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  1. A deep dive into the NY Jets’ constant injury woes: Is there a solution? By Rivka Boord 06/24/2022 To the casual observer, it seems as if the New York Jets have been one of the most injury-ridden teams in football over the past decade. Just last season, Carl Lawson tore his ACL before taking a regular-season snap, Mekhi Becton went down in Week 1, and key players including Zach Wilson, Corey Davis, Elijah Moore, Marcus Maye, and Michael Carter all missed significant playing time. The questions raised by these injuries are manifold: do the statistics show that the Jets really are more injury-prone than other teams? If so, is it due to the training staff, the medical staff, bad luck, or something else? What can teams and players do to prevent injuries? A study from The Compensation Experts, a leading UK personal compensation company, shows that some NFL teams have had many more injuries than others. From the 2019 season through Week 9 of the 2021 season, the Jets had the third-most injuries across all teams in the NFL with 91. Their approximate dollar loss of $40.3 million ranked 10th, though. This seems to indicate that either these injuries were more minor and did not require extensive recovery time or the injuries did not happen to the Jets’ top-paid players. However, a report on the 2021 season from BoxScore News indicates that the Jets lost the most man-games to injury of any other team in the NFL, at 237 (47 more than the second-most). Those injuries cost the Jets $28.7 million, also tops in the league. According to the report, Marcus Maye’s missed games cost the Jets $6.2 million – more than the entire injury costs of the Bills and Eagles! By all measures, the Jets were the most injured team in the NFL in 2021 and were certainly in the top 10 over the past three seasons. The eye test definitely does bear out. The bigger question is, why is this happening? Is there something the Jets can do to prevent it, or is this just bad luck? Mike Tanier of Football Outsiders wrote a 2020 article that humorously answers this. He points out that there are two prevailing thoughts in the NFL: injuries are caused by too much practice and not enough practice. In other words, pretty much anything and everything, however contradictory, will be blamed for a rash of injuries. He makes it clear that he is not saying there is no rhyme or reason to why injuries happen, but rather that the chief cause of injuries is simply the violent nature of the sport. According to a 2015 article in The Baltimore Beatdown by Dr. Bobby Esbrandt, athletes who get injured frequently usually have muscle imbalances, core stability deficits, and poor neuromuscular control. Esbrandt claims that NFL teams’ conditioning programs, which focus on developing muscle and strength, provide no help in correcting these issues. The Functional Movement Screen (FMS) is a test that was developed to screen athletes for these specific weaknesses. It was found that players who score 14 or lower out of a possible 21 are 12 times more likely to be seriously injured. However, many NFL teams use this screening, and serious injuries persist. Why, with all of sports science and such a large budget at their disposal, have teams not been able to mitigate the injury bug? Field surfaces and weather factors J.C. Tretter, the former Cleveland Browns center who is the president of the NFL Players Association, wrote an article about the dangers of artificial turf. He claimed, as have many others, that the artificial surface on game fields and practice fields causes stiffer joints, leading to many injuries in the lower extremities. The NFL injury data from 2012-18 shows a 28% increased risk of non-contact lower-extremity injury on turf compared to grass fields. Is it possible that the turf at MetLife Stadium has caused the Jets’ injury bug? Well, since the Giants have also been ravaged by injuries in recent seasons, there is possible support for that narrative. The San Francisco 49ers came out of their 2020 Week 2 matchup against the Jets complaining bitterly about the turf. However, at least in the Giants’ case, many of their biggest injuries occurred away from MetLife on grass or were not lower extremity. For the Jets, Mekhi Becton’s injury was a matter of bad luck; Greg Van Roten fell on his leg. Marcus Maye tore his Achilles in Indianapolis, where there is synthetic turf. Carl Lawson’s ruptured Achilles occurred at Ray Nitschke Field, which is the Packers’ artificial turf-surface practice field. Michael Carter’s high-ankle sprain happened at MetLife. Elijah Moore’s quad injury was at MetLife. Ultimately, a broader study of artificial turf and its effect on injuries would be needed to draw conclusions about turf. The numbers do not look good, but since the injuries have extended far beyond the lower extremities, it’s hard to say that the artificial turf is the sole reason for the Jets’ injury bug. It may be that a certain percentage of the excess injuries come from playing on artificial surfaces, though. Another weather-related factor that causes injuries appears to be the cold. According to a 2018 paper, concussion incidence goes up as temperature decreases. This is because the playing surfaces are harder, leading to harder hits to the head. Theoretically, a player who has already had concussions in the past would do better playing in milder weather. MetLife is not the coldest stadium in the league, but the Northeast temperatures get pretty rough as the season progresses. There might not be a good answer as to how injuries can be prevented When reading extensive research on injuries, the picture becomes so confusing that it is hard to get any consensus. For every Bill Belichick, who believes that decreased practice time leads to injuries, you have hard-core NFL Players’ Association advocates, who fine players and teams for too much contact in practice. You have beliefs about sports science, egg carton tests, neuromuscular imbalances, different types of cleats, compensation injuries, and too many other factors to name. It appears, then, that Mike Tanier’s tongue-in-cheek article provides the best answer. Sometimes, there is no good answer. Not every visible trend is going to have a reason; some team was going to have to have a trend of more injuries, and unfortunately for the Jets, they are that team. Perhaps the Giants and Jets should strongly consider switching to natural grass. But there isn’t much they can do about the cold weather or one player falling on another’s leg. The best they can do is follow sports science and hope that the rest falls into place. It’s not the medical staff’s fault. This is just the reality of a violent sport. I know that this is not the answer Jets fans will want to hear. It’s hard to digest that luck plays such a big role in a team’s fortunes. But this has been the reality of the NFL since its inception. The main takeaway is that roster construction must consist of 53 guys, not just the top 24. Luck is out of the Jets’ control. Now it’s time for Joe Douglas to take the reins on what he can control: building the depth of the roster to combat the attrition of a long season.
  2. My take was that according to Flacco, ZW was TOO worried and preoccupied about what the defense was doing. Seems he was saying that the offensive scheme has strengths the defense can't defend against IF you're concentration more on the scheme.
  3. If he wasn't a ST gunner we wouldn't even be having this conversation. IMHO that just ain't enough v.s. Mims' possible (but not probable) ceiling.
  4. I think JD can get something for Mims in a trade but not for Smith. Our current GM seems to have more and more good problems to solve.
  5. I heard or read somewhere that he can play inside as well as outside. Our HC loves that sort of versality. Also when he speaks he sounds like a man among boys. That is impressive. He might be a bit shady but as long as there are only very few in our locker room that shouldn't do any harm. I think he very well might turn out to be a good teammate and player for us.
  6. This former Jets scout evaluates fourth-round pick Micheal Clemons, praising his ability to rush the passer. DANIEL KELLY (author: is this Kelly guy legit?) Micheal Clemons is the best pass rusher on the Jets roster. That’s what I walked away thinking after I studied his game film at Texas A&M. Jets’ General Manager Joe Douglas scored big in the fourth round on this one. Clemons was tenacious as a pass rusher last season and he put on a clinic against LSU. How in the world could somebody as talented as Clemons last until the fourth round? Not everything is about the game film. Information gathering is a part of the evaluation process too and Clemons had some real red flags off the field. According to past reports, Clemons was arrested. Charges included unlawful carrying a weapon, failure to identify/giving false information, less than two ounces of marijuana possession, and driving with an invalid license. None of that stopped the Jets who felt comfortable taking Clemons. “We feel the talent level is obviously high,” Douglas said, per SNY. “What he brings from a length, toughness, and speed off the edge, certainly you can say he’s a first, second-day talent level. You get to a certain point in the draft where risk is mitigated. Felt good about that and where we added him.” So while there are off-field issues that were taken into consideration, I agree with Douglas. I would have done the same thing if a player of Clemons’ caliber was still sitting on the board in the fourth-round. Clemons was way better than Jets’ first-round pick Jermaine Johnson on game film. If you ask me, Clemons should have been the one who went in the first round and Johnson should have gone in the fourth round. Clemons was fun to watch and he was consistently a menace pressuring quarterbacks. I hardly had room in my notes for as many pressures as he had in just three games (46 pressures over 10 games in 2021). Now the Jets just have to keep their fingers crossed that Clemons “stays out of the newspapers and doesn’t go where he’s not wanted,” which is what Bill Parcells said at the end of practice back when he was the head coach of the Jets. New York has to hope that whole off-field situation was just a “one-off,” and a night of bad decisions. That may be a little too optimistic as most often behaviors tend to resurface, but the Jets had to try. New York’s pass-rush last season was pitiful, and they only averaged 1.9 sacks per game (No. 25). If the Jets’ defense can’t get to the QB, they do not stand a chance in today’s NFL. While John Franklin-Myers is decent, I would not hold my breath on Johnson, Jacob Martin or Carl Lawson. If he can stay out of trouble, Clemons is going to lead this team in sacks as a 25-year old rookie. Grading Micheal Clemons 6-foot-5, 270 pounds 2021 Texas A&M game film reviewed: Arkansas, LSU and Alabama 2021 stats: 32 tackles (23 solo), 11 tackles for loss, 7.0 sacks, 2 passes defensed Grade: A - (Blue-chip player and elite) Scouting Report Tenacious bullish human battering ram with natural brute power, good technique and he is QB minded. Mean and nasty disposition. Flip flops back and forth from left to right side and can line up with his hand in the dirt or standing up. Consistently wants to get to the passer. No frills power rusher who did not show any moves except spin back to the inside. Uses hands well at the point and combines strength to create needed separation. Never quits. Ball of energy. Can get hung out to dry on the perimeter but it takes a strong effort to stop him. Otherwise, just keeps coming and gets pressures that way too. Powerful human being. Ran over the LSU LT. Can stunt and push through inside gaps. Lacks top speed to consistently blow through the back door. Works to make tackles against the run. Occasionally comes off a block, chases one down or can blow things up on a stop for a loss. However, proved to be far less impactful vs. the run than the pass. Big pressure guy. Bottom Line Clemons has the mentality it takes to be elite. He is tough as a hammer and he thrives off the physicality of playing in the trenches. He smashes around inside like cars getting into accidents. Clemons does somethings most ends cannot do. I can’t say enough good things about Clemons. I recognize greatness when I see it.
  7. You had me up until the bold. I like what I'm hearing, especially the part about keeping players healthy (less injury prone?)
  8. Generally I post articles that I myself find interesting. I post them here figuring the debate and the boundaries of that debate will further my understanding of the game and my entertainment while watching. This message board almost never fails me.
  9. https://jetsxfactor.com/2022/06/02/ny-jets-improbable-wins-2022/ Week 1 vs. Baltimore Ravens Yes, it’s Week 1. Yes, the Ravens are coming off a disappointing, injury-riddled campaign. Lamar Jackson is playing to become a billionaire. The Jets did not address their interior run defense. Still, the Ravens’ run-heavy offense has a weakness that teams have begun to recognize. Alex Rollins, whose YouTube channel demonstrates advanced film study, breaks this down thoroughly in his video from August 2021. He discusses Jackson’s struggles in the playoffs during his first three seasons. In 2020, Jackson’s MVP season, the Titans stifled the Ravens’ offense in the playoffs with quarters coverage that brought the safeties down aggressively to defend the run game. Since the Ravens do not have legitimate deep threats, they are unable to capitalize on the aggressive run focus to beat the coverage over the top. Rashod Bateman may be a popular breakout candidate, but offensive coordinator Greg Roman has not proven that he can deploy his receivers to take advantage of the holes in the defense. Fortunately, the Jets have the personnel to run this same coverage. Sauce Gardner and D.J. Reed can hold their own in quarters, while Jordan Whitehead and Jason Pinnock or Lamarcus Joyner can be aggressive in the run game. Meanwhile, the Jets may have a chance to do something on offense. The Ravens uncharacteristically struggled with pass rush last season. The Jets’ offensive line ranked 11th-best in the NFL, per PFF, even without their top guns for large parts of the year. Give Zach Wilson time to go through his reads, and with the weapons he has, good things will happen.
  10. New York Jets defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich revealed a plan for the defensive line that might not be the wisest approach. By Michael Nania 06/02/2022 Speaking to the media on Wednesday, New York Jets defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich revealed how he plans to distribute snaps amongst the team’s defensive linemen. Ulbrich said that “30 to 35 snaps” is approximately the maximum total that he wants any of the team’s linemen to play per game, citing the “level of fatigue that is associated with how we play.” “We don’t catch blocks, we don’t read blocks; things are on our terms,” Ulbrich said. “And when you play like that, when you play with your hair on fire, and you play with the energy and the strain that we demand of them, asking them to play any more than 35 snaps I think is detrimental to their health and to the quality of play. It would be much too extreme of an approach if the Jets really do end up sticking to that hard limit of 35 snaps per game. Look, I get the thinking here. The Jets want their defensive linemen to play fast, aggressive, and downhill. That is a taxing playstyle. More rest can be beneficial when you play that way. But a 30-to-35-snap limit is going way over the line. At that point, your best players are yielding far too many snaps to lesser talented backups. Rest is only worth so much – it is not worth trading 15 Quinnen Williams snaps for 15 Nathan Shepherd snaps. You are making your team worse by distributing reps in this fashion. The cost outweighs the reward. Going with a rotation-heavy approach is perfectly fine in regards to your second and third-tier players. But you cannot be handcuffing your stars like that. They need to be on the field for a high percentage of the snaps. It’s Ulbrich’s exact estimation of “30 to 35 snaps” that bugs me. I would completely understand if he just generally stated “we want to rotate our guys a lot” or something of that nature, but this specific number is ludicrous and I needed to let it be known how bizarre it would be if the Jets adhere to it. Let’s put it into perspective how incredibly extreme it would be if the Jets truly did limit all of their defensive linemen to no more than 35 snaps per game. How extreme is a 30-to-35 snap limit for defensive linemen? The Jets defense was on the field for 1,189 snaps last year, or an average of 69.9 snaps per game. This means that if a player averaged 30 snaps per game throughout the season, he would have played about 43% of the snaps, while an average of 35 snaps per game would make up a snap ratio of about 50%. It’s worth noting that the Jets defense did play a lot of snaps last year (because they were bad), but the numbers don’t change much even if you look at teams that played fewer snaps. The Bears defense played the fewest snaps of any team with 62.2 per game. At that rate, 30 snaps would be 48% and 35 snaps would be 56%. Come on. You’re really going to play Quinnen Williams, John Franklin-Myers, and Carl Lawson for only about half of each game? This would be a drastic decline for all three of these players. Williams averaged 40.9 snaps with a 59% ratio in 2021, and in 2020, he averaged 45.2 snaps with a 64% ratio. Even those numbers were relatively low for a top-tier defensive tackle like Williams. Many of his similarly-talented peers have snap ratios of over 70%, or sometimes even 80%. Critics like to compare Williams’ production unfavorably to Tennessee’s Jeffery Simmons, but guess what? Simmons averaged 54.8 snaps on an 85% ratio last year. He got substantially more chances to make plays than Williams did. On a per-snap basis, they produced at basically the same level. Williams had a sack once every 102.2 snaps (6 on 613) while Simmons had a sack once every 103.6 snaps (9 on 932). Williams should be playing more, not less. He’s a star-caliber talent who has been coughing up too many snaps to substantially less talented players. Now he is going to be yielding even more snaps to backups? That’s not a smart move, especially when you consider that the Jets don’t have much defensive tackle talent behind Williams (especially when it comes to run defense). Franklin-Myers averaged 44.8 snaps with a 64% ratio in 2021. After a solid year and with a cap hit of $12.5 million in 2022, you’re telling me that he is going to see his snap count sliced to the point where he plays no more than about 50% of the snaps in any game this year? Lawson averaged 45.2 snaps with a 68% ratio in 2020 for the Bengals. Sure, he is coming off a major Achilles injury and a slight cut to his snaps at the beginning of the year would be wise to help him ease back into action, but a dip to “30 to 35 snaps” is still too much. Even in the 2019 season, coming off a torn ACL in 2018, Lawson averaged 38.1 snaps with a 57% ratio, and he had a very productive season. By the end of 2019, Lawson was averaging 44.4 snaps and a 68% ratio over his final five games. Nobody in the NFL does what Ulbrich is proposing the Jets will do Not only would this limit be an enormous change for the Jets’ top stars, but it would be a completely unheard-of strategy in the current NFL. There were 132 defensive linemen who averaged at least 35.0 snaps per game in 2021 – an average of 4.1 players per team. Every team in the league had at least one player surpass the mark. All but one team (Buffalo) had at least two, and 30 teams had at least three. This idea seems to be very much Ulbrich’s doing, as Robert Saleh did not employ such a strategy during his days as the 49ers’ defensive coordinator. During San Francisco’s dominant 2019 season, Saleh had DeForest Buckner at 50.6 snaps on a 79% ratio, Nick Bosa at 48.6 snaps on a 76% ratio, and Arik Armstead at 48.5 snaps on a 75% ratio. Another key point in this equation is the fact that the idea of resting defensive linemen is already ingrained in the sport of football. Every team’s defensive linemen get plenty of rest. Teams know these guys need more rest than players at other positions and the sport is built around that. No defensive linemen in the NFL plays every snap or even close to it, whereas many cornerbacks, safeties, and linebackers do play 100% of the snaps on a weekly basis. Even the most heavily-worked defensive linemen in the league are resting for about one-fifth of the snaps or more. While a snap ratio of 70 to 80 percent may be relatively high for the position, it still includes plenty of rest. Great players don’t need to sit for half of the game to get adequate rest. The philosophy of heavy rotation pertains to the non-star players. Your stars need to be playing as many reps as they can handle. The Jets should not stick to the numbers that Ulbrich laid out Setting a hard cap of 35 snaps per game for a defensive line that features three top-end players in Williams, Franklin-Myers, and Lawson is flat-out silly in my opinion. There is little clear-cut evidence that cutting a defensive lineman’s snaps makes them play better or keeps them healthier. Look no further than Williams, who played better on a larger workload in 2020 than he did on a smaller one in 2021.
  11. Ravens with a D. Week 1 is looking better and better.
  12. I think they can find a replacement for much less $. Do we really want to pay 10.5% of our cap this this guy or guy like this? Further if we let him walk we might be in line for a nice comp pick later on.
  13. When I looked at the poll results it was 1 yes and 1 no. I think we can all stop reading now.
  14. Mac was worse than Idzik. One example, giving up 3 2nds to move up 3 spots. (I'll always hate that horse-face Manning) Idzik was terrible at it but at least Idzik had a plan.
  15. It will be a miracle if this guy or guys like him even make our practice squad. These are not the bad old days. Just say no to 25yo CLF players, please.
  16. ...and if Joe Montana had been in our division you all would have hated him too, right? The guy is a living legend. Ease off on the hate a little bit, please. However, fuk the Pats!
  17. I had no idea he could be used that way. Hope you're right and I hope it works. I'm pumped.
  18. So, IMHO we got the best offensive player in the draft. I can just hear Zack saying to himself: *Stud guard, check *Two big upgrades at TE, check *Best WR in the draft, check *Best RB in the draft, and one who might be a better football player than I am, check *2nd best TE is the draft, check
  19. So we get the 2nd best guy at his position at 101.....on offense no less!!!
  20. This is the pick I wanted for months. Never thought JD would kill it in the first round like he did and now this! We've gotten exponentially better in 2 days. FA wasn't too shabby either. JD is the man.
  21. What, wait....I heard that Woody was in charge of this draft......
  22. Yeah I can get behind this in my Jets fantasy brain. Pick up BAP OT and RB in the 2nd, BAP WR in the 3rd, and go Sack Exchange + Ground and Pound!
  23. I have no problem with us having the deepest OL in the league. Zack, Zack, Zack. Let's get it right for once in this dept.
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