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    I was in the USMC stationed in Viet Nam, Quang Tri Province.

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  1. Mac attack is at once again. I've no problem with these long shots as long as they aren't taking up an unearned spot on the 53. I wonder who has the better chance of taking a regular game NFL snap, Teddy or Tony?
  2. LIJetsFan

    Donahue Instagram post

    These idiots. They put all they have into football all thru HS and college. Then they (not just this guy but all the knuckleheads out there) get their chance in the NFL. They get NFL $ and then proceed to screw it all up. I've no sympathy for him and his ilk. There was a saying when I was a kid in Brooklyn about a certain type of guy. If that guy didn't become a cop he would have become a criminal. Same applies here....if some of these knuckleheads didn't become NFL players they would have become criminals. I'm all for a locker room culture which cuts knuckleheads like this much much sooner rather than later.
  3. I think my sarcasm detector just went off
  4. The only things I recall Mac professing are: 1) BPA with need taken into account only if it's very close, and 2) OL in the later rounds. Maybe others can weigh in on this?
  5. Is this true? I've never hard anything of the like before. In all seriousness....
  6. Lee most likely never lives up to his draft slot but he is not an outright bust. He's somewhat below average but not a top priority for replacement, IMHO. We've got much bigger needs.
  7. https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/what-does-trenton-cannon-bring-to-the-jets/276312682 May 4, 2018; Florham Park, NJ, USA; New York Jets running back Trenton Cannon (40) during New York Jets rookie mini camp at Atlantic Health Training Center. Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports (Noah K. Murray) With their final pick of the 2018 draft, the Jets selected Virginia State running back Trenton Cannon. By that stage, you're no longer drafting for need, instead hoping to catch lightning in a bottle with a player that has development potential. The Jets will be hoping that Cannon, who is undersized and played his college football at the Division II level, will be that kind of player. Although he is listed as a running back, Cannon's shortest path to becoming a contributor on the 2018 Jets is special teams, as he led the nation in kick-off return average in 2017. However, he might also bring some things to the table that will persuade offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates to come up with ways to get him involved on offense. Let's consider the return game first, because it's evident Jets special teams coach Brant Boyer was heavily involved in the selection. He attended Cannon's pro day and worked him out personally as well as also being involved in the conversation when the Jets called Cannon during the sixth round to tell him they were selecting him. As noted, Cannon led the nation in kick return average at the Division II level last year and was almost as good in 2016. He had three touchdowns over the course of the two seasons, displaying speed, open-field running instincts and elusiveness. He does not, however, have any experience as a punt returner, which is another role the Jets need to fill. Ideally the Jets would prefer their return specialist to handle both roles, rather than having to use up two roster spots. Reports from rookie camp suggested Cannon looked comfortable fielding punts in drills. The Jets haven't returned a punt or a kick-off for a touchdown since Mike Westhoff's departure in 2012, although Boyer has noted on several occasions that they've often been close to breaking one in the past couple of seasons. One thing that's apparent from watching Cannon's film, both as a runner and a returner, is that he's not easy to catch once he gets into the open-field, so he could be a viable option to break a big play. Can the Jets also exploit that on offense though? Cannon's ability to be a big play threat on offense is summed up by his career average of 12.5 yards per catch. While scouting reports describe Cannon as not a natural pass catcher, his film reveals that he's a versatile pass-catching option who can run routes, get downfield and produce out of the slot and out wide. That's quite uncommon for running back prospects these days, as most of the more productive pass catchers generate most of their yardage simply by catching screens and dump-offs. Saquon Barkley, who went second overall to the Giants, was one exception, while the Jets' sixth-round pick from last year, Elijah McGuire, also displays wider-ranging capabilities. The Jets will often motion their lead back into the slot and go five-wide, especially on third downs with less than five yards to go. Bilal Powellconverted a few clutch third downs by running slant-type routes in such situations last year. Both Cannon and McGuire could handle these assignments, while also being a threat to get downfield on a wheel-route out of the backfield. It's anticipated that if Cannon has a role on offense it will be as a change-of-pace back. His lack of size could be an issue if he was required to carry a heavy workload and in pass protection, although he's still slightly bigger than Tarik Cohen who made an instant impact in his rookie season with the Bears. Cannon ran a 4.40 in the 40-yard dash at his pro day and that translates to his film. This could make him a good option on outside runs and draw plays, but he was productive between the tackles in college too and could be a good one-cut runner in Rick Dennison's new system. Cannon's head coach at VSU has some interesting connections to the Jets. Reggie Barlow, himself a former NFL running back and pro bowl return specialist, mentored Cannon over the past three years and obviously feels good about Cannon's chances to emulate his own achievements. Barlow was a teammate of Boyer's with the Jaguars for five seasons and was also on the Bucs for two years while Bates was coaching there. Clearly they've been keeping tabs on Barlow's pet project. As with any small-school prospect, Cannon is a long-shot to make it at the pro level, but it seems like the Jets have been interested in him for some time and targeted him specifically with a role in mind. It therefore seems likely they will try and find opportunities to get him involved, so he'll get his shot.
  8. Bowels plays vets. Winters is a vet. Bowels played Winters. Borderline criminal IMHO.
  9. I begrudged giving up our 2s but that was because I never ever thought we'd get Darnold.
  10. LIJetsFan

    Breaking Down the Jets Tight Ends

    Herndon is supposedly a decent blocker and Flowers is better than decent. So some OL help/support there. Both supposedly have soft hands. So that is a + 2 for the offense.
  11. LIJetsFan

    Jets bolstering their FO.

    Report: Packers to Lose Veteran College Scout Alonzo Dotson to Jets By Zachary Jacobson on May 08, 2018 with 10 Comments New Green Bay Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst will have another position to fill on his player personnel staff this summer. According to Michael Cohen of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Packers have lost veteran college scout Alonzo Dotson, who is expected to join the New York Jets' staff under the terms of a possible promotion. Dotson played college football for the Oklahoma Sooners as a defensive end for four seasons before working as an assistant coach at Madison High School for two years. Eventually, Dotson would find his way to Green Bay to work under Gutekunst's predecessor, Ted Thompson, as a defensive quality control coach. He worked with handling administrative duties, working with the defensive line and linebackers and organizing the offensive scout team. Among other duties, Dotson's background -- both as a player and as a coach -- made him an integral part of the personnel staff. Dotson was officially hired as a college scout in February 2013 by Thompson, serving in that role for five seasons. Dotson is the nephew of Santana Dotson, who played for the Packers for six seasons and was a critical part of the 1996 championship team, and the grandson of Alphonse Dotson, who was drafted by Green Bay in the second round of the 1965 draft. Eliot Wolf and Alonzo Highsmith -- two lengthily-tenured executives in the Packers' front office -- also left this offseason to assume high-ranking positions in the Cleveland Browns' football operations.
  12. LIJetsFan

    Jets UDFA Thread

    FB Dimitri Flowers Feeling Right at Home Posted 20 hours ago Randy LangeNYJets.com Contributor@rlangejets Jets' Undrafted FA from Oklahoma Comes from a Football Family and the Football-Mad State of Texas Three steps and one right turn past where Dimitri Flowers was sitting, a media scrum had broken out as Sam Darnold leaned against the outside walls of two banks of standing lockers for his first Jets news conference of rookie minicamp. Flowers barely batted an eye. "With Baker at Oklahoma, we had that all the time," he told me, referring of course to Baker Mayfield, the first quarterback taken in last week's draft before Darnold went to the Jets. Flowers was not in the same draft stratum as the first-round QBs — the Sooners' 6'2", 248-pound fullback was signed by the Jets as an undrafted free agent. But the NFL stage is clearly not too big for him. Part of that comes from his lineage. "My father was a first-round draft pick by the Bills back in 2000," he said. "Then my cousin this year just got drafted by the Seahawks in the fifth round." That would be dad Erik Flowers, the DE-LB out of Arizona State who was taken 26th overall and played 58 games for Buffalo, Houston and St. Louis over a five-year career, and cousin Tre Flowers, the strong safety out of Oklahoma State. But Dimitri Flowers is also a top student/athlete in his own right, a product of the crucibles of Texas high school football and baseball. At Churchill HS in San Antonio, he was a centerfielder in the spring and a running back, receiver and wildcat QB in the fall. "I never blocked in high school, or rarely did," he recalled. "So getting to Oklahoma, it took me a little while to adjust to playing that role. But I think I picked it up pretty well." Indeed, he was named All-Big 12 first team after his senior season, and for his OU career, while he had only 36 rushes for 151 yards and four TDs, he also totaled 54 receptions for 886 yards and 13 TDs. Includled in those totals were three catches for 53 yards and a TD pass from Mayfield in the Rose Bowl. "I never dropped a ball in college, and actually I'm tied with DeMarco Murray for receiving touchdowns by a running back at Oklahoma," Flowers said. "It's something I've always taken pride in. I don't always get a lot of opportunities, so I have to take advantage of them." And that's what he's doing now as he tries to carve out a spot on the Jets roster. It's still early in his pro career but he said, "I'm doing well. It's been a blast these past couple of days."
  13. LIJetsFan

    Breaking Down the Jets Tight Ends

    What does Chris Herndon bring to the Jets? By Bent | May 8 | 11:14PM May 4, 2018; Florham Park, NJ, USA; New York Jets tight end Chris Herndon (89) during New York Jets rookie mini camp at Atlantic Health Training Center. Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports (Noah K. Murray) The Jets selected tight end Chris Herndon with the first of their day three picks in the 2018 draft last month. Herndon, who went to college at Miami, was injured towards the end of the 2017 season, which may have prevented him from going earlier. The Jets scooped him up with the 107th overall pick and will be hoping he proves to be a bargain. Let's weigh up his likely role in 2018 before reviewing his strengths and weaknesses. The Jets have two contributors left from last year's team in Eric Tomlinson and Neal Sterling. Tomlinson is easily the best blocker they have at tight end and figures to resume the role of blocking specialist next season. Sterling, a converted wide receiver, didn't play much until the last game of the season, but turned heads with a five catch, 74-yard performance. They also added two players prior to the draft. Clive Walford is the most experienced tight end on the roster and probably the best option in terms of being able to contribute both as a blocker and a pass catcher. However, he fell out of favor in Oakland last year, so his spot isn't necessarily secure with all the youngsters nipping at his heels. Bucky Hodges is more of a long-shot. Perhaps the most interesting player to contrast Herndon with is Jordan Leggett. The Jets drafted Leggett in the fifth round last year and he showed some flashes in preseason, but then hurt his knee and ended up missing the whole year. Have the Jets given up on Leggett or do they see him and Herndon as two good young pieces to build their offense around? When making a comparison between Leggett and Herndon, it initially seems that more similarities than differences arise the more research and film study you carry out. They're basically the same size, profile similarly from an athletic standpoint, and their respective roles in their final year at college were also comparable. Knee issues are also something they share. There are some differences though, which suggest that they could both yet contribute next season, in distinct roles. Leggett is more of a downfield threat with superior agility numbers, while Herndon is more explosive, which makes him more of a threat after the catch. It's possible they could play together with Herndon being the "Y" or inline tight end and Leggett as the "F" or "move" tight end. Herndon played the majority of his snaps as a more conventional tight end in 2015 and 2016 and only transitioned into more of a slot-based role after David Njoku left for the NFL before the 2017 season. It's therefore possible they could have plans for each of them, although it could just as easily be a case of the Jets doubling-up on young tight ends with the hope that one of them steps up. That 2017 season was easily Herndon's most productive, though. In fact, had he not missed the last few games after injuring his knee, he might have surpassed Leggett's career-best of 46 receptions. However, watching his footage from last season shows that a lot of Herndon's production was simply catching passes underneath or in the flat and then picking up 6-8 yards after the catch. While this padded his stats and produced positive plays for the offense, he doesn't show as much as Leggett in terms of beating his man or creating separation and his numbers were nowhere near as good in terms of yardage and touchdowns. With Leggett's more dynamic downfield abilities, he could complement Herndon well if the rookie can generate positive outcomes as more of a safety valve-type. Of the two, Herndon is the more consistent blocker. Each showed improvements in their final year at college, but Leggett went from actively bad to barely competent while Herndon developed his efficiency. Herndon's improved grades might merely be a by-product of playing almost twice as many of his reps in the slot rather than in-line, but he has flashed an ability to set the edge and hold up at the point of attack. If it comes down to one roster spot between the two of them, Herndon's intangibles might stand him in good stead over Leggett, who has had attitude questions in his past, although his college coaches have said he had matured and managed to overcome these issues by the time he left school. Ultimately, Herndon seems like a player who might not have elite potential but should have an NFL future as long as he can get healthy. From the sounds of it, he could be good to go by OTAs, which is important because he can't afford to lose ground in what figures to be a crowded competition.
  14. I was convinced it was going to be Browns - Darnold, Giants - Rosen, Jets - (bringing up the distant rear) Mayfield. I could not be more shocked or more pleased with they way things fell. Go Jets!
  15. Fk the Ravens and the ship they rode in on Oh and fk the Steelers too while I'm at it.