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  1. 1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

    And now all of the reasonable and rationale fans come out of the woodwork to call out the 'over reactors'.  If yesterday's game wasn't reason enough to 'overreact' then running out of bounds to voluntarily take a 5 yard sack was!  Or completely losing sight of the clock AFTER A TV TIMEOUT for a penalty certainly was!  

    It IS time to overreact.  It is a time to be fed up with Gase.  There is absolutely no excuse for yesterday's sh*tshow.  It is time to be fed up with STILL seeing free agents stinking up the field!  Desir, McGovern, Van Roten, Perriman ALL STUNK.  Rookies can't get out of the trainers rooms and onto the field!  It's time to complain.  LOUDLY!

    I watched a lot of football yesterday.  And funnily enough, none of them had a the luxury of a real training camp, pre-season games, et al.  Some of them were breaking in new players and new coaches (i.e., Washington, Bengals) and yet I didn't see any team as unprepared and talent-less as the Jets.

    Stop overreacting to overreacting.  It's time to demand more.


    Ashtyn Davis sucked, how is this guy a S?  He looks like Braden Mann could kick his ass.   

    Could our edge rushers (Jenkins and Basham) have performed worse?

    Neville Hewitt and Harvey Langi are NOT NFL caliber LBs.

    Pierre Desir looked worthy of this year's Vance Joseph award.

    Other than Becton, the OL looked mediocre. 


  2. 32 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

    Douglas is the one with the 6-year deal.  Would it be cold-blooded?  Absolutely.  A decision that gets heavily criticized or makes Douglas look bad?  Probably not.  

    Besides, he could be shielded from some of that criticism by letting Christopher Johnson be the one to claim primary responsibility for the decision.

    Chris Johnson is the one who was captivated by Gase, so I dont think he'd be ready to break-up with his man crush after just two years.

  3. 3 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

    The problem is that you can’t realistically count on getting the number 1 pick.

    Only one team is going to get the chance to draft Lawrence and the Jets have a well established habit of ensuring that they are never that team by winning meaningless games in November and December. 

    Darnold turning into a good QB is probably more likely than us actually getting to pick number 1 overall. 

    If there was ever an easy 0-16 year for the Jets, it would be this year, there is not one sure win on the schedule. If we had the Chargers at home I would say that was a sure win, but we have to go out to the west coast and the Chargers have a good D.

  4. 7 hours ago, Team archer said:

    Hes doing everything he can with this trash offense. No qb can do anything with this. Every mistake he makes is because hes trying to make plays and hes looking dumb because of it. No talent on offense whatsoever. Trash recievers, bell is only trash because the line is bad and a work in progress. What else is sam suppose to do.

    Watching him today, I would say he's officially been Derek Carr'd.  The pass protection was NOT good today but it was not as bad as last year.  The biggest problem is we do not have any sort of running game whatsoever and we only have one WR on the roster who would start for another team.  Sam has no confidence in the OL, the receivers or himself at this stage. 

    Watching Sunday Night Football they mentioned how the Rams have a very simple playbook, they basically run the same plays over and over again but their execution is so flawless they end up succeeding (reminds you of the Patriots?).   The problem with a complicated read and react offense like Gase's (or Joe Walton's) if your offensive personnel is not full of geniuses and you don't practice every play to perfection - players will miss assignments and receivers will not make the correct reads.

    Watching Tom Brady today made me think the Bucs made a huge mistake, they have a chunk play offense - Arians has always ran one like that - he likes to go deep, but now they have a QB who is best at throwing shallow crosses, the Bucs personnel does not fit Brady's talents, so either the playbook must be twealed or Brady will struggle, as his long ball looks like a Pennington lollipop these days.  Josh Rosen is a better fit for Arians than Brady.


  5. 1 hour ago, JTJet said:

    I agree here. I would bet he is out a week or two, replaced, and dumped for a mid rounder before the trade deadline. 

    Aint nobody taking on that much salary, he'll have to be cut if they want him out.

  6. 50 minutes ago, JetNation said:

    Sam Darnold

    Sam Darnold told the media he missed too many throws and that he has to be better. He put the loss on himself and said it is on his shoulders.

    First off, we didn’t execute the way that we wanted to, especially in the first half. I put that on my shoulders. I missed way too many throws today. We had opportunities and I just missed guys. We’ve got to look at the tape and see what happened, but I just flat-out missed guys and that’s on me. And so I’ve got to be better and we’ve got to execute better. It’s as simple as that. Now we do have to go into the meetings tomorrow, kind of understand how we need to fix those things and make sure that—because they’re fixable, it’s the first game of the season—and so we’ve just got to go in with our heads up and be ready to learn from our mistakes and leave it at that.

    I think for us, we’re all competitors. Losing sucks no matter who it is. Obviously, it’s Week One. There were some details, guys, that we’ve got to figure out and we’re going to figure out. But it’s Week One and we’ve just got to figure out what we did wrong and correct those mistakes and not let them happen again.

    What happened on the interception on when Darnold took a sack instead of throwing the ball away?

    So, the interception was just a bad play to try to fit a ball in there that I shouldn’t have. And then the sack that I took was another, kind of what I said before, it’s a bad play, it’s inexcusable, there are no excuses for it. I’ve just got to be better. I was kind of waiting and I obviously waited too long for someone to get open and it was just a bad decision.

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    I think he stole those comments from Mark Sanchez.

  7. I like the Joe Brady idea, I'm not sure about a 30yo coach in NY tho.  I am not convinced  Eric Bienemy is head coaching material.

    Don;t kill me, but a guy I always liked is Jack del Rio, hire him and as brilliant of an offensive mind as you can find for OC.  del Rio won in Jacksonville (without a QB) and Oakland, both teams slipped due to attrition not because of him.  

    If you must have a young hip OC as the next HC go for former Jet Kevin O'Connell.

    I also like Robert Saleh SF DC) a lot as well.


  8. 3 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said:

    I was on board with giving Gase a chance, but I’ve seen enough now. His only success in the NFL is being OC for a HOF QB who essentially called his own plays. The Fins fired him because he failed and we’ve now seen enough to call him a failure with the Jets.

    To those blaming Darnold. He was bad in this game, but he’s looked good before, and unless you think Gase is a really good HC who is being held back by Darnold, the young man deserves a look while playing for a real NFL HC.

    Joe Douglas is not going to fire his buddy who got him an $18M contract.  Gase prolly told Douglas Sam is too dumb to pick up the offense so rather than spend $$$ and draft capital on the supporting cast Darnold needed to succeed he said **** it, lets tank for Trevor.

  9. 53 minutes ago, Rob Moore said:

    Still put up solid numbers last year with 80 tackles.  Looks like he’s been a starter his whole career.  Had 5 picks with 2 returned for TDS in 2018.

    Yes, but being a Jet fan who also follows the Giants, in my opinion though he played well, he did not live up to expectations in 2018 (was not great) and dropped off significantly in 2019.  Kind of reminds me of David Harris, his playing speed dropped off as he approached 30 to the point he became more of a liability than an asset on D.  

  10. 1. The Jets are competitive but just not good enough to win 7-9.

    2.  The Raiders win 10 games and make the playoffs.

    3.  The Steelers are as good as ever and win the AFC Championship.

    4.  The Brady experiment is almost a complete success as the Bucs make it to the NFC Championship game.

    5.  The Cowboys have the best D in the NFL and win the NFC Championship game/



  11. 2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

    Oliver is playing as I haven’t seen anything to suggest otherwise.

    Youre absolutely right regarding Allen. Jets need to get off the field on 3rd down. We can’t have them in a 3rd and 5 and Allen runs for 7. That will kill us. 

    Greg Williams loves blitzing the house on 3rd down and I expect Maye to play the Jamal role. Look for him to be lined up at the line of scrimmage on 3rd down going after Allen. The corners need to hold the fort down and can’t have Diggs blowing by them in single coverage.

    Look for Ashyton Davis to play the deep single high center field position. Corners will be on single coverage with Maye in the box. Davis will be flying all over the field

    If they try to play Maye in the Jamal role, he'll end up out for the year.

    Hewitt or Luvu should be the spy on Allen.

    I would look for 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 alignments most of the game with Davis getting a ton of snaps and a lot of blitzing from the safeties.

    The Bills pass rush is going to be even better than last year.  Have to see how banged up Levi Wallace and Josh Norman are - potentially a lucky break if they are hindered.  Lots of 3 TE sets with max protect and use of more athletic OL with lots of screens.  Cant envision much success running the ball, if anything will have to try to set up the run with the pass.

  12. Look, I am glad our OL may finally be respectable, and I understand sticking to the plan for the future.  Consider tho you cannot predict the future, you cannot guaranty draft picks will always be hits and if they are you cannot guaranty their success will be sustainable as injuries and Jamal Adams like scenarios can unfold.

    Also consider this could end up being an exceptionally weird NFL season - what if top teams have covid outbreaks opening the door for lessor teams to rise?

    My point is, you should always play to win, not to quote Herman, but our "franchise" QB has not had a decent supporting cast since he was drafted.   Would it have killed us to add one more WR so we are not relying on a rookie, a TE who has potential but hasn't played in two years, a TE coming off major ankle surgery who most likely lost a step or two and an oft-injured journeyman for Sam to work with?   Also, would it have killed the future to a sign one edge rusher? 

    Complacent with complacency?

    Is the real plan to stink this year and then trade Darnold? 

    Oh and BTW, what if Darnold's agent demands a renegotiation after the season? 

    On a side note, I personally do not buy into the theory that the Pats will tank this year.  I bet they work miracles with Cam Netwon and their offense will be much improved over last season.  Newton still has a cannon and those shallow crossers that Brady couldn't hit last year will now be effective again.  Winovich is an animal and watch Copeland become a sack machine.  I see NE going 11-5, the Bills 10-6, Miami 8-8, the Jets at 7-9.

  13. 23 hours ago, Jethead said:

    a) Woody is a cheap sob

    b) Nobody worth spending $ on

    c) all of the above


    I'll never forget Woody's comment “John is using the cash that he has,” Johnson told reporters. “Number one, he has some obligations going forward, as you guys know. But it’s really trying to find the best value and the best fit for the team, and not just wantonly spending in free agency. Our culture is one of building ourselves. 

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