to say it.
    4 points
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  15. Tom Brady has been a "game manager" his entire career, aside from a few years when he had Moss. Managing the game is how you are supposed to play the position unless you have rare talent like mahomes. I hope that Zach Wilson spends the first part of his career learning how to manage the game, when to take chances and when to throw it away. When to force a ball and when to eat a sack. These are the plays that win games. Brady hasnt had an elite arm in 10 years and yet consistently wins because he doesnt make game losing mistakes. Now, do I also hope that Wilson has the athletic ability and arm talent to put up huge points and take chances that other QBs cant afford to, absolutely. But learning how to manage a game as a QB isnt a bad thing.
    4 points
  16. Game manager as a rookie would be fine and let him grow into the job. Brady and Roethlisberger were game managers for their first super bowl.
    4 points
  17. Gotta love the composure of Megill. He is the anti-Matz. In regard to seeing teams a second time, of his 6 starts, 2 have been repeat appearances against the same club. June 23 ATL. 4.1 IP, 2ER June 29 ATL 5.0 IP, 3 ER July 10 Pit. 3.2 IP, 1ER July 17 Pit. 6 IP, 0ER
    3 points
  18. Green was an UDFA and had more interceptions at this stage of their careers than the #6 overall pick. Green earned his way onto the field, Adams was handed it. Pro bowls and all pros are political, and Adams singular greatest strength is as a self-promoter. It’s easy when you’re a high pick. When low valued positions are drafted high, they get an outsized amount of attention. Adams is a blowhard, and if Seattle does wind up paying him, it will just add to their regret.
    3 points
  19. You actually took that as jif claiming doc? lol
    3 points
  20. Fortunately for you, we grade stupidity on a curve around here. Don't worry, @dbatesman you're practically a MENSA member around these parts.
    3 points
  21. That gif could be the standard response to every single thread about covid is this week!
    3 points
  22. Yo next time you’re in Nashville we gotta hit golf and I’ll let you buy the Clase. Lol
    3 points
  23. Needed a break from vaccination discussion. Obviously it appears that it is Sherwood’s job to lose. 40% of snaps at Will and I’m sure he’ll get additional snaps in a 4-2-5 look.
    3 points
  24. Now that I'm watching, there was 5 minutes of 2020 highlights, and the final 25 minutes is devoted to the 2021 upcoming season. Makes sense!!!
    3 points
  25. I dont need pointless highlight videos to know football today vs football in the 1960's & 70's is pussy football. And if you think you have less of a chance of getting your ass handed to you in the 60's (Maynard didnt play in the 50's...no point) youre out there. Thinking that if the dbs of today played in the lawless 60's they would do more harm isnt the point. The point is the players like Tatum etc did more damage than players of today who cant even put a finger on a WR running a pattern. Add to it Maynard had the numbers, averaged over 102 yards per game in 67. Actually Maynard had better numbers, again, in 14 game seasons. Dont talk history with some of us, you have no idea what youre talking about.
    3 points
  26. I doubt GB is trading him but if they do have a full on rebuild due to AR then I would pay GB a premium. We have the picks and the cap space to lock him up for at least 4 amazing years. He is that man at WR.
    3 points
  27. $64M for three years of Rodgers, even at 38 is a bargain. And the last two years of his contract are not guaranteed, so if he falls off a cliff you are not stuck with him. So a team that is ready to win now could add him. I think the bigger challenge is the timing for this season. Most contenders have their QBs in place, which is why they are contenders. Late in the offseason to find a deal of this magnitude. So, if you are GB, and he announces his retirement, they may be better off just letting him sit, free up some cap space, and move on. If someone comes calling, answer the phone. Interesting game of chicken, and since it does not involve us, I can sit back with no stress and see how it plays out. And for my Packer fan friends, after 30 years of Favre and Rodgers, its hard for me to feel sorry for them.
    3 points
  28. I can’t wait for the season to start.
    3 points
  29. That's the point to the quick strikes and crossing patterns in the WCO...to bring the defense down to the LOS and take advantage with deep routes. I swear, the binary thinking that goes on here is abysmal.
    3 points
  30. His mom said that he went back to Jersey last Saturday on a social media post yesterday discussing when they heard about the Knapp news.
    3 points
  31. A few items to discuss: 1. Jamal Adams was a starter from day #1. He played many, many minutes in those games. Do you know how many minutes Green played in those first 4 years? I don't know, but until you do know, it aint apples to apples. 2. If Green got 3 interceptions in his first 4 years, then that means that he got 22 interceptions in his next 7 years. Let's see if Adams gets 23 sacks in his next 7 years to match Green, 3. Green got over 900 tackles in his 11 seasons, and 300? in his first 4 years. That means that Green gets more than 600 tackles in his last 7 seasons, or about 90 tackles per season. 4. Last but definitely not least, Adams was picked #6 in the entire NFL draft. Do you know what # Green was picked. He wasn't, he was an undrafted free agent. For my money, I take Victor Green 100 times out of 100 times.
    2 points
  32. seemed like nobody was that interested
    2 points
  33. One point about Alonso. After 2020 and a slow start power wise this season doubts started arising on whether 2019 was a one time deal and he could ever be a high 30-50 Hr guy. But in recent weeks he’s looked like the 2019 Alonso and he’s up to 22.
    2 points
  34. Stark: drunk on good tequila Barry: drunk on Vizzy Jville: too drunk to post Ape: quit job, drunk JiF: drunk in Miami bitch ——— Everyone questioning the sober guy’s logic. This would make for a hilarious whodunnit movie.
    2 points
  35. LaMarcus Joyner and him in the box could be a very interesting duo. There are some real boom/bust prospects in this middle of the D. I really hope Joyner can get his old form back after the raiders tried to convert him to CB.
    2 points
  36. With Butcher heroically sacrificing himself to take out the Homelander, the Boys knew they had Vought on the ropes. ”we cannot let Bufcher and petit Hughie dies in vain,” said Frenchie. ”you’re right,” said MM. “let’s tail Stark and see if we can get some more info to take down these scumbag supes for good.” “That’s a good idea,” Starlighg chimed in. “Word jn the Tower is Stark has a relationship with A-train.” The Boys managed to plant a bug in Starks apartment and they watched from a van inside. But it wasn’t A-Train they saw. Instead, in between Stark downing shots of the finest bourbon and tequila and shooting up Compund V, another one of Starks lovers came to visit and the two immediately started getting hot and heavy. ”Damn. Banging on the V must be something else. Look at Stark go.” And then, just as Stark was about to blow… “OHhh sh*t!” The Boys rushed into the apartment. ”alright Stark tell us everything you know about A-train and compund V or this video gets leaked onto the internet and used in 80’s next fap session.” ”I don’t know anything I swear! All I know is Nyn isn’t involved! That’s it! Please, A-Train’s already looking for me, he knows I’m in your side!” ”Bullsh*t. MM, Frenchie. Upload the video.” resigned to his fate, Stark said “Fine. Do it. But you’ll all learn the truth soon enough.” Before anyone could stop it, Stark whipped out his stash of Compund V and injected all 12 vials. And just like that, Stark was gone. Stark, aka POPCLAW, VANILLA TOWN (gifted 1x cop investigation) has been lynched. It is now night.
    2 points
  37. I like them when it's hot out. I especially like them now I'm on low carb diet and never have anything sweet. People bust my balls about it but idgaf. They can eat my entire ass.
    2 points
  38. I don't think MC is Dalvin Cook now go kick rocks. lol
    2 points
  39. Enunwa got hurt but I think he had a lot of talent and potential - don't really blame anyone for that We got our money's worth out of Anderson even with the extra 1.3 million. Osemele was horrible, but these things happen so it might have been worth a shot JD cut his losses with Darnold pretty effectively - could have been a lot worse Bell and Johnson were horrible signings from Day 1
    2 points
  40. I'll click where I want to click and post where I want to post.
    2 points
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