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    10 hours ago, C Mart said:


    He does. Look at the college stats. Should not have even been drafted. If a QB can only complete passes in the mid 50's in college, how does that translate to the pros?  Below is from a scouting report.  Not the type of QB for a needy team.  If anything, a team like GB or NO would have been a better fit.  Do you think plays and will be good?  I dont think he has a snowballs chance in hell... 


     "The tape is just terrible over the last two years, but he has traits and leadership. His freshman tape is good, but how do you discount everything you've seen for two years? That freshman tape is going to lead a team to overdraft him." -- NFC executive


     Ryan Mallett


     Hackenberg has the size, athleticism and arm talent of a long-time NFL starter, but his accuracy issues go well beyond just "ball placement" problems. Teams must determine if his inaccuracy is innate or a product of the beatings he's taken, and then determine if he's shell-shocked or able to round back into form. Hackenberg's tools, intelligence and experience under center should make him an eventual starter, but his boom-or-bust potential will either get a coach an extension or fired.

    from another report...

    Although he has special arm talent, the tape shows flawed decision-making, poor pocket awareness and streaky accuracy due to unstable mechanics. There is no question that Hackenberg will benefit from NFL coaching, but the game still moves at light speed for him and hasn't shown signs of slowing down - is he already damaged goods? 

    Overall, the physical traits and arm strength are ideal for the NFL, but Hackenberg doesn't show a natural feel for the game and lacks a strong grasp in three critical areas of playing the position: touch, placement and decision-making.

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  2. 25 minutes ago, SAR I said:


    This is the only known photo of Bricklayer Bob who led the famous Generals chant from 1983-1985.

    The fond memories of him waving his trowel and 2,952 people chanting "N-E-W-J-E-R-S-E-Y-G-E-N-E-R-A-L-S" New Jersey Generals! New Jersey Generals! New Jersey Generals! New Jersey Generals!

    SAR I

    The Generals actually avereged around 37k per game.  My father was a STH and I always grabbed the tix. Sophmore-Senior years in High School and that was where I first started tailgating.  Senior year there were some epic tailgates. Fun league. Was bummed it ended. Football in nice weather.  

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  3. 19 hours ago, JetsFanatic said:

    Putting a mandate on a HC or a GM to make the playoffs would be outright dumb.  If he did, both Mac & Bowles would make "short term" moves which may be detrimental to the team in the long run. Example: trading a high draft pick for an older veteran just to be more competitive in 2017. An owner should never publicly proclaim playoffs or bust.

    Guys that cant draft should not be in the position to rebuild.  Lets see how Cook does this weekend, another 4th rd pick taken after Hackenberg, which IMO is enough of a reason to shake things up.  Did not hear the conference yesterday but heard Mac has marbles in his mouth like Bowles. 

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  4. 17 hours ago, Dcat said:

    I sat in section 123 from 1984 - 2003.  I remember the dueling endzones very well.  the East end was always better.

    I sat in Sec 301 in the old stadium and was next to the guy who lead the chant up there.  He was really into it and after many years stopped going and was never seen again.  Looked like he def enjoyed the pre game festivities.  

  5. 26 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

    Agree with most of what you say. But outside of the Scoreboards , better concessions and restrooms - the stadium truly sucks for its 1.6B cost. 

    Restrooms in the Mezz sections blow, not enough of them and stalls.... 

  6. Just now, Jet Nut said:

    How many games did Ross play? 6?  A return specialist, who's spot needed to be filled by someone who could fill in for the injured.  

    Point is accontability by a player isn't playing well.  You make it sound like if the players listen to the yelling we would have won the division   Need talent, not a better STs coach.  

    Was looking all year for some fire on this team.  My seats are in the endzone Mezz and I watched those returns all season and it was mind boggling.  There is a total lack of fire in the coaching staff.  

  7. 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    The KRs weren't experienced.  Or the rest of the unit.  If you don't have talent all the yelling or instruction will do any good. 

    They signed Jeremy Ross as a experienced returner.  It does not take rocket science to figure out what to run back or take a knee.  

    Jeremy Spencer Ross (born March 16, 1988) is an American football wide receiver and return specialist for the Arizona Cardinals of the National Football League (NFL). He was signed by the New England Cheaters as an undrafted free agent in 2011. He played college football at California.

    Ross has also been a member of the Indianapolis Colts, Green Bay Packers, Detroit Lions, Baltimore Ravens, Oakland Raiders, and New York Jets.

    During a game against the Philadelphia Eagles on December 8, 2013, Ross scored touchdowns on both a punt return and a kickoff return. This made him the first Lions player to do so since Eddie Payton on December 17, 1977

  8. 28 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    Accountability?  What does that have to due with lack of talent or the turnover this STs unit went through due to injuries?  If you aren't a KR all the yelling in he world isn't going to make you one.  All the yelling in the world isn't going to make a rookie punter, who everyone raved about, going from bottom of the league to the top.  Getting pissed and firing people just to assign blame doesn't fix anything

    The did have experienced kick returners.  Accountability is doing what you are told, and accountability is giving proper direction, aka coaching.  One would think that you do not try to return a kick off from 5 yards deep in the endzone time after time.  Ross (who was a career returner) did that all the time and it cost yards.  Not sure if the staff understood that you get the ball at the 25.  

  9. 32 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

    When a coach or a player signs on with the Jets, it's usually just not that person, but their family if they have a family . For the most part, I would venture to say that most coaches don't have the time to socialize on the message boards of their teams, but it's almost a certainty that some member of their family does .  Imagine you're that family member and you log on only to read your dad is a loser, or your brother, or son or even daughter . 

    Some of you folks ought to be a shame of yourself  with some of the comments I have to read . It's ok to be upset, and it's ok to want change, but personal insults against people you have very little knowledge about is wrong .  Questioning someone's intelligence base on what happens on a football field to make yourself feel better is miserable . What's more is all this is ruining a really nice message board

    Sermon over.

    That is all .

    When you get paid the big bucks, and take a job the is viewed by the public, you are under the microscope.  If you dont like it go back to private industry.  Coaches are criticized from pee wee on up when they suck (Rich Kotite) and praised when they do well (ex Bill Parcells) 

  10. As a PSL holder, with a stake in this mess, they should fire this special teams coach.  If this guy was worth anything, there would have been a lot if a$$es chewed out on the sideline.  How many times did we have to see guys running the ball out of the endzone only to end up between the 10 and 15 yard line?  To me that is coaching and accountability.  There was none as it happened repeatedly.  So here we have another coach who did not hold players accountable.  Sh!7 starts at the top and flows downstream.... 

  11. 3 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

    Hopefully he is out by the end of the day and Phillips hired. Bowles deserves a lot of the blame too for a dysfunctional defense and poor schemes with a lack of production but not Bowles time to get fired yet. He's the HC and gets another year to lead a rebound.

    Hopefully Bowles is gone by the end of the day, along with Mr. Rodgers.  The two of them ran a tight ship that sank. 

  12. 1 hour ago, Flushing Roots said:

    The Jets send out those questionnaires to STHs about the game day experience all the time.

    I'm with you that I'd like a little more quiet when play stops but what the Jets are doing must be a result of their research.

    We have to conclude that most fans like all the noise.

    If this is true it says a lot about the demographics of current STHs.

    It must be a much younger crowd than you or me.

    I don't know many 50+ fans that like an ear job during every time out.

    Waiting for the year end survey.  Going to go hard on the crappy in game experience.  

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