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At Barkley Center this evening, I was sitting in a suite with a few attorneys (I am an attorney, but you probably don’t care) and one is a player agent who preferred not to be mentioned. He said that since last year, after Elijah Moore demanded a trade, it was thought he came back to play and let go of his trade demand. This never happened. In fact, if you look into his twitter posts from that point on, he stressed bible verses about being disrespected and minimized by Jets coaching and management, not calling them out directly but subtly quoting certain passages and circling parts which mentioned those specific things. This has been a concern with the Jets management and once the Jets signed Allen Lazard and the OBJ rumors started up, he (not publicly this time) demanded to be traded again. Cleveland had made an offer early on and the Jets reconnected with them. A few other teams made lowball offers. Cleveland was the only team that would give us the 2nd. The Jets felt that if it were leaked out that he had demanded a trade again, we would lose leverage and wouldn’t have even gotten what we did for him. The agent also told me Moore and Saleh were not on speaking terms from the time he asked for a trade midseason and then was sent home, until he was traded. MLF and Moore had talked and Moore apologized to him. I am just passing on the info. Don’t know how true it is. The agent also said the Jets, under JD, had been offered trades for many of their draft picks from 2020 and 2021 including Becton, Mims, and Moore (not Wilson apparently) and refused to engage, as their preference was to keep their young guys and not give up on them, but they were forced into a corner with Moore and had to get rid of him while they could still salvage a decent draft pick and before OTAs, where it was likely he wouldn’t have showed up.

Nothing bad here. It's actually more restrained and forward looking than I expected. Jets receivers were frankly put through hell the last couple of years.

Part of the Jets speaking up Corey Davis the way Saleh has is gamesmanship. Packers are convinced he's just a throw-in so the Jets are trying to establish that he's a member of their team that they won't release if he's not included in the trade. As far as his comments about Zach- much of this has been known for a while. Zach has actually been going back-and-forth between NJ and Utah. He's been in touch with Aaron and they are planning on working out together for about a month in LA prior to training camp. Zach is going to try and coordinate another "Jets West" with Aaron and the receivers.

Denzel Mims could survive a nuclear explosion I swear.

Let’s not forget that as a 2nd rounder, Moore only got a 4 year deal. Which means at this time next year Moore is gonna be extra salty looking for a new deal. JD getting rid of the headache before it becomes a full blown migraine.

now number 8 is available.

So the Jets have a deal in place with GB which gives them #43. Now, with #42 in hand, JD can send a final FU to GB by drafting the player they would be targeting at #43. JD is a savage beast.

yes he reminds me of a number 2 alright but nothing to do with football

I feel like Jackson is coming off as both entitled and ungrateful. Baltimore drafted him when he was about to drop out of the first first round, and specifically designed an offense tailored to his strengths and concealing his weaknesses. His entire beef appears to be his hard line for a contract, to the point that he wants out now? I’d advise him to be careful about what he wants. I don’t think there are too many coaches/organizations who are as capable of putting him in such a position to succeed. As for the Jets, they can’t develop a traditional QB. Jackson would be a nightmare of Russell Wilson proportions here, and maybe worse.

Ross Tucker made a good point on his pod the other day. Said if Rodgers wants to get dealt, show up to the Packers facility and head to the weight room. Injury means the Packers are stuck with Rodgers and his $60 million salary so they probably deal him within 5 minutes.

One of the greats of NY sports. In the same category as Namath, Seaver and Mantle. RIP Captain

That's what they'd like you to think. They can't cut Rodgers bc his dead money would be $99 million for 2023. If they keep Rodgers they have to pay him his option of $58.3 million by week 1. They can decline his option and instead of that $58.3 million being a Signing bonus that can be spread over 4 years it will become part of his base salary for 2023. Which would make his cap hit for 2023 $90 million. They can't afford to release him or decline his option So if they don't trade him the only alternative is to pick up his option and cut him a $58.3 million check. But, if he retires after 2023 the Packers will take a $70 million dead cap hit. If they also exercise Loves 5th yr option, which they have to make a decision to do or not to do in May, they'll have $90 million tied up in the QB position in 2024 between the dead money and Loves contract. That'll put them $37 million OVER the cap in 2024 with only 33 players under contract So the synopsis is that the Packers have no other choice but to trade Aaron Rodgers. The Jets and the rest of the NFL know this. Any team trading for Aaron Rodgers is doing the Packers a huge favor. We can talk about leverage all day but the reality is that without Rodgers the Jets are a 9-8/10-7 team with someone like Tannehill. With Rodgers on the roster week 1 the Packers organization will be decimated by the crippling cap ramifications now and into the future. The Packers have way more to lose with this trade not going through. Everyone with a brain knows this.

I don't know where you get these ideas, other than flinging doody against a wall to see what sticks. In 2020, fresh off a SB victory with Mahomes, what position did KC draft with pick 32? Also in 2020, with Matt Stafford locked in, what'd Detroit do at #35? In 2021, coming off a 12-win season, Pittsburgh (Ben) at #24? One pick later at #25, after drafting Lawrence #1, Jax did what? 2019 Oakland (Carr) at #24? 2018 Giants at #2 (bypassing QBs because they still believed in Eli) 2018 Seattle (R.Wilson) #27 2018 New England (Brady) at #31 2017 Carolina (Cam) at #8 2016 Dallas (Romo) at #4 2015 Chargers (Rivers) at #15 I'm stopping here, though I could easily go on, but it seems as usual you're dead wrong. Every one of these was a pick higher than Hall's #36 slot. Plus in none of these cases did the teams have the luxury of already selecting 3 players in that same draft before drafting a RB, as the Jets had. I mean, literally the polar opposite of your take is the NFL trend: teams more often take a RB in (or nominally after) round 1 when they do have "actual talent" in place at QB. Even times when teams didn't, it's typical it's just because they incorrectly felt they did: the '22 Jets (Zach), '18 Browns (Mayfield), '17 Jax (Bortles), etc. They weren't drafting RBs with the goal of hiding their in-place FQBs. FFS

Didn't bother him much...

LOL at you guys letting bitonti get to you. The guy has made an art form out of being wrong. A broken clock has a better track record than he does.

Hopkins > OBJ

Meh. Would've been nice to see him with Rodgers. But seemed inevitable with the way last year went.

F*ck it trade for both

I mean if he plays two years behind Rodgers he may turn it around. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Guys, the “stop posting and prove it on the field” stuff is old men yelling at clouds. Obviously that’s why he’s doing this. I get the frustration but we should all he rooting for a comeback. He was really good when healthy.

Sorry, I'm only up to page 174. Hoping to take a few days off work to get caught up.

" It would be Disingenuous and negotiating in Bad Faith if we went down that path " Translation ... We're not dealbreaking b**ches like Green Bays front office.

Apparently he's only 9 lbs. heavier than Sauce now.

The Chiefs are on national tv 18 times a year and some of you don’t know who Hardman is?

Someday the Braxton Berrios type player will no longer be on this team. Nice upgrade

This fanbase is hysterical the Packers wanted two 1sts then the 13th but one 2nd this year and a low 2nd next year is them robbing us? lmao Bunch of clowns around here.

Doing a detrimental deal or waiting until the deal is more to our benefit with no deadline on the horizon until at least July. We wait, no matter how much the impatient fans bitch.

Jersey is better in the first photo

Great character guy, a real pro. Might do well in our system that rotates a lot.

This is very believable and if true great job by Douglas. They have a tight reign on info and this is a great benefit of that. Word gets out and you aren't getting a 2nd rounder back. Granted they gave up the 3rd blah blah blah but the comp would be even lower than that. If Moore didn't demand the trade it was still a concern that he would go off the rails with Lazard and possibly Odell here.

We are ranked dead last in most offense categories over the past 10 years. I’ll gladly give 2 seconds for not having to endure watching 17 games of 3 and outs and wondering what bad thing is going to happen when our qb drops back to pass. I don’t care if the guy is 40.

It’s too much. Two 2nds plus his salary for 1 year of football from a 40 year old QB who just said he was “90% retired” in his own mind??

He’s a killer. He’s going to get it done eventually.

“No deadline. Not a ton of urgency. We are not where we need to be right now.” “We have a really good plan in place.” For plan B. lol. If there was any doubt JD plans to slow roll until he likes the deal, there it is.

Yes, he is. Could've had Minshew for $3.6M. JD has learned nothing about managing the QB room, sadly.

Badly worded poll as with most polls on here. Extremes and assumptions. But I answered it.

If your wife is suggesting that you drive to NY to scalp a ticket to see Kiss by yourself, I strongly suggest you hold onto her. That’s a keeper.

If you enjoyed @bitonti's "tread on the tires" argument against Breece Hall, you're going to LOVE what he has to say about Ezekiel Elliott!

Nice

Yeah F U schefty boy

The Blazing Black Braxton Berrios! Solid move. (Don't get triggered. I just like alliteration. lol)

who gives away their plan B in the middle of negotiations?

Zach would make both their lives hell.

Jesus dude... you are insufferable crank... nothing is right, everything is wrong... Jets suck and they can't do anything right.... JD can't draft except for when he can... JD is horrible at trades except for when he isn't.... The players are garbage except for when they perform... The coaches all suck whether they win or lose. Woody Johnson is a cheap bastard that gets in the way except all the money he spent improving the back office.... Zach Wilson was only drafted out of a favor to Wilson's uncle who was already a sponsor of the Jets but is the only reason Jet Blue sponsors the Jets and it has nothing to do with the mascot of the team... A HOF QB coming to the Jets is the worst move ever because the Jets never win and they are mortgaging the future. I mean seriously WTF...

My apologies. It's been a long weekend and there have been multiple people tagging me for ridiculous reasons, and confuse who is saying what Here is what is going on: Jets and Packers pretty much agreed on the basic compensation: 2nd + conditional + a player for Rodgers. Jets want the Packers to take on more money + send an additional Day 3 pick whereas the Packers want the Jets to take on more money otherwise send more compensation. If/when Rodgers is traded, the Packers lose an additional $8.7 million and would be on their books for $40.3 million in 2023 instead of $31.6 million if he's on the roster. The Jets wanted them to take on more money by restructuring his contract and converting some of the option bonus into a signing/roster bonus. My guess is the Jets would cave on this (if they haven't already), but would want a Day 3 pick thrown in. The Packers don't want to take on any more money in the Rodgers deal. In fact, they want the Jets to take on money for Corey Davis. The Jets can do that by converting $9.4 million into a guaranteed salary/bonus, in which case he would only be on the books for $1.1 million for the Packers. If not, the Packers want the Jets to add value to the deal, which the Jets think is BS since they had the basic parameters in place. The Jets feel its the Packers responsibility to renegotiate Davis contract, not theirs, but the Packers see it as a way to get a good player under contract for virtually nothing (and would seemingly "make up" for the $8.7 million additional loss they take on for trading Rodgers). There are also rumors that the Packers are playing hardball because they're annoyed with Rodgers and how he basically trashed them on the way out. Gutekunst never liked Rodgers but basically was forced into making nice with him, so this is his way of saying F u for all that you put me through. I don't know much from their perspective so hard to say whether that's real or not If there was a deadline to make a deal, they would figure it out. Right now there isn't any. My guess is it ultimately gets done at the owner's meeting next week. If not then, it can drag out until the draft until one or both sides cave.

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