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  1. Took 15 years and the longest last 12 months. but my boy is coming home
    74 points
  2. Your troll posts lately have been as weak as Becton's offseason workouts. Do better.
    61 points
  3. Defense - I think we are going to see some drastic scheme changes. The DLine will still be the focus, but the additions to the secondary leads me to believe we will see: * More 1 on 1 coverage * Less zone concepts * More blitzing from the secondary, particularly the CBs * More positional switching - You don't spend the amount of free agency $$$ (DJ Reed & Jordan Whitehead) and draft capital (Ahmad Gardner) on players to have them play vanilla Cover 2/ Cover 3 all game. Particularly when their tape showed that they're physical, can press cover and blitz - With the depth we have in the secondary we should see massive "cross training" as we head to camp. The staff flipped Jason Pinnock to safety last year and in my opinion we should do the same with Bryce Hall. A secondary that has "positionless" players can confuse QBs and lead to INTs - John Franklin-Myers should "float" between DE and DT based on the situation Offense - I believe the drafting of Breece Hall will shift the RB position from a committee approach to a RB1, RB2, RB3 structure. Hall's size and college production showed he can be RB1 (20-25 touches) and even though Michael Carter was impressive last year he did get banged up. Which leads me to believe he would be better suited to a RB2 (10-15 touches) role. The fight for the RB3 role will be wicked between Tevin Coleman, Ty Johnson, Zonovan Knight, Austin Walter and Lamical Perine - With actual TEs on the roster this year I would expect to see some of the "SF Kittle" package incorporated into the passing game - I'm glad we didn't double dip at WR in the draft. Because I want to see if Denzel Mims has any shot at reaching his draft potential. I'm not expecting it but if Mims somehow finds his game a WR corps with him being WR5 would be scary - Now its all on Zach Wilson to thrive in this offense. Because Joe Douglas has done for him everything Mike Maccagnan didn't do for Sam Darnold. The OLine has been revamped and there is quality and depth at the skill positions. Wilson now needs to show what he did in the TB game for an entire 17 game schedule
    60 points
  4. Spotted just now in Bergen Co.
    58 points
  5. Wilson & Wilson...Carter I & Carter II...Johnson & Johnson... Bryce Hall and Breece Hall??????
    50 points
  6. It’s been said a ton since the draft. Regardless of how these picks turn out, the vision and execution of a coherent plan has been incredible to watch. Every Jets GM since I’ve started watching in the early 2000s has just been winging it. Not Joe.
    47 points
  7. Haven’t seen you guys this pumped since the Denzel Mims pick.
    47 points
  8. Is how they both go completely against the narrative that we all know so well around here. Saleh’s system doesn’t value CBs, they draft them in the fifth round and turn them into Richard Sherman. This offense creates RBs, not the other way around. The system turns UDFAs into stars. And last year’s draft totally played into that narrative, taking a solid committee RB in the fourth, and a few DBs after that. JD went against type, too, allowing all you rubes who thought he’d take another first round OL only to find yourselves duped. Instead, they arguably grabbed the top players in the draft at both positions, using premium resources to do it. With Sauce, maybe the best player in the draft. What I like most about it is that it demonstrates flexibility from both the front office and the coaches. I have no idea how it came together, but they collectively decided that these two blue chip players were worth altering what they do. After signing a #1 CB in free agency, they supplant him with the fourth pick of the draft. A perfect fit in the scheme, too, just not the way they were expected to fill it. Jets went from one of the worst CB groups in the league to one of the best. While Sauce won’t change the defensive scheme, the Breece pick will change what they’ll do on offense, credit to LaFluer. They went from a pure RBBC to running thru a bell cow back. With Hall and MC1, it’ll be no rest for defenses when the Jets want to run the football, which they will be doing a lot. It’s risky to run your offense thru a specific RB, but the reward potential is big. Rigid coaches, those who put their scheme and philosophy above taking advantage of the talent at their disposal, bother me the most. I’m all about having a philosophy, but the coaches’ primary job is to get the most out of his players and, therefore, team. Here they demonstrated a willingness to change the way do things in order to obtain and utilize premium talents. It’s refreshing and exciting.
    45 points
  9. Last night I met the legend himself and I wanted to share this story with my Jets brethren. Today is my birthday and my wife takes me out to dinner last night at this restaurant in Jupiter Florida called the Beacon, which happens to be owned by Joe Namath. During dinner the manager comes over to our table and asks us how the experience was and I mention to her what big Namath fan I am. She says, " that's great, Joe is sitting outside and he loves to meet Jets fans. Why don't you go over and say Hi." I was hesitant but she insists and the next thing you know she walks us out to his table. Joe is sitting with his partner Charlie and another man and as I introduce my self, he and the whole table gets up and starts chatting with us. Joe and his partners couldn't have been any nicer! We talked for about 15 minutes and Charlie walks us up to the front, introduces us to the GM of the restaurant, and tells her to take my name and give me her number and says the next time I come in dinner is on Him and Joe! Namath is the reason that I became a Jets fan in 1974. Honestly, I have met many celebrities in my life, I am not a star chaser so to speak, but this man is so kind and humble he is just an icon and I wish all the younger player would follow his example. Joe and Charlie really went above and beyond and I wanted to share this great experience with you all. PS I tried to load pics, but my freaking computer wont let me download from my phone!
    45 points
  10. A beloved player and good teammate. Loved having him on the team, especially in some of our darkest times.
    44 points
  11. Of all the GMs who've won 6 games over a 2 year stretch, JD is definitely top 10.
    42 points
  12. Are the Jets still the worst team in AFC East? Yes... Until they play a game & PROVE Otherwise... "Paper" doesn't take precedence over "Play"
    40 points
  13. Since I nailed the first two days, here is day three. You are welcome for me single-handedly turning this franchise around.
    39 points
  14. It's like someone split Cam Newton into three individual people.
    39 points
  15. From his show this AM.
    38 points
  16. Body like Zeus. Voice of Michael Clark Duncan. Loner mentality of people I don’t want to meet. I just pee’d a little.
    37 points
  17. Nothing more needs to be said. Thank you Joe Douglas! Thank you!!
    36 points
  18. I’ll be honest, there are a bunch of Jets players that I’d simply let Jermaine and his gang murder if they see fit. Like, have at it, ballers.
    35 points
  19. I know some prefer the 1 sentence he's great or he sucks. For me personally, his multi-year strategy is coming into focus. Will it be good enough? Too early to tell but it is notable that in retrospect there are many seeds of a consistent step by step plan. At the very least, I applaud him for that. Your takes? 1. He's a strategist that took the job looking at roughly a 4 year rebuild and is the first modern Jets GM I can think of who acted accordingly. As context, he was hired in June 2019 2. Meaning he's made decisions that cost the Jets some early tenure wins for the benefit of long term success. That's part of the reason he's crushed it on trades. He's looked long term while his peers overpaid focusing short term. That's also part of the reason he has been methodical on free agency where spend started slow and more recently has ticked up as the foundationary head coach, scheme & draft elements started to fall into place. A timed sequence of decisions to align the different parts of the organization 3. A closer look at free agency thus paints a different picture than cursory hits or misses. Prior to the 2022 draft class, he did a solid job stabilizing the offensive line while injuries slowed progress at WR & Edge. Everyone else was essentially a 1 year stop gap.. 2022 was always intended to be the biggest piece and could not have happened sooner Misses: 1 year deals = Kalil (2019), Desir (2020) Perriman (2020), J Davis (2021), Rankins (2021, 2 year incentive laden w/ low cost exit after 1 year). Joe D still gets a bad grade here because these low risk additions never materialized into the high upside he was betting on. However, the beauty of the strategy is that it never put the Jets long term rebuild in jeopardy Hits: 3 year deals = McGovern (2020), Fant (2020) Meh: 3 year deal = GVR (2020). By all accounts, a good acquisition when it happened. At 3 years, $10.5M, the Jets got what they paid for & that is a fringe NFL starter TBD mostly 3 year deals = Corey Davis (2021), Carl Lawson (2021), 2022 draft class 4. His 3 biggest strengths are becoming clear: (i) Talent evaluation. Yes, it's looking like he bombed on the 2020 draft class, but that just highlights the risk when key pieces are picked before the Coach & QB are set. Frankly, I'm excited about pretty much everything else from JFM, Berrios, & Quincy W as waiver wire pickups to our 2021-2022 drafts & recent free agent acquisitions, even Mike White as a competent back-up who can win some games or un-drafted Bryce Huff turning into what third rounder Jabari Zuniga was supposed to be. (ii) Data Analytics. Using PFF as a reference point on our recent free agents, C Davis graded at 86.9 (2020); C Lawson 76.3 (2020); Reed 78.6; Whitehead 74.9, Tomlinson 75.9. All + Uzomah/Conklin are graded as average to above average starters. Our draft picks typically have both a high PFF grade and high RAS (athletic profile). Scary when you think the #1 pick in the 2022 draft has high RAS but mediocre actual playing grades (the anti JD selection) (iii) Value. Defined as what you get versus what you paid for. His contract structuring and strong negotiating stand out. Even a guy like Rankins can get cut after a subpar first year with little cap ramification. Also why our dead cap money is NOW the league's lowest. And why the two recent free agent visitors haven't signed .. JD isn't budging on his core offer but might offer performance based incentives that protects weaker performance All very refreshing my Jets friends! Your thoughts?
    34 points
  20. For perspective, the 4th, 10th, and 26th picks last year were Kyle Pitts, DeVonta Smith and Greg Newsome II.
    34 points
  21. Which one of you on this site is him? Lol what a great reaction video one of the best I’ve seen IMG_2469.MP4
    34 points
  22. The delay is Revis is holding out for a new deal for reading out that card.
    34 points
  23. This feels all too familiar but its hilarious....
    33 points
  24. Got in around 5:00 local time. So many football fans walking around the setup looks amazing. It's going to be a fun draft. Here are a few photos.
    33 points
  25. Just like to point out that the Jets got a late third rounder back in that trade, the one that netted Jeremy Ruckert. This makes it sound like they gave up a lot more to get him. In reality, the cost according to the draft pick trade chart was a mid-fifth rounder.
    32 points
  26. these guys go from Bowls to SeniorBowl/Combne to pro day they don't get the usual offseason recovery and then the rookie wall becomes real idk if holding them out of OTA will make a difference but it's not the worst Idea they've come up with especially for a team that has lead the league in cap on IR 2 years running
    31 points
  27. So all of you who likely have wanted to punch me over the years, you might get your chance. (Seriously, please don't punch me, I'm old and soft now). Nov. 6 vs. Buffalo. Hope we're still in it by then Now I just gotta figure our parking and hotels.
    30 points
  28. The only player on the Cardinals who should be taking Growth Hormones is the QB.
    30 points
  29. Round one was a home run. Since I started that thread, I figured I would bless you with more good fortune. Having a blast in Las Vegas. Got into the Jets draft fan theater after standing outside for hours. Was on TV and they brought Jermaine Johnson down to meet the fans which was so cool. Hoping for more good Jets news on Friday.
    30 points
  30. Someone should tell Becton he doesn't have to wait the full 9 months
    30 points
  31. I challenge you to find me a more perfect draft class, and I’ve followed this team for close to half a century. Douglas will be questioned no more without a swift e-kick to the ballsack by yours truly.
    30 points
  32. Let me think on this and I’ll get back to you
    29 points
  33. Interesting tidbit on Johnson and how he taught himself pass rush moves https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/05/02/nfl-draft-howie-roseman-eagles-daily-cover AGGRESSIVE JETS LAND QUITE A CLASS By now, you may have caught the videos the Jets put out—of a celebrating war room after New York took first Sauce Gardner and then Garrett Wilson off the board in the top 10. But what you didn’t see was coach Robert Saleh, after passing off the phone with Wilson (and yelling “G-Dub!!!” to start that conversation), tap GM Joe Douglas on the shoulder. “He’s like, ‘Hey look, if Jermaine [Johnson II] starts falling, let’s go get him,’” Douglas said Saturday afternoon. “And I looked at him and I’m like, ‘Let’s do it.’” That’s how the Jets turned a draft they already really liked into one they loved. This was always going to be a critical class for the future of the franchise. Thanks to deals parting with the team’s first-round picks from 2017 (Jamal Adams) and ’18 (Sam Darnold), Douglas and Saleh went into the weekend with four of the top 40 picks. So as much as the GM, in his third year, and coach, in his second year, are tied to last year’s first-rounder, QB Zach Wilson, how this year’s class pans out will also go a long way in how they’re judged. And the Jets aren’t psychics. They don’t know what Gardner, Wilson and Johnson, or the 36th pick, Iowa State tailback Breece Hall, will collectively become. But they sure didn’t expect it’d play out this way—where the four top-40 picks they came into the weekend with, added to a third-rounder and two fifth-rounders used in trades up, would land them three of the top 10 players on their board and four of the top 20. “We felt like we had a unique opportunity with these four picks at four and 10 and 35 and 38 to be aggressive if it felt right for us,” Douglas said. “The most important thing that we did was rank our top 150 as a group, together, with the scouts and the coaches. We were going over each guy versus each other, so going into the first night, we felt like we had a great group of top-50 players. And from then, we can only control the controllables, and we can’t control who comes up in front of us or who’s willing to trade back if we want to come up.” Sometimes, things just fall into place. It started with Gardner’s availability. The Jets had a good handle on the first two picks, figuring Georgia’s Travon Walker and Michigan’s Aidan Hutchinson were going one and two, in some order. The Texans were the wild card—Douglas and Saleh knew Houston had done its homework on the corners, and all the same the Jets also knew that if the Texans took one, that’d leave New York with a shot to put its top-ranked lineman in the class in front of Zach Wilson. But just before the draft, they’d settled on a plan, and it was one that acknowledged how Saleh’s defense had evolved, in valuing corners differently than teams he coached in Seattle, Jacksonville or San Francisco might have, while still sticking to the scheme’s preference for taller, longer players at the position. “We thought O-linemen could go at one, we thought O-linemen could go at three, so we were prepared for every scenario,” Douglas said. “But the one constant was if he was there, it was going to be Sauce. This was a guy that can be a dynamic guy for us at a premium position, cornerback. It’s been a position that we really haven’t been able to invest a lot of assets in, whether it’s free-agent money or draft picks.” So once the Texans swung on another corner, LSU’s Derek Stingley Jr., even with NC State’s Ickey Ekwonu and Alabama’s Evan Neal there, the call became academic. And then, in Douglas’s words, “It’s nervousness again, because we felt good about our top 10, but you’re hoping for things to fall a certain way.” Which came back to one of Douglas’s goals for the draft, “to do whatever we could to help our young quarterback develop.” Getting him a guy with a shot to be a true No. 1 receiver, of course, qualifies. The Jets saw Garrett Wilson as that guy, and, when he got past the Falcons, who took USC’s Drake London instead, and a tackle was there for Seattle, Douglas could breathe again. “When you just watch the tape, just a great blend of route skill, ball skill, run-after-catch, and big-play ability; there was a multidimensional aspect to his game,” he said. “There was more than one way that he could help you. It just felt like he was a guy who could separate against anybody. He was going to go up and make tough, contested catches. He can run by people if he has to, and then after the catch, he’s elusive.” Just as important was that Wilson, like last year’s second-round pick, Elijah Moore, could separate enough to create easy completions for the quarterback, while also bringing a rare ability to, like Douglas said, make combat catches in 50-50 situations, which should make Zach Wilson’s job easier in giving him layups, while also allowing for him to take more chances. So Wilson went 10th, and then came the tap on the shoulder. And the important thing to start with from there is that Johnson, in the Jets’ predraft meetings, was absolutely a consideration for the 10th pick. Obviously, things played out in a way that made Wilson the one. But Johnson wasn’t far off on the board. “If my board fell a certain way,” Douglas said, “he 100% would’ve been an option for us at 10.” As it was, Douglas and Saleh started getting more serious about a move after the Eagles made their move, from 15 to 13, to get Davis. After the Ravens took Notre Dame S Kyle Hamilton at 14, the calls started. First to the Texans at 15, then to the Commanders at 16 and the Chargers at 17, with one line drawn—Douglas didn’t want to give up both of his second-rounders to move. Then the Brown trade happened, and the Titans got on the clock at 18. With a receiver need just created, and Arkansas’s Treylon Burks there, Robinson wasn’t going to deal 18. But the conversation was good with Douglas, enough so the two agreed to circle back at if things fell in a way where the Jets still wanted to move up. They did, of course. Johnson was there. And the interesting thing was he was there in large part because some of his predraft meetings hadn’t gone well, while a big piece of the Jets’ interest in him was because of his predraft meeting with them, during which he told Douglas that, before he transferred from Georgia to Florida State, he taught himself an array of pass-rush moves via … YouTube. “I felt like him and Jameson Williams were two birds of the same feather in that they bet on themselves to go somewhere else and succeed, and they both hit,” Douglas said. “And I like the fact that he went to a different scheme, different defense, left the place that he would’ve been comfortable as a rotational player, but he took a chance, bet on himself, changed defenses and was ultraproductive as an edge player for them. “The other thing was, it felt like there was five different ways that this guy could get to the quarterback. … We were talking about Georgia. And I just said, ‘Hey Jermaine, I heard you guys don’t practice one-on-one pass rush all that much.’ And he said, ‘No, we don’t do it as much as other places.’ I said, ‘I see that. I watched the tape this year. You got so many different ways you can get to the quarterback. How did you develop that if you never really practice it before?’ He said, ‘Honestly, I would YouTube different pass-rush moves, watch and just practice it by myself. I just taught myself how to do it.’” So the Jets traded third- and fifth-round picks to get him at 26, securing a third player off that top 10 that Douglas, Saleh and their staffs had compiled. On Douglas’s way home Thursday, he noticed his 14-year-old son had sent him a text, right around when the 13th or 14th pick was made: “Jermaine Johnson’s falling.” So Friday morning, Douglas’s son said to him, “You got Jermaine!” Douglas responded, “Yeah.” “Yeah, you saw my text,” he said. “Obviously, you saw my text. That’s why you did it.” Douglas laughed, knowing how clear it was how fortunate he’d been the night before, in how things fell into place as they did. And hours later, he’d cap that with a short trade up, from 38 to 36, sending a fifth-rounder to the crosstown Giants to land Hall, another piece to help Wilson be his best. Now, what’s left is to put all that good fortune to work. “The last two drafts, some things bounced our way, and some guys fell to us that we didn’t really think had an opportunity to fall to us,” he said. “But through it all, I feel like the constant has been every person on staff, and their ability to connect with each other, communicate, get on the same page, hash out different opinions in a real productive, respectful environment and ultimately come to the best decisions for the team.” Whether they’re the right decisions will play out over time.
    29 points
  34. Don't understand a scenario where we're picking top 3 next year and not taking a QB.
    28 points
  35. Rather than having to value every single draft pick, because they needed to just get bodies, they were able to use this draft to target the exact players they want as Jets. When you start with zero, as Douglas did on this job, you have little wiggle room to but to fill holes with anything. That changed this year. It actually is a process.
    28 points
  36. One of my favorite draft classes ever for the Jets, I guess the trick was for me to stop paying so much attention.
    28 points
  37. All this history considered, for me this is the highlight since the Super Bowl. To get potentially the best corner, receiver and edge rusher in the first round, and the way JD and the staff did it, is so magnificently impressive. We finally have pros in charge. I've been doing the Fanspeak draft for months and nothing came close to making this possible. Assuming Edge at #4 and WR at #10, it's literally like we got Sauce thrown into to the deal as extra. Unbelievable! I am going to just enjoy this as long as I can. And guess whose fault it is that I am and will always be a Jets fan?
    28 points
  38. I'm tagging Rich on Twitter to make sure he gets this message.
    27 points
  39. Joe Douglas turned Jamal Adams into AVT and Garrett Wilson
    26 points
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