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  1. On 1/30/2022 at 12:48 PM, hmhertz said:

    To those of you stupid fvcks questioning my bona fide as a

    Jets fan ask Slats or D Cat. I come from another board where I

    had over 100,000 post. My love for this God forsaken team

    goes back to 1960, even before they were renamed the Jets.

    My following the Jets has helped the treatment of a neurological disease

    (Myasthenia gravis), through a relationship I had with Weeb Ewbank.

    I conclude with some heart felt advice,  for those who consider themselves

    true Jets fans and doubt my sincerity you are welcomed to kiss my wrinkled

    old a$$







    English is hard

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  2. On 4/22/2022 at 3:12 PM, Dwight Englewood said:

    Same nonsense excuse Macagnan apologists made for him the first 2 years he was here.  "You can't expect him to win he has to rebuild from Idzik's 2013 draft."  


    At some point Bill Parcells' old saying has to apply "you are what your record says you are"


    Douglas has done nothing so far to indicate he's even an average evaluator of talent.  In fact, he might be worse than the previous 2 GM's the Jets had which is incredible.


  3. I would love for posters that want to trade for him to explain why he is worth 30 mil a year?    The only reason he wants to be traded is because SF does not believe he is worth it.   
    He is a nice weapon but not a top 5 wr and not a player worth a huge contract. 
    He is going to get someone fired that will pay him that kind of money. 

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  4. 33 minutes ago, Bronx said:

    The NY Jets should pivot their free agent WR focus to Russell Gage

    With the big names gone, it's time for the New York Jets to pivot to the next tier of wide receiver targets, specifically Russell Gage.


    It’s time for the New York Jets to execute Plan B on the wide receiver market

    New York Jets fans entered the 2022 offseason with grandiose dreams at the wide receiver position. Joe Douglas was going to put all of his chips in the middle of the table and get Zach Wilson his Stefon Diggs. It was destiny.

    The NFL’s legal tampering period has yet to open and those dreams are already dashed. Amari Cooper, Chris Godwin, Davante Adams, Calvin Ridley, and even Mike Williams are all off the board, leaving Jets fans scrambling for answers.

    Douglas must turn to Plan B.

    Going after a mid-tier wide receiver option to join Elijah Moore and Corey Davis may not have been what fans had in mind entering the offseason, but it is the best path left for Douglas to take. New York cannot punt on the veteran market and bank on a rookie wideout to immediately provide the reliability that Wilson needs in his crucial second season.

    The Jets need to round out their starting wide receiver trio with a third proven weapon who they know can help right away. A veteran player is a known commodity whose performance is somewhat predictable. Rookies are a complete crapshoot.

    History tells us that rookie wide receivers tend to produce at a very modest level regardless of where they are drafted. You never know if you’re getting an Elijah Moore or a Stephen Hill – and the Jets simply cannot afford to have a Hill-level liability bogging down Wilson this year.

    After adding a free agent, the Jets can absolutely still consider selecting a wide receiver in the first or second round of the NFL draft. With Moore on an affordable rookie deal and Davis’ contract becoming escapable after the 2022 season, there is nothing prohibiting the Jets from still drafting a receiver even if they complete their starting lineup with a mid-tier free agent signing.

    Having too many weapons is never a bad thing. Plus, the aforementioned path allows the youngster to develop at his own pace.

    The bottom line is that the Jets have to come out of free agency with a third starting-quality wide receiver to pair with Moore and Davis. If they fail to do that and choose to rely on a rookie to step in as a starter, they will be taking a huge risk that could damage Wilson’s development.

    There are plenty of intriguing options left for New York to consider at the position, including Allen Robinson, Christian Kirk, Michael Gallup, D.J. Chark, Cedrick Wilson, and my favorite of the bunch, Russell Gage.

    I believe that signing Gage and later drafting a wide receiver with a top-40 pick is the Jets’ best path forward at the position.

    Let’s dig into Gage’s profile to learn why he makes sense for New York.

    Contract estimation

    Gage just averaged 4.7 receptions per game, 55.0 yards per game, and 0.29 touchdowns per game (66/770/4 in 14 games) in his age-25 season for the Atlanta Falcons. He turned 26 in January.

    Looking at some comparable free agents from the 2021 class, it appears Gage should come at an affordable cost for New York:

    • Curtis Samuel, entering age-25 season: Coming off 5.1/56.7/0.20 (77/851/3 in 15G), signed 3-year, $34.5M deal with Washington
    • Nelson Agholor, entering age-28 season: Coming off 3.0/56.0/0.50 (48/896/8 in 16G), signed 2-year, $22M deal with Las Vegas
    • JuJu Smith-Schuster, entering age-25 season: Coming off 6.1/51.9/0.56 (97/831/9 in 16G), signed 1-year, $8M deal with Pittsburgh
    • Kendrick Bourne, entering age-26 season: Coming off 3.3/44.5/0.13 (49/667/2 in 15G), signed 3-year, $15M deal with New England
    • Collectively, those four free agents have about the same profile as Gage, combining for an average line of 4.4/52.3/0.34 (vs. Gage’s 4.7/55.0/0.29) while entering their age-26.0 season on average. The average yearly salary amongst the four players was about $8.9 million.

      So, let’s say that a reasonable contract projection for Gage is a three-year, $27 million deal ($9 million per year). That’s very affordable – it would currently rank as the 29th-largest contract among wide receivers in terms of total value and the 30th-largest in terms of average annual value.

      Such a deal would likely make Gage a cheaper option than other free agents like Allen Robinson and Christian Kirk, who Spotrac projects to earn annual salaries of $16.3 million and $11.8 million, respectively.

      You might be thinking: “Well, sure, that’s because Gage is worse than those players.”

      As we are about to find out, that might not actually be the case.

      Gage has the potential to go down as the best value signing on the 2022 free-agent market.

    Please list who wrote this?  Where did it come from. 

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  5. 57 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

    I think it’s safe to say that this year’s top 10 draft class will go down as one of the poorest in years. The “premium positions” ( QB, Tackle, DE, CB ) all have question marks. Thankfully, we don’t need to draft a QB. I wouldn’t want to be the Texans , Giants, Carolina, or Pittsburgh this year. I guess we’re not that unlucky after all? Nah, we’re cursed. I digress. Even The two top tackles haven’t yet distanced themselves, and Hutchinson has his question marks too.

    So it’s still anyone’s guess how picks 1, 2, and 3 will end up being. The perfect scenario would be Tackle at 1, DE at 2, then QB at 3. But the QB class is just piss poor.

    so what are the possible outcomes at 4?  Again, I’ll preface this by mentioning that this pick must only be used to select a “premium position ( QB, Tackle, DE, CB ) I’m sorry, but I don’t want to hear about that safety. The safety position isn’t a premium position. Period. We learned that the hard way already.

    DE options: Thibodeaux was the consensus pick before the combine but he has stirred the pot somewhat. The scouting staff will now have to do a thorough due diligence on this guy. He’s now got to check all the “boxes” but As I mentioned in other threads, Thibodeaux might be a headache in the locker room. He might not be “ football first “. Now, He’s Still a possibility, but instead of solidify things, he’s done the opposite. Whoever’s his agent, he should be fired.

    Then there’s T Walker. He made himself lots of money at the combine. He’s apparently a high character guy and a team player.  His drawback is that he hasn’t been so productive but that may be due the depth of talent on Georgia’s D Line. He might be the sleeper pick…I think he played at the Senior bowl? If so, the Jet brass hopefully was taking notes.

    Ojabo is another sleeper. But picking him at 4? They’d have to be 1000% sure.

    CB: There’s a CBS report saying that we’re courting Carlton Davis. If this pans out, then there’s no reason to draft Sauce at 4. If they strike out signing a CB, then Sauce might be the pick. Is picking him at 4 a stretch? I’m not sure if he’d fit their defensive scheme? Stingley and Booth are both stretches at 4.

    Tackle. Then there’s talk of drafting either Neal or Ekwono at 4 who are tackles ( or at least they want to be), to play guard. Guard isn’t a premium position. You can sign a guard in FA or do like they so successfully did last year and draft a guard in the 2nd or third round. The only reason it would make sense to draft a tackle would be to buy “Beckton insurance” and that alone may be reason enough. But that would be a huge set back on JD’s rebuild project. If Becton is good to go, maybe some tackle-hungry team will trade up with us. That would be great.

    So, as you can see, there’s no clear-cut, consensus, can’t miss pick at 4. JD’s team have their hands full. The Silver lining is that many options exist, especially  trading down with various scenarios.

    I think coaching the senior bowl will prove to be a important factor and I wouldn’t be surprised if they select someone that many fans would question from the outside looking in.
    To me, The best scenario that could happen is that two teams fall in love with the same quarterback and race up to pick him at 4 but unfortunately , the quarterback quality in this year‘s draft class just isn’t there.

    The old adage is to build from the draft and compliment through free agency. We’ll see if it pans out that way. I have lots of conference in the front office. They proved last year that they can pick quality starters so there’s no reason why they can’t do it again.




    Once you said draft a G in the second round I stopped reading. 

    Jets did not draft a G in the second round. 

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  6. 1 hour ago, Anthony Jet said:

    I did like the Chan Bailey hire, 2015 I think the team played well and above there talent level for him. And I have an appreciation for the even keel emotion approach. 

    Im not saying that I think he is some great or even good head coach, I think the guy has earned another chance after his run in TB. That is all 

    He sucked something terrible.   He did nothing well, hired crap coaches, tossed them when he needed a scape goat. 
    he sucked in game adjustments. 
    He sucked at game planning.
    He sucked at disciplining the players.

    So exactly what do you think he did well??

  7. If anyone could not see the difference in play calling early in the game I don’t know what to tell ya.   

    no way Wilson could not have done as good a job throwing to wr’s who were wed open because of play call and design.  

    I assume everyone is as shocked as I am how well the game was designed and called.  

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  8. 13 hours ago, SAR I said:

    You're asking the wrong question.

    You need to ask why it matters seeing that Zach can't hit the side of a barn from 10 feet away.

    Zach's WR's making spectacular adjustments on his 50/50 balls are the only reason he has any TD's at all.

    SAR I

    I can’t wait to see you in the gallows!

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  9. On 9/27/2021 at 4:43 PM, FidelioJet said:

    This thread is not meant to point fingers at or cast blame on anyone, it's not for "I told you so's"- there are plenty threads for that...We are where we are now

    Let's look at the best way forward...

    With the #1 overall pick likely, 5 picks in the top 63 and a massive amount of available cap space it's possible the right GM can turn this around.

    Here are my thoughts...

    • You MUST put ZW on the shelf for the rest of the season.
    • Sign the best veteran QB you can find.  Someone that understands the situation the Jets are in and willing to take the lumps.  If that's Cam Newton than go get him.
    • Joe Douglas should be let go immediately and unfortunatley Hymie Elthai can take the reigns in the short term.  The new GM search starts now.
    • Chris Johnson needs to be placed as far away from this team as possible (say what you want about Woody but the team was never this bad under his control)
    • Trade the #1 overall pick for the best deal on the table.  This team needs so much that you'll have to pass on an elite level prospect if one's there.
    • Draft should focus on OL.  You can't do anything until you have an OL.  Once you feel like you have something there, then move on to other positions.
    • FA's, you have to go and spend, again on OL and bringing in over priced vets (hate to do it) but the team has to get to respectability. We're just so far away from even being competitive that you have to hold your nose to pay big for simply competent level talent
    • Let the new GM decide what to do with Saleh and the rest of the CS
    • ZW decision is a tough one.  Two options...
      • Shelve him this year and possibly more - let him practice and learn.  Regardless of how he looks in practice he should not start playing until you have a line that can protect him and receivers that can catch.  In fact I wouldn't even dress him on game days.  He shouldn't even go in due to injury with this roster.
      • Trade him while you can still get a #1 for him (likely high 1) and run with vets until you've built a competent team and THEN and only THEN go out and draft one.

    What do you guys think?






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  10. 2 hours ago, Albaniajet said:

    Sewell playing lights out at LT on a rookie contract means the lions may be looking to trade Decker in the near future.  We could bring him here for picks and move Becton to RT where he may be a better fit in the future


  11. 2 hours ago, Alka said:

    If the Panthers were so enamored with getting Darnold, as has been mentioned by Joe Douglas or Saleh (actually he said that they were aggressive I believe in getting Darnold), then why not ask for McCaffrey in return?

    I mean, isn't the QB supposed to be the most important position player on the team?  If that is the case, and it is, then this would have been the best scenario. 

    Unless of course, if the Panthers valued McCaffrey more than they did Sam Darnold?

    We don't know what the 2nd round, 4th round picks will be, and we already got the 6th round pick, but this is what JD should have demanded for Darnold.



  12. 34 minutes ago, Warfish said:

    Over commitment?

    Are you suggesting that the new rookie HC/O-Co should NOT install their systems, and should instead design a system on the fly in order to let a guy who lost the camp battle for a starting WR job get a starting job anyway, in a system where he doesn't need to know the route tree or run the right routes?

    I mean it seems they had the desired "limited group of plays" for Mims you want, he played a few plays, and got a catch on one of the simpler routes to run.


    They started two OL who both sucked in camp and preseason.  Guess they knew the playbook…

    as for developing the rookie QB, does anyone think it’s better for the WR to run the exact route and drop the pass or the WR improvise and catch the ball?


    I would think it better for the QB to catch the ball

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