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Taking Hamilton is a safe pick in the same way that Leonard Williams and Quinnen Williams were safe picks. You'll be getting a quality starter who cements a position for the length of their contract. Hamilton will end up being a middle of the pack safety who doesn't move the needle forward or backward. No more safe picks. Premium position needle movers only with the high picks.

I'm good until Rich Eisen declines to run at the Combine and pushes it off to his pro day.

Stingley is the only guy in this draft I absolutely want no part of

Players running the 40 at their pro days:

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Translation: SAR was always a Tom Shane Alt Account. Well, at least now we know.

I chatted with him in DMs a month or so ago. Not to put words in his mouth, but the gist of it was that the current team is so bad and the coach and GM are so pathetic that it’s not even worth inciting you clowns regarding the future prospects of the Jets franchise as presently constituted. He felt like it wasn’t sporting, like killing baby deers with a flamethrower.

I only came into this thread to burn it down, because I thought it was about Bradway.

No Re-sign Flacco for another year What exactly does Bridgewater bring to the table besides being more expensive? Teddy is what he is at this point. A solid #2 and a career gamemanager. The Jets don’t need to be spending $8+ million a year on a backup to Wilson.

Sauce is shaping our to be the best prospect in the draft. What he has done the past two seasons hasn't been hype up enough. Probably because his team isn't being featured on BSPN. If Hutchinson season was special then what Gardner placed together was even better. Not even a team like Bama who get an abundance of throwing time couldn't exploit him.

In before the old timers share their first fap story of Ali McGraw

This reminds me of that saying: “How do you make a small fortune in the oil business?” ”Start with a large one”

Honestly, he’s smart to do so. He got the money, he got the ring, gets to call it quits now and keep his health.

Bridgewater is an almost perfect QB for the Shanahan system - accurate, smart, a good leader. His last three years, his completion percentage has been 67.9%, 69.1%, and 66.9%. A better fit than Flacco. But he probably isn't coming to a team where he doesn't see at least a potential to compete for a starting job. But yeah, if he'll come here I'd absolutely take him on my team.

Apologies. You know how triggered I get by Jamal Adams praise.

Ekwonu might be high at 4. But if he ends up being a dominant, Pro Bowl G, who can step in at T in a pinch, I'm all for it. People say interior linemen don't 'move the needle'. Someone brought up the Colts and Nelson being one of the top Guards and yet he hasn't made a major impact. Well, I respectfully disagree. If you can build a dominant O-line (and the interior is a BIG part of that), you completely change the way your offense operates. How effective your run game is. How you can protect your QB. How long you can hold on to the ball and therefore keep it away from the opposing offense. Etc., etc. So yes, you COULD find a very good Guard in FA (they are not cheap btw) or later in the draft. However, the Guard position IS important. It DOES move the needle. It's just not flashy, cn be difficult to measure and you need to have good parts around it. Lets be honest thats true for almost any position- ONE great pass rusher, CB or WR can also be neutralized. The Colts annihilated the Jets by running the ball down their throats. The Cowboys built a dominant O-line which allowed their above average QB to develop into a top 10 QB (he may not be there anymore, but at one point he was) and their stud RB to reach his potential. What Ekwonu does is complete an offensive line that has potential to be, if not dominant, then really, really, good. Assuming Becton comes back and Fant is resigned (which I think will happen). Fant, AVT, McGovern, Ekwonu, Becton is a great lineup which will bully teams in the run game and give Zach extra time to continue his development.

Are you sure he didn’t re-marry?

@munchmemory

Really hoping to see a few of the QBs look razor sharp, accurate and lots of zip on the ball. Having one or two of those guys look just terrific would be very beneficial to the jets. I want to see who is very competitive and do all the drills or some that will tap out and wait for pro days to do things like run the 40. A few drills are actually kind of useful to me when comparing players, the smoothness or DBS in their drills. Not good if you look stiff. Do Wr's catch effortlessly and with their hands. Do RB's look good at catching the ball on RB routes. Now as usual game tape and such trumps all but often you can get a good first impression on players. One I recall was Deshaun Watson, before the combine the big thing was questioning his pass velocity and that he had a weaker arm etc. I look at him in the drills next to all the other QBs and his passes had just as much zip as anyone, he seemed like more of a leader and he was very accurate. There were a few big armed QBs who threw harder but they were badly inaccurate (Davis Webb). After those drills I said, this talk about Watson is utter bsh*t, this guy is really good. No questions at all.

MetLife Stadium is a sh*thole and Jets should move out and build their own stadium somewhere in NYC.

To be honest I don't miss him. I block the dude anyway. He and PatsFanTX and DefenseWinsChampionships just made the whole forum experience completely not fun. We don't all have to agree and we can argue and even troll a little for fun but when it becomes just unending it just gets draining. Like Snell41 telling us 14 times in each thread how much Zach sucks and after every throw in a gameday thread. They just upset the balance and ruin it for everyone else

Banned. Peace Frog doesn't seem like peace is what he is interested in at all.

Jets fans: “Don’t draft the best player in the draft, because he’s a safety and that’s bad value at #4!” Also Jets fans: “Draft the guard at 4!!”

So instead of using our precious cap space to improve this roster every way possible to help this kid succeed you’d rather use it on a backup QB to compete with the #2 pick? I think that’s more detrimental to his success than trying to surround him with as much talent as possible

The difference between Pitts & Hamilton is that pitts is an effective enough receiver that you can just consider in the same way he would consider an elite receiver picked up for overall. And that's how Atlanta is using him. So accepting the pitts pick based on the positional value of tight ends doesn't necessarily make much sense Hamilton is a safety. You can't "use him like a CB" or "use him like an edge" - the only two defensive positions worth drafting that high. The only positional value Hamilton has is safety

Well now we know who the Jets are drafting at #4 and #10

Teddy is also going to cost 3x what it would take to bring back Flacco. This is still very much a rebuilding team that is at least another 2 years away from contention. We shouldn’t be spending that kind of money on a backup QB. A team like the Bengals? Sure. It would be a smart move on their part. But not for us.

What’s funny about Hamilton is that when I watch clips of him supposedly making “special” plays, they actually aren’t special. They show him cover a lot of ground but most of the time the QB has held the ball too long, telegraphed the pass and throw it with little velocity. They aren’t typical NFL plays. For him to be truly special he needs to be elite in coverage and I don’t see that.

Stingley doesn't want NFL teams poking at him, because he will break. Stay away from this guy.

Agreed. Neal is physically and athletically gifted, I highly doubt he is “out of shape”.

Stingley is a day 2 guy. Neal already knows he’s going #1. Gains nothing by working out. I’m fine with it.

Pitts had 68 receptions, and 1,026 yards - good for 2nd all time in rookie TE history, playing for a team that had Joe Bag of Donuts playing at WR all year. When the last time the Jets had a 1000 yard receiver let alone a TE walk away from this one.

This is either really clever, or really ironic, Kevin. 😉

3rd round material.

Not sure if it's out there on YouTube, but I remember Mike Mayock was practically having orgasms while watching Jay Cutler throw at the combine.

Bucs probably motivated to retain Cappa now.

The other piece of this that people don't talk about is the part of the combine we don't see. Which players will be meeting with the Jets during the course of the week. I will be looking for those updates just as much as 40 times, 3-cones, measurements and on-field drills.

PFTX was not a "good sport". He was a troll and not a very good one.

Nakobe Dean measurements and 40 time. Listed at 6' 225, but I don't think he is that big. How high do you take an LB if he measures at 5'11 or less. Even if he runs sub 4.5. I have no idea where he goes right now, but in a few days, he could punch his ticket as a possibility at 10, or could drop out of R1 altogether. Also want to see Karlaftis athleticism. HE is likely to be there for us. Curious what his RAS will look like. Bruce Feldman (The Ahtlietc) talks about him as an athletic freak, but I don't see it watching him play. In general, really want to see how all the edges shake out in terms of athleticism. I assume we will draft one or two, and based on his draft last year, JD seems to like high RAS guys. The edge class likely comes into better focus for us this week.

Very interested in seeing how the edge rushers shake out in 3-cone, 40 & vertical.

Just curious, but how deep did you dive into Kyren Williams? I'm obviously biased towards him, but what made you think he's only a third down back? His size? I thought he was small and shifty, but lacked the break away speed entering his sophomore (RS Freshman) year. Then I watched him run away from Clemson, North Carolina, and Bama defenses. His long speed shows up on the field. His stiff arm is Henry-lite, his patience rivals prime Bell, and some of his shifty moves and balance remind me of Barry Sanders. He has good hands and his pass pro is next level. Obviously he's not those players, but the kid seems to have it all to my untrained eye. I see him as an RB 1a or RB 1b. Definitely a starter and playmaker in a rotation.

Give me the GM that can use both inputs to evaluate talent, rather than the silly fan with reductionist logic that makes every thing binary.

But he has excellent taste in leased late model BMW's, so there is that.

I think we need a @football guy thread pinned that only he can post rumors and things he hears! Good stuff.

Some guys can be big winners or losers at the combine. Some things I’m looking forward to are - Drake London 40 time. Will he run sub 4.5? 4.6? If he’s a 4.6 guy then idk about picking him at 10. Treylon Burks 40 time. Will he blow everyone away with a 4.3? Sauce Garder 40 time. There’s some questions about his speed leading up to the combine. Will he be a 4.45 guy? I hope so George Pickens 40 time. Apparently he ran a 4.7 in HS. He has to be faster than that right? Pickett hand size. We all know it’s not going to be great, but I’m hoping it’s decent enough for someone to trade up to 10 for him. 9” hopefully? How about you? What are you looking forward to

Looks like Kentucky hired 9ers QB coach Rich Scangarello who was Calabrese's former boss at Wagner and with the Broncos. Hopefully good news for us. EDIT: Clearly late the party, thought this was news today. Apologies for the bump.

So now he’s second hand trolling. Impressive, really.