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  1. I know I have the other pinned thread and I will end up merging this. Just wanted to give everyone an update. Lauren has been undergoing chemo and hormone therapy for the recurrence of her breast cancer that had spread to a few places. They started new chemo and it is a bomb, tough stuff but hopefully effective. She gets whole-body scans again today, so we will see if things are still progressing in the right direction (the last scans were good). Unfortunately, she had chemo on 12/30 and on 12/31 she wasn't feeling good. Short-staffed at Memorial Sloan Kettering, they told her to go to the hospital that they are affiliated with. She was admitted and the short version is she has some swelling of her brain, some cancer cells escaped, and were trying to set up shop in a new location. Two weeks of daily whole head radiation will begin this week. They said this is treatable and the oncologist felt she will have a good outcome. It is serious and it is though, they said the radiation will know her out for the month of January. We were about to go shopping for a New Year stay at home with the kid's party. The weekend ended up being Lauren in the hospital with no visitors. Tough, really tough. Thanks, everyone for all the support and prayers. You have been amazing. We appreciate it. Off to MSK now to meet about the new treatment plan and for Lauren to get more scans.
    118 points
  2. Good to be back, let's get started with initial impressions. We'll see if these hold true with the two other practices I'll be attending: General Notes - Props to the staff for the smooth movement of 1000+ fans to the practice facility - Practice ran 2 hours and 40 minutes - Shockingly players were in jerseys & shorts (not even shells). Usually by day four pads are worn - With no pads there were no 1 on 1 periods to really break down players movement skills - For the most part it was a 50/50 practice with each side of the ball "flashing" during certain periods New Staff Notes - Practice has three portions now a 24 minute individual warmup period where players work with their position coaches. A 15 minute offense/defense installation period and then the formal practice begins. During the calisthenics period the performance staff added ball skills, where the players had to catch the ball while exercising - As mentioned before only jerseys & shorts on a day that full pads usually come on - During the 15 minute installation period the defense really emphasized the coordination of LB's & DB's in their coverage responsibilities. At various points Jeff Ulbrich (DC) would pull a LB, CB and S and send a route combination at them to see if they knew what they were doing - The DLine staff has brought in a blocking sled that is MUCH lower to the ground than normal. Forcing the DLinemen to get low in their stances and to get underneath OLinemen. Because as the saying goes in line play "the low man wins" - I don't know if this is what Mike Lafleur (OC) normally does but in the initial 11 on 11 periods he really emphasizes the running game. Then later on he opened up the pass game Player Notes - The players auditioning for PR are Elijah Moore, Braxton Berrios, Michael Carter and Keelan Cole - Carl Lawson is going to be a problem. Relentless pursuit in rushing the passer, excellent get off and a wide variety of moves and hand actions. It was a pleasure watching him go against Mekhi Becton, they should really push each other to be better - The DLine as a whole has much more freedom in getting up the field. To the point where Sheldon Rankins pulled a "Dwight Freeney spin move" from his DT position to rush the passer. Quinnen Williams will be scary in this scheme when he comes back. But that comes with a price because with the emphasis on attacking upfield they got "gashed" a couple of times on cut backs - Nice to finally see a creative run scheme straight out of the "Shanahan book". Tons of motions to influence the defense and out of the same formation multiple plays can be run for multiple players. Michael Carter and Tevin Coleman stood out, showing the ability to read the play and determining when/if it was time to cut back - The OLine was effective in run blocking but they'll need to stiffen up in pass blocking. At assorted times the DLine really pushed the pocket causing QB's to throw on the run. Nice holes opened on the left side by Mekhi Becton and Alijah Vera-Tucker - Solid coverage for the most part by the back seven as they seemed to work on matchup zones. Covering receivers to a certain point and then passing them off to another player. They were solid in their assignments to the point were the QB's had to hold the ball for what would be a "sack". An impressive, acrobatic INT by Jason Pinnock (from his back) off of Mike White as he returned it for a TD (30+ yards) QB Notes - They seemed to be "over repping" Zach Wilson to get him up to speed from the two days he missed. And the talents you see on his tape and from his BYU Pro Day were on display. The play of the day was his 80 yard TD (50 yards in the air) to Elijah Moore. Wilson got pressure from his right side, shifted to the left side of the pocket and "flicked" the ball to Moore in stride 50 yards down the right side of the field. In addition you saw Wilson's ability to create when things broke down and throw with accuracy and velocity even when his feet aren't on the ground. It would be nice to finally not be teased by a young QB, we'll see - Surprising performance by James Morgan, he's big and not overly mobile so you wouldn't think he would fit in this offense. But he did a good job moving within the pocket and showed a strong and accurate arm. His two best throws were a 20+ yard seam strike to Tyler Kroft and a 40+ yard TD to DJ Montgomery Standouts - Zach Wilson - Carl Lawson - Elijah Moore - Michael Carter - Jason Pinnock Concerns - DLine run defense on cut backs - OLine need to tighten up the pocket for the QB's
    96 points
  3. So we know the team is bad. We know they were bad last year and the year before that. Everyone has a right to complain and voice their opinions. But at the same time, people have a right to be a fan of this team. They have a right to say what they feel good about. Some posters are making the site painful right now, turning everything into a "well nothing matters because Zach sucks" site. We don't censor football opinions but let this serve as notice to the few people that are ruining thread after thread after thread. We are going to clean things up and soon so that people can start talking about things again. If your commentary is taking threads off-topic or just is the same thought over and over again, we don't need to be beaten over the head with it. Tough season, no doubt. I will be there on Sunday, the day after Christmas. Right now people on the site would say I am an idiot for going. We all have our opinions but the hate that Jets fans are receiving, for rooting for the team is over the top. Thanks everyone, and go Jets.
    87 points
  4. Stop being such a bunch of hypocritical pussies. All I kept hearing was that we need our own coach and QB. We need to start from scratch. That we need to develop younger players and stop wasting time playing vets. Just this past season the board was overrun with posts complaining that Bell and Gore were on the field. 2015 is lambasted as a disaster because we didn't make the playoffs and developed nothing. The board almost universally complains about late season wins because they cost us draft capital. People would rather go 0-16 than 8-8. Now they are doing what you asked and you whine like my son avoiding "rest your eyes time" at pre-school? Suck it up. Things have looked bad. That is no guarantee of success, but it is not a guarantee of failure either. Andy Reid started off -0-4 in Philly. He was an offensive genius brought over from the Packers and his teams scored 29 points over the first 3 games including being shut out. Sound familiar? Kyle Shanahan, with these very guys on staff, started off 0-9 in SF. sh*t may look up and it may not, but Douglas was a well respected hire. He was not some dunce that couldn't handle a press conference brought over because he was the only guy willing to take on Rex. He was not some coffee addled protege of a guy who goes to the wig store and asks for the Moe Howard. He is a guy everybody said would right the ship and play the long game. He is playing the long game. Live with it. Barring some real insanity he gets this year and next. He should.
    86 points
  5. Hey - just wanted to let everyone know that my wife, Lauren, her cancer is back. I had posted about it before, years ago. She had breast cancer about 8 years ago and it came back a few years later. She recently hit the 5 year free and clear mark which is a big milestone. Then unfortunately a routine doctors appointment ended up with an emergency hospital stay and pretty invasive surgery. She was in the hospital for a week in May, her breast cancer has returned and unfortunately spread a bit. The Oncologist got the report right away and the team at Memorial Sloan Kettering took over immediately. This morning she had her 5th chemo treatment. That will happen once every week for 18 weeks. The cancer has changed a bit and in a good news \ bad news kind of way they have hormone therapies they are treating her with as well. The oncologist said she feels the outcome will be good here. It is a long road, none of this is fun. But Lauren has amazing family and friends around her. Lauren used to post her back in the day but I realize most of you don't know her. She is the most positive person I have ever met. She simply never complains, just tackles each step and does it all with a smile on her face. So I wanted to let everyone know because we don't do religious talk here but I am a believer. So prayers are definitely appreciated. Thanks!
    85 points
  6. So sad that this needs to be a thing but apparently it is. If you want to be racist, feel the need to call out anyone's religion or anything like that you will be banned. Immediately. Plenty of places where you can go on the internet and spread your ignorance. But I deleted multiple posts today because people think it is acceptable to blast the head coach and call him out in ways that have nothing to do with football. Other than the obvious, you should be embarrassed that this hate speech exists in your head, I will add this is a no-questions-asked ban.
    84 points
  7. Took 15 years and the longest last 12 months. but my boy is coming home
    74 points
  8. I do not see this being mentioned much, but Zach goes into year 2 with the same system and same coaches. This is huge. HUGE NFL teams keep making the same mistake: They draft a QB, team struggles, then they fire the head coach and then the high draft pick has to go into Season 2 getting used to new coaches, new schemes, new players, and especially new terminology and new QB coaches. So whatever strides they made are reset, and instead of having a productive offseason and just building on what they know, they have to relearn everything. And frankly it ruins QB prospects. It happened with Sam. It happened with Daniel Jones and now he is in same situation but trying to save his career. Next year both Fields and Lawrence will be in this situation. David Mills who to me might have been the most impressive rookie QB is in this situation and as a lower round pick may not be given a 2nd year chance. But Zach has none of these burdens. He can work with Beck all offseason who was part of the Jets staff, he does not need to learn new terminology or playbooks, he has the same coaches.... He can just focus on building on what he learned and perfecting it. People used to say that the biggest jump year to year for a football player was Year 1 to 2. But so many QBs now are being robbed of that. It is a good reason to be really excited for the development of Zach. He has the perfect situation to build on all the improvement he showed at the end of the season.
    72 points
  9. Chalk this up as a rumor thread, a discussion thread, or just general discussion. As far as my initial points, they're a combination of my own observations from studying this administration over the past year-plus, conversations with people in the league, my own scouting/pulse on a situation, and media sources. I'll do my best to point out which is which. I also hope others on here will contribute because I've come to learn there are a lot of guys on here that contribute some quality stuff - whether it be information or takes The priority of this offseason is to continue building around the QB position. This has been a popular topic addressed by the beat-writers, but it's been made very clear within the organization that they need to build around the QB position if they're to be successful. The way the Jets see it, there's no downside if your properly surrounding the QB position with talent. The Jets front office has admired Buffalo from afar (and to some extent Baltimore - where Douglas cut his teeth for over a decade) and when they tackled their 2021 coaching search, they wanted to somewhat replicate their model of having a stern yet player-friendly "CEO" style coach with an excellent, innovative offensive coaching staff and scheme and a uniform philosophy of building the team through the lines of scrimmage. Not only did they feel that model was most sustainable in today's game, but they felt that model was best for getting the most out of a talented young QB. Both Douglas and Saleh share similar experiences being on teams that have won in-spite of the QB play, so in their mind it isn't just about propping up Wilson, it's propping up the entire room. The particular focus early in the draft will be on the lines of scrimmage. This one seems obvious, but emphasizing it because there's been a lot of mocks out there ignoring the OL/DL in round 1. Even before Saleh, this was, is, and will continue to be Douglas's MO. He has a lot of conviction as it relates to the LOS, and if it were up to him (it is) he would take an OL in round 1 every year. Saleh is in lockstep with him. This year, you can be sure they're going to address both lines of scrimmage, and could do so with both their first-round picks. OFFENSIVE LINE: the team wants to improve the offensive line and continue funneling talent into that group, but make no mistake, Joe Douglas and his staff do not want to see Becton on the bench next year. In recent years, Joe Douglas was salivating at the opportunity to sign one of Brandon Scherff or Joe Thuney, but was never given a realistic chance. He also had interest in Graham Glasgow back in 2020. Clearly, Douglas hasn't been afraid to spend money or draft capital on offensive linemen so on the surface it would seem like the Jets would go in heavy for Scherff, but based on what I've gathered, I don't get the sense this one will come to fruition for a few reasons: (1) the Jets will look into extending both Fant and McGovern as they've played their way into new contracts; and (2) signing a RG of Scherff's caliber comes with caveats - specifically as it relates to flexibility and how Becton fits in the overall construction of the OL. The frustration with Becton is out in the open and moving him to RT is likely going to be the case, but the Jets don't really see it as a demotion as much as Becton's camp does. RT is just as important as LT in this scheme and is especially important in the run game, and if anything, playing him at RT would allow them to great more creative with the scheme and playcalling. Also, it would be easier for them to adjust their scheme to account for a lesser talent at RT if Becton were to miss time than it would be to replace a LT. Having been said, if the Jets find themselves in a position where they add a high-profile FA guard and have a tackle staring them in the face at #4 or #10, Douglas is going to find himself in a very tough spot because he is not prepared to give up on Becton. For this reason, I think the more likely scenario to play out is re-signing Laurent Duvernay-Tardif (or a similar caliber player), drafting an OL in round 1. I believe Evan Neal goes #1, so it would likely be Ikem Ekwonu at #4 or Trevor Penning later, then bring everyone in to compete for the top 5 spots. DEFENSIVE LINE: mark this under obvious, but this is going to be another group that the Jets focus on in 2022. Ideally they would like a steady rotation of 8 DL: 4-to-5 DEs and 4-to-5 DTs. They have a solid interior, but I would expect some change in 2022. They ran a ton of wide-9 fronts in 2021, basically lining up the DTs on the outside of the OGs and the DEs wide outside of the OTs. Quinnen Williams missed some time, but he's the keystone of the group. He primarily lined up over the LG, playing most of his snaps as a pure 3-tech on the right side of the line. Nathan Shepherd, a free agent, was essentially his direct backup. My guess is he signs elsewhere. They want to bring back Folorunso Fatukasi, who played served as the teams primarily "run stuffing" DL/NT in the 1/2i-tech. Personally, I'm not confident this gets done. Both the FA and draft interior DL classes aren't deep, which could result in Foley's market gets pumped up. The Jets value him and will submit an offer, but he may need to be willing to take a "hometown discount" for it to get done. By nature of Saleh's philosophy the team will always look to have a heavy DL rotation, coupled with a big contract on the horizon for Quinnen, I don't see them making a big investment on Foley. Sheldon Rankins essentially replaced Foley on passing downs, playing on the left side of the DL or a passing down NT. I don't get the sense he will get cut, nor do I see his role really changing much, so if he does return my guess is he remains as the "6th man" of the interior DL and could see his usage scaled back to make way for JFM at the LDT spot more often. If that were the case, they may need to sign another veteran to take over Foley's early-down work or consider Jonathan Marshall in that spot. There's also the possibility that the Jets could take one of the top interior DL early in the draft... Fans are going to hate this, but I want to provide the disclaimer: do not rule out a high pick on Jordan Davis or Travis Jones. If they went that route, Davis/Jones would be the long-term answer at "left" DT/NT and could likely play all 3 downs, albeit their usage would be scaled back. John Franklin-Myers will likely stay at LE in base formats, my guess is he will see more snaps in the interior this upcoming season. He was most effective lining up at the 3/4/5-tech spots with rather than a LEO, which lines up at the 7/9-tech. If the Jets were to move on from Rankins, my guess is JFM would see his LEO usage scaled back substantially. Kyle Phillips essentially operated as JFM's backup at the LEO spot only. I would think he'll be back as a RFA but haven't heard anything and it may be tied to how they feel about Jabari Zuniga and Hamilcar Rashed as backups. Either way, I am sure they will look for upgrades. Carl Lawson is going to slide right into the RE spot vacated by Shaq Lawson. The Jets "like" Bryce Huff, Ronnie Blair, and Tim Ward, all of whom primarily backed up Shaq Lawson at the RE spot, but they're not liked enough to prevent the team from upgrading. Again, I think back to how the construction of the Buffalo Bills have been a team Douglas admires from afar and can't help but wonder if he takes a similar approach that they have by investing several Day 1-2 picks in DEs starting with this draft. I wouldn't rule out a veteran acquisition - specifically Derek Barnett - who is close with members of the Jets coaching staff and front office dating back to their days together in PHI. Barnett did not adjust well to Gannon's defense, which limited the "wide 9" usage that he grew accustomed to during his time in PHI. The Jets were interested in Barnett before landing Carl Lawson, so you wonder if they would consider bringing him in if the price was right... if so, he would likely occupy that Bryce Huff/Ronnie Blair role as a backup. More likely, the Jets will look to add via the draft. Everything I've read and heard suggests the NFL is lower on Kayvon Thibodeaux than the media and fans; it's to the point where others who I trust that say he may not crack the Jets top 4 DE prospects. I think it's more likely the team takes a DE with their #10 pick (or later). 3 names to keep an eye on in round 1 are Jermaine Johnson, Travon Walker, and George Karlaftis. It wouldn't at all shock me if they double-dipped and selected someone like Arnold Ebiketie, Kingsley Enagbare, or Boye Mafe in the second frame. The team will invest heavily in the TE position. Everyone associated with the Jets knows that their TEs weren't good enough last year. They tried to sign Jonnu Smith in free agency, but saw him join the rival Patriots. They were high on Tommy Tremble in the 2021 draft, but after trading out of the 3rd round there really wasn't a chance to get him. One thing I'm sure of: this position will be the priority in free agency, and I have heard they are going to prioritize is David Njoku. The Browns want him back, but the question is how badly? Will they franchise tag him or make him among the higher paid players at the position when they have really good players in Austin Hooper and Harrison Bryant on the roster? Time will tell, but if he makes it to the market, I would handicap the Jets as the favorite. If he's not available, it's hard to say who they would pivot to at the moment... best guesses are OJ Howard, Tyler Conklin, or Hayden Hurst. I don't get the sense the draft is filled with guys who the Jets would take in round 2 unless they moved down. More likely, that's a position they would target in rounds 3-5. There are a ton of TEs in this years class who don't get enough love, so don't be surprised if it were someone not-named Ruckert or McBride when all is said and done. How the Jets address the WR position is a hotly debated topic at 1 Jets Drive. It's been discussed with virtually everyone in the organization from ownership down to Zach Wilson himself. The certainly know that continuing to add to the WR room is a priority, but how they go about it is an entirely different story. They want Braxton Berrios back, and no, he’s not asking for $9 million a year. I think that deal gets done. They believe wholeheartedly that Elijah Moore will be an upper-echelon receiver. They think Corey Davis will show better in 2022. Still, the preference is to add a veteran, but they don't want to sign a guy just to sign a guy. Last year they were prepared to go hard after Chris Godwin had he made it to the open market; all I’ve heard with him is that he’s likely to return to TB (besides, not sure how the Jets would feel about him coming off the ACL). They have enough receivers in the room for depth purposes and will look to add someone in the draft, so carrying 6+ vets again is unlikely. Despite their feeling that Moore is a "#1" guy, they want to explore a trade for a "WR1-caliber" player, with Calvin Ridley among the most sought after names. Jeremy Fowler recently suggested Chase Claypool and rumors have connected Amari Cooper, but Ridley is the only one I’ve actually heard that will be a target. If they can't land one, they may hold off and look to acquire one in the draft, more likely on Day 2 than 1. I’ve read all the rumors connecting the Jets to the top WRs in the draft; I’ve heard some Drake London and Garrett Wilson chatter. Still, I’m not sure they would view either as an option to select at #10. More likely, I wouldn’t be surprised if they targeted someone in rounds 2-3 instead. Christian Watson has a lot of fans…
    68 points
  10. This company has reached out to us a few times asking to buy the site. This time he says give me a number. I say the site isn't for sale but feel free to give me a number. Instead, he responds with send me your website data and financials details. Well two problems with that 1) we don't have financials and 2) the site isn't for sale. Anyhow this was my response back. *****, This was a cold pitch that you made. I am not going to just put that info out there. The site isn’t for sale, just had our 17 year birthday. This is my Yellowstone. Not going to give up an inch of land. Should I pass though, feel free to reach out to my kids. Phil
    66 points
  11. One day we won’t have players like Braxton Berrios.
    65 points
  12. Your troll posts lately have been as weak as Becton's offseason workouts. Do better.
    61 points
  13. Defense - I think we are going to see some drastic scheme changes. The DLine will still be the focus, but the additions to the secondary leads me to believe we will see: * More 1 on 1 coverage * Less zone concepts * More blitzing from the secondary, particularly the CBs * More positional switching - You don't spend the amount of free agency $$$ (DJ Reed & Jordan Whitehead) and draft capital (Ahmad Gardner) on players to have them play vanilla Cover 2/ Cover 3 all game. Particularly when their tape showed that they're physical, can press cover and blitz - With the depth we have in the secondary we should see massive "cross training" as we head to camp. The staff flipped Jason Pinnock to safety last year and in my opinion we should do the same with Bryce Hall. A secondary that has "positionless" players can confuse QBs and lead to INTs - John Franklin-Myers should "float" between DE and DT based on the situation Offense - I believe the drafting of Breece Hall will shift the RB position from a committee approach to a RB1, RB2, RB3 structure. Hall's size and college production showed he can be RB1 (20-25 touches) and even though Michael Carter was impressive last year he did get banged up. Which leads me to believe he would be better suited to a RB2 (10-15 touches) role. The fight for the RB3 role will be wicked between Tevin Coleman, Ty Johnson, Zonovan Knight, Austin Walter and Lamical Perine - With actual TEs on the roster this year I would expect to see some of the "SF Kittle" package incorporated into the passing game - I'm glad we didn't double dip at WR in the draft. Because I want to see if Denzel Mims has any shot at reaching his draft potential. I'm not expecting it but if Mims somehow finds his game a WR corps with him being WR5 would be scary - Now its all on Zach Wilson to thrive in this offense. Because Joe Douglas has done for him everything Mike Maccagnan didn't do for Sam Darnold. The OLine has been revamped and there is quality and depth at the skill positions. Wilson now needs to show what he did in the TB game for an entire 17 game schedule
    60 points
  14. Absolutely stunning!!! I still can't believe that the Jets beat CIN 34-31 with a "backup QB" after last week's NE horror show. I had to review the tape multiple times before posting because there were so many things to analyze. Let's take a look at the game/players and realize a QB controversy is looming: Coaching - Changes made by the offensive staff this week, Mike LaFleur (OC) was up in the booth while Rob Calabrese and Matt Cavanaugh were down on the sideline. - Significant play call changes as more "jet sweeps" and RPO's were included in the game plan. And LaFleur opened up the trick plays as he whipped out multiple WR "flea flicker" passes and the "Philly special" for the final two point play of the game. Special Teams - Braxton Berrios had a 29.5 average on his kick off returns. But his only punt return was on the Jets final drive of the game and it was huge. Instead of fair catching it at the 10, Berrios returned it for 16 yards and got the offense into decent field position. If the offense started at the 10 yard line you wonder how conservative Saleh/ LaFleur would've been. - Matt Ammendola was decent as he was 2/3 in FG and 2/2 in XP. But with his leg strength he needs to have a better attempt on the 54 yarder he missed. - What a pleasure to only see the Jet punter ONCE all game as Tom Morstead generated a 45 yard average. Defense - A bend but don't break effort from the defense. Particularly with them having to deal with three first half turnovers by the offense, impressive that they only allowed 10 points. - Fantastic early stand by them after the first INT as they stopped CIN four times and prevented them from scoring. - Nice return by CJ Mosley as he had 10 Tackles and a TFL. With Mosley and Jarrad Davis making his debut, the defense was able to play an extremely "light box" (6 men) and limit CIN to 16 rushes for 41 yards. - WOW!!! An actual Jabari Zuniga sighting and in one game he produced more than Vernon Gholston did in his career (Sack and a QB Hit). Who saw that coming??? - Excellent game by the DT's as Sheldon Rankins had 4 Tackles, Sack, 2 TFL's and a QB Hit. While Quinnen Williams had 2 Tackles, Sack, TFL, QB Hit and a Pass Defensed. - Shaq Lawson didn't have the "stats" but had the biggest play of the game with his tip and INT that set the offense up in prime position. - With the defense in "nickel" most of the game Michael Carter had a ton of reps and continued to impress (4 Tackles, Pass Defensed). And when he was sent on blitzes he "sped up" Joe Burrow and forced him into incompletions. - Brandin Echols continues to grow at CB, he was a big part of the coverage that limited JaMarr Chase to 3 catches and 32 yards. Offense - Excellent game by the OLine particularly in pass protection, Mike White was kept spotless in the pocket. And Michael Carter was effective running the ball. - Speaking of Michael Carter he was dynamic in all phases as he racked up 172 total yards and a TD (15 rushes / 77 yards / TD and 9 recs / 95 yards). Carter's "contact balance" is outrageous, as he constantly shakes off tacklers keeps his feet and picks up additional yardage. - Ty Johnson contributed heavily in the passing game as he had 5 recs / 71 yards and a TD. - Jamison Crowder and Elijah Moore provided reliable underneath options for Mike White all day. Crowder recovered from his fumble and had 8 recs / 84 yards. While Elijah Moore had 6 recs / 67 yards. QB - Now let's deal with the multiple "elephants in the room", Mike White changed the offense entirely: * Even though he never started before, his experience in the league (drafted in 2018) allowed him to run the LaFleur/SF offense efficiently. As was said in the post game press conferences LaFleur called multiple deep shots early in the game. But White showed an "inner clock" and came off of those progressions when he knew they weren't there and went to intermediate receivers or check downs. This allowed for the offense to keep "moving the chains" and never getting into 3rd and longs. * Another benefit of White not staying on the deep shots in his progression was he got rid of the ball quickly and made the OLine not sustain blocks for too long. The trait White displayed yesterday is one of Zach Wilson's biggest issues. Wilson (so far) looks for the "sexy shot" and doesn't come off of it, leading him to scramble and taking risks down field. Against TEN it worked 4-5 times and they were able to win, but I remember saying it would be hard to sustain an offense based on "off script" deep shots. - White was excellent (37/45, 405 yards, 3 TD and 2 INT) and as mentioned above was a "chain mover" as he specialized in intermediate and check down routes. Its crazy/sad to think he was the first Jet QB in 21 years (Vinny Testaverde) to throw for over 400 yards. - Trait wise White showed the good "inner clock" I mentioned above, and decent arm strength on medium throws. His one deep shot was pretty erratic (40+ yards to Elijah Moore) and he "lumbers" around a little bit on the few occasions where he had to move in the pocket. - Hopefully Wilson was taking notes on the way White ran the offense yesterday. Because he needs to mix White's "inner clock" and willingness to take check downs into his game. - As far as the rest of the season, if White continues to impress I would keep Wilson on the bench and make him earn the starting spot. It would be totally unfair to the rest of the roster to just hand the spot back to Wilson, they deserve to stay enthusiastic and try to win as many games as possible.
    59 points
  15. Ultimately it's not any one thing. It's all of them at once, and one of them influencing another is the core of why the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. For example, other teams have had a single awful offensive lineman before. They've even had two who were so lowly rated/ranked. The problem is everything else isn't remotely in place, so they can't possibly handle & cover for it. I glossed over it in another thread: QB = Wilson's a rookie who typically worked out of shotgun, and - despite the attributes that made him a good prospect, like a very fast release and accuracy while doing so - has only worked in one offense and was able to do a lot of college'y things with impunity before he got here, like running backwards to avoid pressure, and many lengthy stare-downs which are really two problems: telegraphing the play to the defense and holding the ball too long. They're all fixable, rookie QBs make mistakes, and he needs to work through them; but with so many other things going on here he looks even worse and his uphill climb even steeper: LT = Becton was initially out of shape or whatever since we never got straight answers, then returned and got schooled by his own edge rusher in practice or opposing edge rusher in scrimmages. Then he got injured halfway through week 1. Fant then took over, but he was playing the other side the whole summer (except not really; more on that below). I'm not nearly buying his notion as though it's like a righty throwing lefty, but will acknowledge there's an adjustment period. LG = AVT missed all 3 preseason games. Looked totally lost week 1, but has since settled. C = McGovern is just a horrible center. While certainly not a great center with Denver before this, he didn't look nearly this bad in 2019 even when sandwiched between a weak rookie LG Risner and a has-been RG Leary (whose career ended after 2019). RG = GVR. Missed a lot of snaps this summer in a 4-headed guard competition between him, Clark, Lewis, and Feeney (and who knows how may, if any, snaps were also given to Edoga or anyone else initially). RT = Moses lost a camp competition to Fant. What that means is neither was getting all the snaps needed while installing a new system, and each probably received even less than GVR got at RG next to them. Then Fant had to switch sides when Becton went down in week 1. A cluster****. WR group is a mess. New addition Davis was, if anything, sure-handed in Tennessee. Now he has no hands at all. Mims has been discussed plenty, but it's enough to say he's not on the field. Moore missed weeks of the summer himself, then wasn't playing to his speed (thinking about scheme too much?), had hands issues of his own suddenly develop, and then got concussed. Crowder (badly undervalued by the fanbase all spring/summer) is a weird one of late; he was never an ironman but it's definitely a head-scratcher so far & couldn't possibly be so hurt he can't see the field at all since getting over covid (even while there was an extra active spot with Mims being deactivated yet again himself). Cole was supposed to be so good we didn't need Crowder anymore, since he was also more physical, and he's mostly been a ghost, only seeing action after Moore went down. Berrios is the only one playing well above expectations. Snicker all you want about him; he probably doesn't have the talent of any of the above 5, but has created enough separation in his role to get 21 targets in 3 games and reliably catch 14 of them. If only the other 5 all had his heart & dedication. RB group - some running talent here, but obvious issues with TJ picking up blitzes means he really shouldn't be on the field on passing downs until that's settled, making the play call too obvious to just have him out there on running downs. Carter looked good week 2, but by then was NE just protecting against the pass? Really, until the passing game starts doing some damage there isn't going to be much running room or consistency. Coleman is about what I'd expect given the circumstances, and ok as part of a committee. With a more legit passing threat and some better blocking he'd look a good amount better himself; but big whoop, what RB wouldn't? TE group... (*crickets chirping*) That's just the personnel. Ability-wise, there are some weak points, but the problem is all these weak points showing at once, and if there's anything compounding them. And there is: OC = LaFleur's first year of a first-time OC, installing a new offense for the first time ever, calling plays for the first time ever. He came out of a successful program, but what's starting to show is something more. It's really the only offense he's coached much and, at age 34, doesn't seem to have a seasoned-enough background to be able to change things up when he doesn't have the personnel to run what he wants, on top of all these players running it for the first time, which itself is on top of how many didn't even get a full summer of working on it with the first team because of injuries and position competitions. HC = Saleh's first year of a first-time HC, mostly powerless to do anything to change it, since that's not his forte either. Saleh's only possible remedy to change to something simpler is to demote Mike LaFleur and promote Cavanaugh. Cavanaugh isn't the greatest of the great, but he's an experienced offensive coach with many years as a QBC and OC in several different systems. He's got enough experience in other schemes to change to something different, and LaFleur may not. Except even that is an extreme long shot because there's obviously a conflict in Saleh's personal relationship ("best friends") with Matt LaFleur. If he demotes his best friend's brother, after just a few games, personally awkward wouldn't even be strong enough language. Assistant coaches on offense: Knapp (RIP) had his life cut short suddenly QBC Calabrese is 31 and is in his first year as a QBC. He was a QBC/OC at Wagner from 2017-18, lol. Coaching a rookie QB, in a system he's never coached or played in himself. OLC Benton is experienced in this scheme (or similar enough). Would seem to be a good and sensible hire. The problems with the OL may not be of his making. Assistant OLC Moreland is in his first year coaching in the NFL after being at mostly forgettable college programs. Cavanaugh came on late after Knapp's untimely passing. Good hire under the circumstances, but really he got here and then the season started like 5 minutes later. Miles Austin was a terrific receiver for a few years but at 37 is in his first year as a WRC and the early returns are pretty bad; Taylor Embree is 32, and in his first year as a RBC Middleton is an experienced TE coach, but...yeah he's just a TE coach, on a team without any discernible talent to exploit/feature at TE Anyway there's so much new all at once, it's almost folly to point to just one of them. Problems with personnel quality, problems with missed time due to health and competition at too many positions at once, all on top of a lot of newness in the scheme for all involved except for LaFleur and Benton. It was all poorly conceived, and only arrogance in doing so - plus blind optimism from the HC on down, and the fanbase - would expect non-failure given all of it at the same time. I suppose it should only get better as the newness gets less new, but there's a legit concern that Wilson's health and other things will hold up by then. I don't have a strong opinion on it, other than the strong opinion that this sucks. OK it's not an opinion; objectively this offense sucks.
    59 points
  16. Spotted just now in Bergen Co.
    58 points
  17. I’m Ukrainian. My grandmother came home from school as a teenager and her entire family was gone. Taken to the Siberian gulags. Never heard from again. She hid for months. Farm to farm, barn to barn. She was eventually caught and was put on a train she said was very similar to the ones in Schindler’s List. Somehow she manages to escape with three men. One that would eventually become my grandfather. They hid in the forest and traveled west. Finding their way to the Poland boarder. Fast forward 5 years when the Germans showed up. My grandmother, pregnant with my father and her husband were shipped to Germany to work in the camps. She never saw her husband again, but somehow survived. Gave birth to my father on March 26, 1945 in the camp and was luckily liberated shortly after that from the same Russian troops that murdered her family. They were stuck in Germany, unable to return to Ukraine. Saint Nicholas church from Chicago, IL was relocating Ukrainian refugees to America. They brought her and my father over and they moved to Ukrainian Village. Chicago and Western Ave. It’s the neighborhood I was born in. I’m not sure why I told the story or what I was trying to accomplish from it, but there it is.
    57 points
  18. Yea Corey Davis dropping a 30 yard pass on third down is on Zach Wilson Carter Dropping a would be 25 yard third down conversion is on Zach Wilson Ty Johnson dropping a 4th and 2 is on Zach Wilson Allowing free rushers down the middle of the “protection” is on Zach Wilson His OC calling 5 wide empty on 4th and 1 is on Zach Wilson
    57 points
  19. General Notes - Practice ran 2 hours and 20 minutes - They were in jerseys & shorts again, so in one week they've been in pads one time (rant over) - Josh Johnson was signed as the veteran QB he's wearing #9. He took no live reps - Alijah Vera-Tucker didn't practice, he was replaced at LG by Dan Feeney and Alex Lewis - In dead periods of practice Morgan Moses and George Fant would pull Mekhi Becton to the side to talk about "kick slides" and hand placement - Nice bounce back performance by the offense which allowed them to win the day. Strong running game and an impressive performance by Zach Wilson Player Notes - There were 1 on 1's today between the WR & CB, here are some highlights: * Bless Austin showed improved coverage skills as he had a breakup against Elijah Moore and a leaping INT against Denzel Mims. Is he finally going to take that step and be a complete CB? * Impressive positional coverage displayed by Michael Carter (CB). He was able to mirror the receiver and get multiple knockaways in his reps * As usual excellent footwork displayed by Elijah Moore shaking Marcus Maye among others in his reps to get open * Corey Davis displayed strong hands reaching around Bryce Hall and snatching a TD in one of his reps - Very effective run game displayed by the offense in the first period of 11 on 11's. Some highlights: * Tevin Coleman for a 15+ yard run to the right * Ty Johnson for a 20+ yard run to the right * Michael Carter for a 10+ yard run to the left * LaMical Perine with a 20+ yard up the middle, where he actually delivered a "blow" when the defenders tried to wrap him up * Austin Walter with a 10+ yard to the right QB Notes - I don't know if Mike White and James Morgan can actually play (pre-season will give us an indication) but I'll give them credit for being efficient in their reps. There are no fumbled snaps, very few penalties and not that many INT's. They seem to have a clue - Strong bounce back performance by Zach Wilson in all phases. Whether he was in the pocket or on the move he was accurate, displayed excellent arm strength and "threw receivers open" before they came out of their routes. Some of his highlights were: * A 20+ yarder to Keelan Cole before he finished his route * A 15+ yarder to Jamison Crowder off of a misdirection in the pocket * A 15+ yarder to Elijah Moore (with velocity) while falling away * A 30+ yarder down the sideline to Elijah Moore * On Monday Wilson held the ball and hesitated during the red zone 7 on 7 period. Today there was no hesitation and he dominated the period with multiple TD's. He seemed to learn where the holes are in the secondary and he attacked Standouts - Zach Wilson - Bless Austin - Michael Carter (CB) - Michael Carter (RB) - Elijah Moore - The running game Concerns - Let's see the defense recover tomorrow
    57 points
  20. Douglas, zach and saleh haters in their glory. If we lost, it would have been "We cant even beat Jax". We won so its this terrible thread. Enjoy your day miserable jet fans!
    56 points
  21. Clearly his best game as a pro - under very difficult circumstances. He's been progressing every week and been a completely different QB since his injury/personal coach being hired. Y'all got the complete game you were looking where Zach was a major contributor to the success of offense today. Still a ways to go for sure and we need to see this consistently - but dang this was fun to watch. It's a shame we lost - but we're watching a young player turn into a franchise QB right before our eyes...enjoy the ride.
    55 points
  22. You’d probably be able to find it easier on your own if you knew his name was John Franklin-Myers
    53 points
  23. The new uniforms suck. Since unveiling them, in the first half of the season, the Jets are 1-17. Stats don’t lie.
    53 points
  24. Are you feeling it? So much negativity, so much stress all around but are you feeling it? There is a new era of Jets football here. Mikey Macc is gone. Adam Gase is gone. Robert Saleh is here. This team is going to move fast. They will make mistakes but they won't sit back on their heels. If you are going to make a mistake, make it fast. Let's go. New QB. New offense. A legitimate NFL game plan. Quite the refreshing change. People are still sleeping on the Jets. They are paying for the sins of their fathers. This roster isn't perfect, far from it. But this team is going to punch people in the mouth. That starts Sunday with a win over the Panthers. Let's Go!!!!
    53 points
  25. It’s been a tough year, no doubt. It’s actually been a rough decade. But today we got a Christmas W. Could care less about “draft position” etc. You come To the games to root your team for a win. As I looked around the stadium I noticed how empty it was. I mean it was bad. But on every play, even when it hurt, Jets fans clapped on 3rd down and rooted for this team. I just want to say a thank you to all the Jet fans who came out today when you coulda be elsewhere. Coming out the stadium I took this pic. The sun was setting on a Jets win and I believe will rise in 2022 for us. We will remember these December 2021 games, and how hard it was when it get gets better. Heres to the Jets fan!
    52 points
  26. The Bengals are walking into a buzzsaw on Sunday. CJ Mosley, Coach Saleh, and Coach Ulbrich will have the defense running around and playing out of its mind. On offense Mike White will have a full week to practice with the starters. He will stay in the pocket better than Zach and allow the genius of Mike LaFleur to transpire on the field. The Bengals are a young team that are still learning how to win. The Jets will teach them a lesson that you need to bring it every week in this league. #AGNB!!
    52 points
  27. I posted this in his thread, but I think it deserves its own thread. See below. ”Hi Jim. I meant to text Wednesday but it’s been a hectic couple of days. I want to thank you for letting everyone on the Jets board know about Uncle John. I spent a lot of time throughout the day on Tuesday and Wednesday reading and rereading all of the heartfelt comments. I was really touched and I’m glad to know Uncle John had so many friends that shared his greatest love with him. Thank you again for finding us and posting on the board. I’d like to thank everyone on the board for their condolences if it’s possible for you to get the word out to them. Thank you again Jim. I hope the shoulder is healing well.”
    52 points
  28. Hey Everyone, @Maxman, aka Phil, shared with all of us the unfortunate news that his wife, Lauren, is battling cancer for the 3rd time. We all know she's going to win this fight and many have asked, besides kind words and prayers, how they can help. I reached out to Phil, suggesting I, and perhaps others, would be willing to take the burden of worrying about putting dinner on the table each night off of their plates, so that they could focus on healing. Phil graciously accepted the offer. So, now I turn to you. He's spent countless hours and dollars providing us this incredible community. Now, let's say thank you and we care about you. https://www.gofundme.com/f/jn-assemble In discussing this with him, we did agree that we didn't want anyone to be put out by this, so we're asking for donations to max out at $25 per person. I can't control this, but we didn't want to ask anyone to give anything that was a large financial outlay. Lastly, if anyone is concerned about the integrity of this, Phil and others on this site know 1) my full name and 2) my profession. The latter is important because my profession is guided by an extremely strict ethics board, and conducting this fundraiser with anything other then the highest level of integrity could effectively end my career. Rest assured, no money raised would be worth me doing anything besides exactly what I am promising to do. So please, if you feel like you benefit from this community Phil created - let's help him and his family as they go through this awful, but soon to be successful, process. Thanks. Let's go Jets! Let's go Lauren!
    52 points
  29. If we got Justin Jefferson, I would suck all your dicks
    51 points
  30. It was good to have pre-season football back after a year absence. Most will dismiss it, but there's nothing like live reps to see how your roster is developing. Let's take a look: Special Teams - This is my first time seeing Chris Naggar and I wasn't impressed. His leg was short on kickoffs and his FG attempt from 53 yards looked like a wounded duck. - Props to Denzel Mims for being on the coverage units. With him having a slow start to camp its crucial to make yourself valuable to the coaching staff by showing you can play specials. - Impressive "downing" of a punt by Vyncint Smith at the one yard line, as he raced into the end zone and knocked it back into the field of play. Defense - With so much youth in the secondary, it was good to see solid "back 7" coordination in pass coverage. Multiple PBU's from the likes of Jamien Sherwood, Brandin Echols and Javelin Guidry. - I don't care if it was "pre-season" how nice was it to see a DLine bring pressure and generate 5 sacks and 10 QB hits. And with the game "on the line" how shocking was it to see the defense actually end the game with a sack and a safety. Instead of allowing the offense to drive the field for a game winning score. - Its early and after a two year layoff I still have "LeVeon Bell concerns", but CJ Mosley was impressive in his return to the field. A noticeable difference in his speed/range allowed him to cover the middle of the field on the first play of the game and to knock down a seam pass. A 2018 Mosley with more speed would be a huge addition to this defense, we'll see. - Bryce Huff with a huge game as he got 2 sacks and multiple pressures. With the switch to a 4-3 and a return to his natural DE position Huff looked like an entirely different player. - Nice debut by Jonathan Marshall as he brought pressure up the middle, generated 1.5 sacks and ended the game with a safety. - Bad missed tackle by Zane Lewis on the 50+ yard NYG run. He came free off the left side, stumbled and let the RB out of the gate. Offense - Nice to finally see an effective run scheme and multiple "gash runs", particularly from the #1 OLine. In addition all the OLines did a good job securing the pocket for all the QB's. - They came up a little bit short (as they had to punt) but a nice end of game "4 minute" drive by the offense. They ran the ball effectively, drained the clock and almost kept NYG from getting the ball back. - Good to see Denzel Mims show up on offense (3 recs / 51 yards) after a very slow start to camp. Hopefully his epic "big boy" run where he dragged 4-5 defenders to pick up a first down will increase his confidence. - Nice game by Vyncint Smith (3 recs / 39 yards) as he ran with the #1's. - Bad showings by Kenny Yeboah and Austin Walter. Yeboah didn't secure the ball on his catch and gave up a fumble which set NYG up for their only score. And Walter had a night to forget where on one rep he got run over by a LB and allowed the QB to get hit. And on another rep he fell down on a running play, got back up took the handoff and then fumbled all on the same play. You can't make the team with that many mistakes. QB - I'm not going to gush over Zach Wilson and say he's "going to Canton" he was solid and efficient (6/9 63 yards). The best thing about his play was he didn't give off any "rookie vibes". If you didn't know who Wilson was and I said he was a third year QB just getting a couple of reps in preparation for the season you wouldn't have been shocked. There were no fumbled snaps, no missed assignments and no plays where he looked like a chicken with no head. - Nice performance by Mike White (13/19 127 yards), he looks like he could be a competent backup and James Morgan wasn't bad. After seeing the likes of Christian Hackenberg "wet the bed" in pre-season, credit the offensive staff for having the backups ready to play. With camp set to continue and the joint practices in GB this week, I can't wait to see Quinnen Williams, Alijah Vera-Tucker and Elijah Moore added back to both sides of the ball.
    51 points
  31. Wilson & Wilson...Carter I & Carter II...Johnson & Johnson... Bryce Hall and Breece Hall??????
    50 points
  32. Ok, here we go! You need this! A rebirth of renewed Zach Wilson hope gifted to you by a Dolphins fan! I watch or atleast keep an eye on every Jets game. So I’m very familiar with Zachs strengths and weaknesses. While I want him to fail miserably because he’s our rival, I can’t see how some of you can’t see the potential he oozes! Did you not see this kids insane Escapability yesterday? I mean it’s truly something. He does this multiple times a game too! It’s a trait that will eventually lead your team to many big plays. His short throw accuracy has been a wekapoint in his game but we’ve seen guys fix that. Josh Allen anyone? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I’d rather have Wilson’s game breaking potential over Mac Jones dink and dunk. This kid is 22 years old! We expect these kids to come in be elite right off the bat. No chance to grow. It’s really getting ridiculous. And your roster isn’t exactly stocked with top notch offensive talent and your defense does your offense very little favors.
    50 points
  33. On 7/31, 8/2 and 8/4 to file reports. Hopefully the weather cooperates
    49 points
  34. Couldn't wait to share this with you guys... Some of you like @TuscanyTile2know I live in Indianapolis, and some of you know that I have a background as an executive chef in the city and most of my time is centered around opening new restaurants locations across the US (calm down @The Crusher). Actually got to make a late dinner for the Giants coaching staff after they won the Superbowl here in Indy against NE. Anyways, when I have down time, it's usually for a couple weeks straight instead of 2 days off per week regularly. In that time off sometimes I will fill it with a couple different things, helping my buddy's landscaping biz, or Uber to fund my gun collection. Which brings us to today. I decided to go Uber a couple times last week due to the combine being in town, and this morning I got a request at the Marriott. I pick up a rider named Terry and we start chatting about lots of good restaurants downtown in Indy and then he starts talking combine talk and not wanting the combine to leave Indy (which is the consensus of virtually every single coach and scout in the league). So I casually mention that I'm a Jets fan, and he interrupts me and says "before you keep going, you should know I used to work for the Jets", it immediately clicks in my brain, and I asked, "are you Terry Bradway?". Indeed it was. He continued to talk about how much admiration he had for the organization. Talked about some of those brutal draft misses, but one thing I thought was cool, was his respect for Woody Johnson. He said when he left the team, Woody had a custom Jets jersey made for him with the number 14 (number of years he was with the team) and had it signed by every single player, coach, and member of the organization. He said Woody is extremely well liked and respected in house for how he treats everyone. Anyways, thought you guys would like to hear it. Some other interesting notes from giving combine rides... - Not that he would ever go #1 but someone high up in Jax said Kayvon is a POS and he wouldnt draft him top 10. Hearing him talk about it up close actually may have changed my mind about him. - One of the Bucs reporters is a gigantic Jets fan. Doesnt tell many people. - Jayln Armour Davis was a cool dude, but looks tiny up close, I could snap that dude in two without blinking. - Couple people with the Dolphins had some very choice words about Brian Flores. It was pretty bad. - I have to personally thank the NFL and their teams for the 3 new firearms I am buying today.
    48 points
  35. Wilson has steadily improved over the last 4-5 weeks. He played great today. F*ck them. /end thread
    48 points
  36. Over 20 completions Over 300 yards Two passing Touchdowns No interceptions The rebuild is going to work. Let's go Jets.
    48 points
  37. It’s been said a ton since the draft. Regardless of how these picks turn out, the vision and execution of a coherent plan has been incredible to watch. Every Jets GM since I’ve started watching in the early 2000s has just been winging it. Not Joe.
    47 points
  38. Haven’t seen you guys this pumped since the Denzel Mims pick.
    47 points
  39. Here’s the text of his post on a BYU message board: “Got to chat with ZW a little bit this week. Figured I’d share a few tidbits: • Asked him what the biggest surprise has been, being in the NFL. Didn’t hesitate to say it was the speed of the game. Guys being able to dedicate 100% of their focus to the game shifts them into an elite gear. Defenses anticipate everything so well that it’s very hard to be a step ahead. • Now that he’s Pro, said it feels normal and just part of his path, basically. Feels a lot more comfortable than at the start of the season. • Jets plan to sign a prolific free agent WR1 in the offseason, and use almost all their draft picks for the Defense (with maybe one late pick for OL). He is feeling excited about the chemistry going into next year. • He says it’s wild being on the field with guys like Tom Brady that he’s grown up watching. He joked about the AB situation and said he would gladly put AB into a Jets jersey, haha. • Misses the mountains, says he’s not a city guy. • Berrios is his best friend on the team. They’ve become really close. • He couldn’t watch all of the BYU games because of the late start times on the east coast, but he’s glad they had a great year. • People in Utah recognize him all the time, but he said a lot of the people in NJ still don’t recognize him while he’s out and about. Joked about being a nobody at the Indian restaurants. Very nice guy. Just at glance he looks stronger and maybe even a little taller than he was at BYU. Forgot to ask him about his knee, but based on his last couple of games it doesn’t seem to be too bad. Also forgot to ask about his off-season plans or Beck’s future with the Jets. Oh well. He is one of my favorite BYU players and I look forward to watching him make some noise for years to come in the NFL.”
    47 points
  40. Stop overthinking and nitpicking for stuff to cry about. It really is this simple. Nobody better than Damien Woody when it comes to talking about the Jets.
    47 points
  41. It is game day. It is a new era. Out with the old. In with the new. Jets football is going to be different. That is good news for all of us. I won't name the names, but the stench has left the building. Zach Wilson makes a statement week one. Robert Saleh gets his first coaching victory in week one. The Jets show the world they are finally headed in the right direction. Let's go Jets. This team is hungry for heaven.
    47 points
  42. The most surprising thing about this is that we didn't trade for him right before this happened.
    46 points
  43. Any old timers? Like 60% of the folks on here still have VCR's that are flashing 12:00.
    46 points
  44. 46 points
  45. We have a starting QB on a rookie deal. Kind of low for a starter. Makes a lot of sense to have a slightly overpriced backup who can win games for you.
    45 points
  46. Any scenario of keeping Darnold over Wilson would be a disaster. Wilson already looks more advanced than Darnold.
    45 points
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