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  1. 9 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

    First of all Fitz has an average arm he's not a rag arm. He can make the throws. And he threw 31 Td passes last year. Secondly long passes are over rated. They aren't that successful. You can win big without the long ball. The perfect example is your team. Third: I don't believe you.😉

    Also, league average? No shot. You cannot name 5 quarterbacks with less arm strength in the NFL.

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  2. 9 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

    First of all Fitz has an average arm he's not a rag arm. He can make the throws. And he threw 31 Td passes last year. Secondly long passes are over rated. They aren't that successful. You can win big without the long ball. The perfect example is your team. Third: I don't believe you.😉

    Tell that to every successful QB in the league.

     

    Shockingly, they all can and do perform successful deep passes on the regular.


  3. 7 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

    Honest question: If they had anyone they thought could start on the right side and were going to cut Breno to free up money, wouldn't that have been done already? That seems like a no brainer. 

    I think that guy is Qvale and I'd imagine they're waiting to see how each of them play in TC/preseason.

    Could also be waiting for a certain FA to sign before they cut him.

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  4. 59 minutes ago, slats said:

    The two year LB overhaul project is this year's headline. They're expecting Maudlin to take a big step forward, and Jenkins will be given the opportunity to start on the other side. Lee will see the field a lot, especially in nickel and dime packages. Be interesting to see how the utilize Freddie Bishop, too. If these guys can play up to their pretty lofty expectations, this could be a great year. I suspect we'll experience a lot of growing pains, though. Sucks with the rough start to the schedule. 

    They seemed to like Catapano too last season, potential darkhorse


  5. 13 hours ago, ylekram said:

    just another way of saying that geno will be a better qb when he stops doing things that make him a bad qb. do you not see how obvious that is?

    You denying the possibility that he can improve his mental mistakes because he had the luxury of being Marty Morhningweig/Rex Ryan's student is quite frustrating at this point. But I'm aware that people who can't see Fitz for what he is don't really get it.

     

    Being smarter in the pocket is not the same as arm strength. At this stage quarterbacks are what they are physically - it's the mental game they need to improve on. The little things are what kills Geno, and I'd rather see what we can get from him for one last season rather than watch Fitz sh*t the bed against good defenses.


  6. 1 minute ago, Smashmouth said:

    you know exactly what he was doing so stop the "Im losing this argument so I'm going to be a wise ass now" crap

    He made an analogy that makes total sense I'm guessing he used this method of argument because most people simply can't grasp that Geno absolutely sucks and plays the position recklessly and makes the same stupid mistakes he was making in year 1. He's Mark Sanchez part two but has no likeable qualities or leadership qualities.

    Now while Fitz had some bad games last year he played good over all and he played smart and in some cases very smart yet somehow posters here think Geno's a better option than Fitz and I find that to be ridiculous. Im not saying that's you but I will say that's why ylekram is using analogy's. 

    Fitz played well enough to win 12 games last year while some blame him for the Buffalo loss they refuse to blame the team for losses where the ST stunk up the joint and players fumbled away games and dropped game winning passes. It goes both ways.

    Except you can't compare learning to become an elite pass rusher to literally just "holding onto the football". I'm not losing this argument, because clearly he, and you, do not understand what I've been saying. Never said either one is a good option, or better than the other. In fact, I've said repeatedly that both are dogsh*t. I said it's conceivable to believe that Geno can replicate Fitz' success last season if he doesn't kill drives by fumbling and taking 15 yard sacks. That's all.


  7. 11 hours ago, ylekram said:

    also the difference between Lorenzo mauldin and von miller isn't far off either.if Lorenzo learns to rush the passer better, shed blocks, and get more sacks. I see where you are going with this. geno could be a better qb when geno stops doing the things that make him a bad qb. makes sense

    I never realized you could compare rushing the passer to holding onto a football until now. Until I read this Von Miller/Lorenzo Mauldin comparison I never truly appreciated how good Ryan Fitzpatrick is at quarterback. I feel enlightened. Thank you, Mark.


  8. 52 minutes ago, ylekram said:

    of course I left out the geno years.

    marty mornhinweg without geno-1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10, &12th

    marty mornhinweg with geno-22nd, 25th

    maybe, just maybe it was geno who didn't do a good job for us, not mornhinweg, as the evidence suggests

    Earlier you said that good OCs work to their players' strengths. I couldn't agree more. When you use TD:INT ratios to judge QBs, you're not including that Geno basically wasn't allowed to throw in the redzone. Rex would always choose to run it on first down, then when that failed, the next two plays were either a QB sneak or another run. I would suspect that 45% of our yards in those years came from running the ball.

    I never once said Geno was good, but that the difference between Fitz and Geno isn't far off if Geno loses the boneheaded sack plays, and holds onto the damn football. Geno's turnovers without a doubt hampered Morhningweig's overall stat line, just like some of Morhingweig's decisions in the redzone hampered Geno's TD:INT. In Gailey's system, they could have similar production if Geno improves his mental game.


  9. 1 minute ago, ylekram said:

    its as if you didn't read a word I posted. typical. way too much garbage to even consider responding to you, but I have time for 1. to the bolded

    During his career as an Offensive Coordinator, Mornhinweg's offenses have finished 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, and 12th in total offense, and regularly highly ranked in big plays.

    so in fact, geno did have that luxury. but since the 2013-2014 ny jets offenses sucked to high heaven, it must be that marty mornhiweg sucks and that geno didn't have the luxury of playing under an x factor. and your definition of an x factor is just a good coordinator.

    2014: averaged 326 yards/game. Ranked 22nd, while being 5th from last in total points scored.

    2013: averaged 318 yards/game. Ranked 25th, while being 4th from last in total points scored.

     

    I assume you're using football outsiders or something, otherwise those numbers are made up or you're leaving out his Jets years.

    Morhningweig did not do a good job for us, especially in the redzone.

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