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  1. Good to be back, let's get started with initial impressions. We'll see if these hold true with the two other practices I'll be attending: General Notes - Props to the staff for the smooth movement of 1000+ fans to the practice facility - Practice ran 2 hours and 40 minutes - Shockingly players were in jerseys & shorts (not even shells). Usually by day four pads are worn - With no pads there were no 1 on 1 periods to really break down players movement skills - For the most part it was a 50/50 practice with each side of the ball "flashing" during certain periods New Staff Notes - Practice has three portions now a 24 minute individual warmup period where players work with their position coaches. A 15 minute offense/defense installation period and then the formal practice begins. During the calisthenics period the performance staff added ball skills, where the players had to catch the ball while exercising - As mentioned before only jerseys & shorts on a day that full pads usually come on - During the 15 minute installation period the defense really emphasized the coordination of LB's & DB's in their coverage responsibilities. At various points Jeff Ulbrich (DC) would pull a LB, CB and S and send a route combination at them to see if they knew what they were doing - The DLine staff has brought in a blocking sled that is MUCH lower to the ground than normal. Forcing the DLinemen to get low in their stances and to get underneath OLinemen. Because as the saying goes in line play "the low man wins" - I don't know if this is what Mike Lafleur (OC) normally does but in the initial 11 on 11 periods he really emphasizes the running game. Then later on he opened up the pass game Player Notes - The players auditioning for PR are Elijah Moore, Braxton Berrios, Michael Carter and Keelan Cole - Carl Lawson is going to be a problem. Relentless pursuit in rushing the passer, excellent get off and a wide variety of moves and hand actions. It was a pleasure watching him go against Mekhi Becton, they should really push each other to be better - The DLine as a whole has much more freedom in getting up the field. To the point where Sheldon Rankins pulled a "Dwight Freeney spin move" from his DT position to rush the passer. Quinnen Williams will be scary in this scheme when he comes back. But that comes with a price because with the emphasis on attacking upfield they got "gashed" a couple of times on cut backs - Nice to finally see a creative run scheme straight out of the "Shanahan book". Tons of motions to influence the defense and out of the same formation multiple plays can be run for multiple players. Michael Carter and Tevin Coleman stood out, showing the ability to read the play and determining when/if it was time to cut back - The OLine was effective in run blocking but they'll need to stiffen up in pass blocking. At assorted times the DLine really pushed the pocket causing QB's to throw on the run. Nice holes opened on the left side by Mekhi Becton and Alijah Vera-Tucker - Solid coverage for the most part by the back seven as they seemed to work on matchup zones. Covering receivers to a certain point and then passing them off to another player. They were solid in their assignments to the point were the QB's had to hold the ball for what would be a "sack". An impressive, acrobatic INT by Jason Pinnock (from his back) off of Mike White as he returned it for a TD (30+ yards) QB Notes - They seemed to be "over repping" Zach Wilson to get him up to speed from the two days he missed. And the talents you see on his tape and from his BYU Pro Day were on display. The play of the day was his 80 yard TD (50 yards in the air) to Elijah Moore. Wilson got pressure from his right side, shifted to the left side of the pocket and "flicked" the ball to Moore in stride 50 yards down the right side of the field. In addition you saw Wilson's ability to create when things broke down and throw with accuracy and velocity even when his feet aren't on the ground. It would be nice to finally not be teased by a young QB, we'll see - Surprising performance by James Morgan, he's big and not overly mobile so you wouldn't think he would fit in this offense. But he did a good job moving within the pocket and showed a strong and accurate arm. His two best throws were a 20+ yard seam strike to Tyler Kroft and a 40+ yard TD to DJ Montgomery Standouts - Zach Wilson - Carl Lawson - Elijah Moore - Michael Carter - Jason Pinnock Concerns - DLine run defense on cut backs - OLine need to tighten up the pocket for the QB's
    47 points
  2. That’s kinda of day old news Kev. Just like Wilson, Captain Morgan came alive in front of the fans. Please try to keep up. Ok?
    17 points
  3. Yes, he’s a good, likable leader and player. No, that doesn’t mean Douglas should pay him. At the end of the day he’s still a 28-year old Safety. Enough with the Maccagnan-era thinking, please.
    11 points
  4. I don’t like seeing any fan base lose their team but those maniacs in Buffalo might burn down that inbred city if this was actually to happen
    10 points
  5. Disagree with that view it makes Becton sound like he's a turnstile, he's not. For the first time since John Abraham we have a legit edge rusher and in my opinion people don't know how to react to it. So they want to dump on Becton and not just give Lawson credit for the skills that he has. They challenge each other on every rep
    9 points
  6. Overheard on the sideline: "Hey, Darron Lee, just wait until we get pads on."
    8 points
  7. Amazing how true this actually is. Clear, concise, factual, analytical (but only a little, appropriately so). But won't sell papers or website hits......and, we see why no one has rushed to hire KRL. He's providing insight, not selling us on outrage.
    8 points
  8. Correction: NYDN sure knows how to TRAIN them.
    8 points
  9. So much better than the folks who get paid for this. KRL, you missed your calling! Thanks for this!
    8 points
  10. Call their bluff and tell them to f off. There should be no negotiation in the NFL these guys make billions if they want new stadium etc then lay out the cash and build it, you know the old fashion way of actually paying for your own infrastructure with your own capital.
    7 points
  11. Strange because I seem to recall him looking impressive in actual NFL games as a rookie. Certainly year 2 is off to a bit of a rough start but then again he did just make a pretty nice catch on a throw from Wilson today. I see little reason to be pessimistic just yet. Actual good things on the field outweigh silly July depth charts.
    7 points
  12. More like clueless. I guess he's never been around real team fans before. This guy is a jerk off and I'll bet his spelling, vocabulary and grammatical mistakes are intentional. Either that or he is just in the bottom quartile at best for those skills. South Florida education.
    7 points
  13. 7 points
  14. 7 points
  15. I live in Austin, it is NOT a destination for an NFL franchise.
    6 points
  16. I'm 6 foot 4 inches. Those are two separate measurements.
    6 points
  17. 6 points
  18. "Size"? I'm confused now. The same media types blowing Tua (6'1 215), Kyler (5'10, 205) and Baker (6'0, 215) keep telling me that Zach is "undersized" at 6'2 215
    6 points
  19. Honestly, I dont think they have a depth chart yet. These dudes seem all interchangeable for the most part. I imagine if Davis or Cole are injured, he's the next man up to play outside. I think the fun part of the WR group is that they can all line up at any position, which is also another reason why Mims could be running with 2nd/3rd teamers....to get more reps at certain positions. For example, if they wanted him to get a lot of run playing the X and Z, he's not going to if he's running with the 1's or if they wanted to see him vs. a certain type of corner, that would factor as well. Again, people looked way too much into this, especially considering he had nice day with a couple of 1st down grabs yesterday. With Zach's passion for throwing the contested jump ball, Mims could be a big player maker in this offense.
    6 points
  20. I was a big fan of the Mims pick last year. He didn't set the world on fire as a rookie, but, imo, he was fine. Reasonable production when he was healthy. I also saw a lot of plays on tape last year where he got open, but wasn't targeted. I don't what kind of pro he will be. It is up to him to show he can produce. But at the very least, it is nice to know that we have a strong enough depth chart so that, even if he struggles, as so many seem to expect, we should still be fine. Davis, Cole, Crowder, Mims, Moore, Berrios as PR. That is a deeper WR room than we have had in years.
    6 points
  21. This really sounds like last year's Q debate. Way too soon to say what we got here but the talent is unmistakable. Still very optimistic.
    6 points
  22. Insights from Today’s Jets Practice Four of our writers and podcast hosts offer their takeaways from seeing the Jets in person today. Turn on the Jets was fortunate to have four writers and hosts at today’s Jets practice. In this article, they share with you their impressions of the day’s events, ranging from Zach Wilson’s performance to Jeff Ulbrich’s defense. What were your impressions of watching Zach Wilson in person today? Matt Gianesses: Zach looked very comfortable today. He threw mostly good, accurate balls with only a few incompletions – one of which was a drop. His throws have significantly more zip on them than the other two QBs on the field, (Morgan and White). The ball flies out of his hand. Stephen Zantz: Zach looked great. He was decisive and accurate. The Elijah Moore deep ball is going to big talking point but Zach made a ton of other solid throws. Besides the Moore TD, he had a great rollout bullet throw to Denzel Mims. Overall, this was a great bounce back practice for Zach after a rough day 1. What are your thoughts on Mike LaFleur’s offense now that you’ve seen it in person? Matt Gianesses: It’s hard to tell this early on, but Zach rolled out of the pocket more than once, which was something Gase refrained from designing for his quarterbacks. I also found it amusing seeing a pre-snap motion in training camp, as Gase-led offenses rarely motioned in the regular season. Stephen Zantz: It’s polar opposite to what we saw with Adam Gase. The biggest thing I noticed was amount of rollouts and use of Zach’s feet. Gase never let Darnold run so it was nice to see an offensive coordinator that is utilizing a QB’s athleticism. Jet fans should be happy that we now have a seblance of what an offense should look in the 2021 NFL. Did any other offensive players stand out to you for positive reasons? Matt Gianesses: To me, Elijah Moore looks like a seasoned NFL veteran. Not just from his on field play, but from the way he carries himself throughout stretches, drills, and team huddles. You could find him dancing, instigating the crowd, and cheering on his teammates. He looks like he’s been here before. Today’s practice was notable because of how well Zach Wilson played. Based on reports, it seems like the defense struggled. Was that your impression of today’s practice? Matt Gianesses: The secondary definitely struggled. The pass rush did not. There were throws from Wilson, Morgan, and White that easily would have resulted in sacks. Lawson put on an absolute clinic in his limited reps. Stephen Zantz: I wouldn’t say the defense struggled as a whole but the secondary was very shaky. A few nice PBUs but overall they were cooked by Zach. Carl Lawson was held relatively in check by Becton today but the DL was getting into the backfield a lot today. Zach’s bomb TD to Moore probably would have been a sack if it was a real game because he held onto the ball for about 4-5 seconds. I think the defense was solid but the offense was just better today. Were there any standout players on defense that you noticed? Matt Gianesses: Carl Lawson pressured the quarterback on what felt like every other rep he took today. He was a nightmare for the offense. The Jets desperately need to keep him healthy alongside Quinnen Williams. Stephen Zantz: No one specifically stuck out to me on defense. Granted most of my attention was on the offense looking for big plays. The one thing I will say was Saleh was super involved in the cornerback positional drills. It was great to see him providing input on a unit that definitely needs work. Are there any other observations or thoughts that you would like to share with fans based on today’s practice? Stephen Zantz: The biggest takeaway I have is that Elijah Moore is going to be a really good player for the Jets for a long time as long as he is healthy. You can see the difference between him and everyone else. His route running and speed combination was awesome to see. He looked like the best player out there today. Something I also loved to see was how involved Saleh was with all the units during practice. I saw him taking notes as he walked around the field. It was just really refreshing to see his approach conmpared to what Gase was doing the past two years. Overall, it was a great day for the fans and I highly recommend people try and go to a practice or the green/white game.
    6 points
  23. Nothing I can say is gonna win over the doubters at this point. Conversely, same with those who are optimistic. Just gonna have to let Denzel tell the true story this year— i will say that some of the concerns related to this “play” are flat out imaginary.
    6 points
  24. All the people with anything are fleeing NY and NJ, why shouldn't NFL teams?
    5 points
  25. I would be sooo pissed off right now if I was 12.
    5 points
  26. That’s terrible. Went to school upstate in the 80’s. Went to Buffalo games drunk AF with Jets hat/ shirt on, Had beer thrown at me, verbally abused and couple times physically threatened. Those Western NY yahoo’s love their team as much as anyone. That sucks, hopefully doesn’t happen. If they move them, put them in Canada, might take half the fan base a decade to get a passport but least they would have a fighting chance.
    5 points
  27. Not after I get done with them!
    5 points
  28. Becton’s right arm and Lawson’s left thigh seem interchangeable. As does Lawson’s left arm and Becton’s neck in terms of diameter. scary stuff what physical specimens these Jets players the GM has brought in ………..
    5 points
  29. The irrational hatred for a backup QB by some in this fanbase is truly weird.
    5 points
  30. Becton is a big boy. It looks like he’s wearing shoulder pads.
    5 points
  31. I think Mims’ primary competition at the Z receiver is Moore, and he might’ve already lost. In OTAs, when Moore and Cole were on the field at the same time it was Cole in the slot. My original thinking on Moore was expecting gadget type plays designed for him just to get the ball in his hands, but he seems to’ve surpassed that kinda work already. He might already be the best receiver on the team. But Mims will see the field, and Moore probably moves to the slot when they and Davis are out there together. Even if he’s not starting, he’s likely to see a lot of third down/red zone targets. He’s a big body willing to catch the ball in traffic. That’s useful. He’s probably the backup to Davis at the X, too.
    5 points
  32. Well step aside, I have a Fitzpatrick jersey.
    5 points
  33. I want to thank everyone again for the prayers and donations. We shut the donation part down, the response there was so overwhelming. Seriously don't have the words to describe the appreciation we feel and how much it helps. Takes the guilt out of ordering food in for the rest of the year. Helps so much! Beyond our wildest dreams. Bone scan this week, and chemo is just under the halfway point. 9 weekly treatments left and every 3rd week they add in two hormone therapies. Pray, please pray. Thank you!
    5 points
  34. Kenny Yeboah do anything today? Looking for angle to complain.
    5 points
  35. Collect all 4! SAR I
    5 points
  36. My advice would be to hold off for 2-3 years and then if they warrant it, get you a Wilson/Moore/Q. Williams jersey. Take it from the dipsh*t who got suckered into buying Pennington, Ty Law and Darnold jerseys. Never again If you’re going to get a jersey, then buy a nice Mitchell & Ness throwback like Namath, Maynard or Klecko that you never have to worry about burning money on. Or a late 90’s throwback like Chrebet or Martin if it tickles your fancy. Otherwise, you’ll probably end up using it as a rag to wash your car within 3 years.
    5 points
  37. Anything judging offensive line without pads is just stupid. Offensive line is about violence.....just doesn't work without pads. Moses will be fine.
    5 points
  38. Hope he has a fantastic season and Joe D wants to franchise him again next year.
    5 points
  39. I don't want Moore or Carter anywhere near punt returns.
    5 points
  40. Maybe I’m just a delusional homer Jets fan but I think we’re gonna have a winning record lol… 9-8 at least!
    4 points
  41. "So, here's the deal tiny, Middle class Blue Collar, Rust Belt City....all of your industry shut down, the economy has been a locked down, stagnant mess, many of you are living on soon to expire Federal Assistance and Mortgage protection programs, and good jobs are pretty scarce, but if you don't pony up a few Billion in taxpayer provided subsidies for our multi-billionaire owners and our Mega Valuable sports league for a venue thats going to be used about 15 times a year, we betray all of you and abandon one of the best fan bases in sports, in a place with not much else going for it in the exact moment we actually have optimism moving forward" Wow, **** them.
    4 points
  42. Austin is filled to the brim with hipster California transplants at this point. Most Texans don’t even really acknowledge it as part of the state anymore.
    4 points
  43. man, i totally forgot we signed S. Rankins... If that pans out, we'd have a rotating Dline of-- Lawson / Curry Q. Williams / J. Marshall Rankins / Fatukasi Phillips / J. F-Myers I'm surprised there isn't more excitement, or optimism about the D, with Mosely, Davis and Nasirildeen patrolling the middle.... I know the red pen is hovering over our secondary - but i get this vibe there was deliberate intent in selecting/ signing Dunn/Guidry/Hall/Pinnock/Echols - think our Corners are going to surprise the NFL with their hunger and opportunistic play in our D-scheme.
    4 points
  44. Lol he's a 4th rounder and it's his 2nd year. Zero reason to obsess/call him a bust so soon.
    4 points
  45. Let’s not nip this in the bud just yet, okay? I think another ten page thread bitching about a fourth round pick is probably in order.
    4 points
  46. Thank you. The Jets have Maye for 2 yrs 23 mil. 13 mil non guaranteed. Why do we want to see our gm lock us into more for the same product so badly? All i heard was a NY media desperate for an antagonistic sound byte throughout that entire interview. So transparent and gross IMO. Bringing up Jamal numerous times. Thank goodness for a GM with a sack Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
    4 points
  47. He tweets like a seventh grader. So unprofessional.
    4 points
  48. Not so proud owner of a darnold jersey here. Wait
    4 points
  49. Even the manufacturers are tired of the revolving door Jets roster.
    4 points
  50. This is actually what I picture the crypto people look like.
    4 points
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