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  1.       Walter football the 2nd best football website did not even rank him on cornerbacks.  They rank 25 to 30 players.     NFL DRAFT COUNTDOWN  the number 1 website ranked him 37 best CB. Enough said. 

    Where did bobfootball.com rank him?

  2. Just realize that Calvin Pryor is the exact same size as Johnny Manziel.

    Dude you are so annoying.  The draft is the best 3 days of the year, but all I see on this board today is 300 posts from you looking to pick at people.  Stop being such a message board douch.  Some guy says Pryor reminds him of Landry and you get all c.unty about it.  Maybe it's not that accurate but who cares.  They both hit hard that's all he's trying to say.  Someone says Pryor was brought in to help the turnover margin and you shoot that down.  I have news for you-- the current starting Safetys on the Jets had a combined 2 int's and 1 FF.  A playmaker in the secondary is more than necessary.  You can keep hating all you want, but this kid is a player, and he makes the Jets a better team. 

     

    11 more picks to go.  I can't even imagine how annoying you are going to be with those.

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  3. Kony Ealy-- Mark it down.  Guy is an animal.

     

    Quality players are lining up with needs at WR/TE bigtime.  Going into tonight with Ealy, Lee, Amaro, Jenkins and about 8 other WR's worthy of a 2/3 pick, I'm feeling very good.

     

    I'd love 2 picks in the second, or 3 total tonight.  Don't think 12 draft picks will make the squad, so lets consolidate a bit and take some surefire players today.

     

    Love the draft.

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  4. Dennard was the BPA pick but Pryor is a good fit for the scheme and the kind of safety that NFL teams covet in recent times. Decent pick.

    Dennard is 5-10 with short arms and ran a 4.5.  You watch him play in college and you can see he has questionable speed and had to rely on mugging guys a lot of the time.  If we thought he was BPA he would be a Jet right now. 

    Pryor is going to light it up.

  5. Yeah, would have even better if he didn't undermine his whole point by talking about NOT having a need at a certain position.

    Not undermining the point at all.  Pointing out to the guys crying about not drafting for need that Brandon Cooks playing slot WR would not really fill a need either.  If anything, Saftey is a bigger need than Slot WR.  Regardless- we got the best player.  The Jets had Pryor higher on the board than Cooks and that's the bottom line. 

  6. We're having two different discussions right now.

    OK I just went back and saw where you jumped in.  I see what you are saying with the "hole in my logic" but you're missing what I'm pointing out.  I'm saying Pryor was the best player available- not Cooks.  Period.  If Cooks was the best player available we would have drafted him regardless of Kerley.  But for fans crying that we did't get Cooks- we don't need the guy anyway- we have a good Slot guy in Kerley.  If we have a need at WR, it's not at the slot.  We got the best player available- we didn't go crazy and trade half our picks to fill a more pressing need, and we have 11 more picks. 

  7. That has nothing to do with the hole in your logic or the fact that you contradict yourself in blasting those who don't believe in strict BPA, yet you do the same thing by pointing out that we already have Jeremy Kerley playing the (pseudo, because calling Cooks a slot receiver is not true) same position as Cooks and therefore it would be wrong to draft him.

    Me bringing up Kerley has nothing do to with the Jets draft board.  If Cooks was the best player, they would have drafted him regardless of my views on Jeremy Kerley.  I just don't have that much pull with the organization anymore.

     

    From a fan perspective, I believe we don't need Cooks because he is a slot WR and we have one who's very good in my opinion.  Whether that factored into our decision to "pass on cooks" I don't know.  Personally, I just think we liked Pryor that much.  If we go WR I'd rather draft a guy with some size who's more suited for the outside.  But that's just fan talk.  If they picked him and truely thought he was the best guy, then I'd support it - Kerley or not.  But they didn't.  Because he wasn't the best player.  John Itzik isn't going to break his balls to placate crying fans.  Anyone crying about the offense needs to realize that we brought in the best QB, WR, RB in free agency.  We need 2 players on offense right now- #2 WR and #2 TE.  Guard is a possibility depending on their views on last years guys, RB is a possibility with two backs on 2 year deals and powel in his last year. 

  8. Well, my point is that BPA means you take the top guy on your draft board, no?

     

    But now that you mention it, to call Cooks a slot receiver is wrong. He played almost exclusively on the outside. If you want to hypothetically pass on a guy in your mind because of a projection as to where he "should" be playing, that's fine. We really have nothing to discuss then.

    Dude give it up.  Cooks wasn't BPA according to the board or we would have picked him.  If it was even close I'm sure Idzik would have gone with Cooks since WR is the more pressing need.  Cooks is 5 foot nothing and needs an accurate QB to be successful.  He'll do great with the Saints I'm sure but personally I like probably 6 more WR's who are still on the board better than Cooks.

     

    We didn't panic - we didn't trade 3 picks to overdraft Beckham in the top 10.  There are still 10 WR's and at least 2 TE's on the board who can come in and start.  I know what it's like to not be thrilled with the direction the draft is going, but you shouldn't be upset man.  Pryor is going to be a good player and will probably be our starter for years.  We still have 11 picks.  We could come out of the next 2 rounds with Jordan Matthews and Sef Jenkins.

  9. I don't mind the pick but I also don't understand why we needed a run stuffing safety

    When he's Sacking QB's, blasting the ball out of a WR's hands over the middle and forcing fumbles you will understand why we drafted him.  Landry makes no plays.  1 sack 1 int no FF in 16 games. 

     

    Just because youtube highlights show him knocking the pi$$ of guys doesn't mean he can't cover either.  He'll be the best Safety we've had in 20 years.

  10. Rex is incapable of coaching up the guys already on the roster.

    Oh yeah that's right.  Guys like Jim Leonard, Mike DeVito, Sione Pouha, Brodney Pool, Eric Smith, Marcus Dixon, Garret McIntire, Nick Bellor, Aaron Maybin and Drew Coleman are all such studs.    You do realize those guys were on our team when we went to the AFC Championship twice right?  What an idiotic statement.  We have had one of the least talented teams in the NFL and have done pretty well considering.  One of the worst QB situations in the NFL 5 years running.  Just stop.

  11. I know he's a favorite of a lot of smart people and that should be enough to buoy my dread spirits, and I know that we're in that roster-building stage where you just add as many decent players as you can regardless of position, but I hate the position picked and I don't think Pryor is on that Thomas/Berry level as a talent, personally. This defense worked at an elite capacity with garbage at safety. Does adding a better-than-Leonhard safety make it any better?

     

    So because he's not on the level of a top 5 pick it's a bad move?  Yes he makes us better.  Safety has been a need for years dude. 

  12. This is crazy- I don't understand the hate for the pick.  Pryor is a good player and we've needed a Safety for about 18 years now.  So many people preach Best player available-- then when it happens they cry because we didn't draft a WR.  Please.  Our WR situation is already twice as good as it was last year and we still have 11 picks left.  I've got news for you-- our next pick might not be a WR either.  We are taking advantage of the depth at WR.  Marquise Lee, Jordan Matthews, Moncrief, Lattimer, Adams, Robinson, Landry, Bryant, Richardson-- There's not a big difference between Odel Beckham and any of these guys.  Chances are, 2 or 3 of these guys will end up better than him anyway.  The wrong move would have been panicking and trading a  1 and 2 and 4 to move up for Odel Beckham, or picking Cooks at 18.  We don't need another slot WR.  Kerley is one of the few bright spots on our offense and it would make no sense picking Cooks.

     

    With Marquise Lee, Kony Ealy, Sef Jenkins and Jace Amaro on the board I hope we package up a 4th and scoop one of these guys early in the second.

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  13. While I doubt beckham would be the guy I wouldn't just dismiss this because if idzik being tight lipped. Last year it was leaked all over before day 2 of the draft that we were looking to trade up for geno. Everyone knew we were making a play at Vick and cj- they were talked about as foregone conclusions. I don't think idzik is as secretive as he's made out to be.

    I'm sure Idzik just let it slip, you know, accidentally that he wants to trade up.. And since he's such a gum-flapper, he probably mentioned what round he wants to trade into, and the exact player he's targeting. Because you know that crazy Izzy, he just loves to share information.

  14. He didn't, but he ended up with the DROY as part of his 2013 haul, and that was without using his own scouts. And he did so by making a pick most of us (including me) didn't like at the time. He makes the unpopular moves but they're having a tendency to work out so far. I'd say he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

    I love the double standard- Rex picked Wilson so has to deal with him but idzik gets the credit for Richardson (even though he fired all of the scouts who reported on Richardson.) the idzik homers will always find a way to defend him.

  15. Huh? If Garrard makes the team he's the starting QB. That is well worth $1M and then some.

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH.  Right- but he didn't.  Anyone who knows the first thing about David Garrard is he would never be able to make it.  He hasn't played since 2010 (it's 2013 now by the way)  He's totally beat up, and has been for a long time.  He had one decent year in 2007.  His last 3 seasons he's averaged 11 fumbles a season.  If you add up the number of sacks, int's and fumbles from his last season, and divide by the number of attempts, he gets sacked, fumbles or throws a pick 16% of the time.  Believe it or not, that's worse than Sanchez.  You can't defend a move like that.  Guy walks with 100K.  Unreal.

  16. He is a hypocrite because he only finds fault with the Jets for doing what every team does.

    I would be happy that the new additions the Jets cut were dirt cheap. Other teams cut expensive players. Other teams have already cut higher draft picks. They don't suck though and their GM is held in high esteem. Only the Jets are required to have every dirt-cheap camp fodder addition reap stellar, long-term benefits.

    It is hypocritical.

    So are you happy about Ivory and Goodson and their contracts?  I was not happy when we brought in either guy, and I'm more upset about both of them now.  I said Powell is better than either of them, and so far, that's how it looks.  Goodson has always been a knucklehead- fighting with teammates last year should have been the first clue on that one.  Both those guys are a dime a dozen for RB and we overpaid like crazy.  We could have had Stephen Jackson for the money those two bums got-- Jackson got 12 mil/4mil gauranteed for 3 years.  We get Ivory and goodson for that.

     

    I think the issue here is, any reasonably intelligent Jets fan would be able to easily see faults in way too many deals in recent history.  Not just in hindsight either.  A few that come to mind:  Harris' massive contract, Sanchez extention, Tebow, Holmes Contract, Restructuring Brick and Cro again, Goodson, Ivory, Trading picks away for mediocre players like Lito Sheppard-- screwing the future for a win now team- trading away picks for guys who come cheap for one year, then demand the big contract.  Signing Role Players like Eric Smith to 3 million dollar deals, giving gauranteed money to guys like Wayne Hunter.  Granted, many of these issues happened before Idzik got here, but you know what- fans have a right to bitch.  When I can call out a sh*tty move the day it happens 11 out of 11 times like I did with every one of these moves, then you know what-- I've earned the right to bitch.  Idzik seems to be gambling on his players way too much.  Everyone we picked up has injury or character concerns, or fumbles, or committs penalties.  If anyone on here thinks were a playoff team, you're just flat out wrong. 

  17. Posts like this do not do you credit (though I struggle to find ones that do).

    You would have everyone believe that the Jets were the only team to trim a roster down from 80 to 50.

    Every season, every team brings in camp fodder and cuts more new faces than they keep. And you know this, but you still only bring it up with the Jets. Other teams make FAR worse signings and make FAR worse draft picks, and still not a peep out of you. Your ire is reserved solely for the Jets.

    You are therefore a hypocrite.

    Dude, nobody is bitching about Ryan Quigley not making the team after Idzik invested in him.  Draft picks are about a 50/50 shot at panning out.  Free agents are going to have a much better success rate.  However, guys like Peterman, Garrard, Goodson and Ivory all look like straight up bad moves that cost us money and picks.  How hard is it to figure out that these guys either weren't that good, or had major risks that could possibly lead to them not making the team?  I'm not going to throw Garay into that mix because he was at least outplayed by two guys from the previous regeme. 

    The move that made 0 sense to me was letting two starting guards walk-- signing Colon to replace one, drafting Winters to replace the other, THEN signing peterman, THEN drafting another, THEN drafting ANOTHER. 

  18. It's $10M now? It's either $6 or $6.9M over 3 years.  

     

     

    Actually, Bohannon made the team because Lex frekin Hilliard broke his scapula.

     

     

    I think the cap situation is a bit overblown.  I haven't seen Idzik make any great moves.  He has been slow and steady and made zero splash in the market.  That is probably precisely what this team needed.  He has a free year.  If the team tanks 2013 it will be on Rex, so Idzik can sit back and get himself some kind of core together without the noose tightening around his neck. I have no doubt that a better team could have been put together on paper, but you don't win games on paper and now the guy has some flexibility to deal with things during the season and for next offseason.

    Ivory signed a deal up to 10 million.  Goodson signed a deal of 6.9.  I don't give a **** enough to argue it-- anything over $1.00 for goodson is a waste, and Ivory will be outplayed by a $600K a year guy who we already had on the roster.  Yes, Hilliard is injured-- hence, Bohannan made it by default, like I said.

  19. Idzik has proven one thing to me so far. He's a gambler. Every guy he brought in seems to be a major risk in some fashion. Almost every guy we brought in has major injury, character, fumbling or penalty concerns. I don't want a cowboy gm who takes unnecessary risks on my watch. I don't like my gm spending what little cap money we have on "if" players. If ivory and colon stay healthy/dont lead the league in penalties. If Goodson gets his sh*t together and stops fumbling. Think about this for a second. We invested 5 draft picks and most of our free cap space to rb and ol and they are both are worse than last year. We could have just kept Moore slausson and green and been better off. Could have let green go then draft ball lacy bell Bernard Michael and had our future starter. But no. We put all our resources into changing rb/ol, ignore wr s olb in the draft and next year we have the same set of holes to fill.

  20. look at the depth chart. a lot of guys who made the team.

    bohanon, campbell, Aboushi, Ivory, spadola, milliner, douzable, jarrett

    you keep beatin that drum but we know better

    Bohannon made the team by default. Jarret was brought in before idzik got here. Milliner?? Yes our top 10 draft pick made the team. Ivory made the team but I have higher expectations when we give out 10 mil and a 4th. Campbell aboushi and spadola all have no business being on a football field. Those guys don't make 80% of the squads in the nfl.

  21. Neither one of them will be on the team in 3 years, most likely. Its not going to cost 17 mil for the two of them.

    That makes me feel much better.  Sometimes people are so afraid to disagree with a move the GM makes, and just blindly support every move he makes.  How many bad signings/trades have we had this season?  David Garrard, Peterman, Goodson, Ivory?  Two are off the team, and so is their gauranteed money (not much, but still adds up)  Goodson will probably be cut- if he's not, he should be.  And Ivory, who was our savior according to most on this site, is already banged up, and hasn't shown anything.  Guy looks like a right guard with the football in his hands.  We wasted a 4th on him, and it will be a miracle if we see anything from our 5th and 6th round lineman who look absolutely horrible so far.  The early picks better pan out or we are looking at 5 years before we get this thing worked out.  Signings like Ivory and Goodson who flop, and suck up cap space are absolute killers.

  22. It's amazing that people are so upset at signing a guy that averages 4.5 a carry over his career, has 4.4 speed and catches 90 percent of the passes thrown his way. For TWO MILLION DOLLARS!!! AHHHHHHH!!! WE GET TO DRAFT ANOTHER POSITION EARLY AHHHHHHH!!!!! YOU MEAN WE'RE NOT WINNING THE SUPERBOWL THIS YEAR AHHHHHHH!!!!! OWEN MEANEY DIES AT THE END? AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

    Goodson and Ivory looking like Great pickups so far huh?  What's that, 17 million over 3 years between the two guys?  NICE!!

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