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  1. On 12/14/2018 at 12:26 PM, Jetsfan80 said:

    Yes because that plan was executed so well in 2015. 

    Not saying it is, like I said Macc has done little to build a sustainable winner through the draft like he's preached since getting here.  My point was that it's tough to just compare what the team looks like now vs. if we would've signed Cousins.  

  2. Not that I'm defending Macc b/c I'm at this point I'm on the side of just cleaning house but I would have to think if we had gotten Cousins we would've approached the offseason much differently and been in a more win-now mode, once that plan failed it was all about drafting a QB and building for the future.  At the end of the day though, it shouldn't excuse the complete lack of talent Macc has been unable to acquire in 4 years.  No true #1 Wide Receiver, no edge rusher, a mediocre at best o-line, a mediocre at best secondary in which we overpaid for Trumaine Johnson. 


    Regardless of how Macc has tried to sell management on his plan the question that ultimately should be asked is how much better are the Jets today then we Macc got here and the amswer is not much at all.  Getting Darnold doesn't excuse that either..

  3. I would put TE as low on the priority list, I think Hendon looks legit and Leggett has even showed promise.  Neil Sterling could be that #3 if he can stay healthy but def. low on priority list IMO.   I'm also intrigued by Nickerson as our nickel corner and would love to see him get some playing time down the stretch.  Of course with Bowles knowing he's fired he'll try to get that extra win or two over playing the younger guys so I doubt we'll see him or Deontey Burnett or even more Rishard Matthews.

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  4. 47 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    Nonsense,  being a competent GM has nothing to do with him reporting to the owner.  There isnt a GM in the league who doesnt report to the owner on a weekly, at least, basis.  And there isnt a NFL owner anywhere who doesnt get involved in big moves like trades and is in on draft thoughts. You want a different GM, I'm fine with that at this point.  Has nothing to do with needed two of them, which is essentially what a overseer to the GM is

    I'm speaking more to the fact that our HC reports to the owner putting him and the GM on the same level.  This organization needs to bring in a good football guy either at GM or above the GM and let him run the show.  I'm not defending Macc but the way we're structured right now means Chris Johnson is our "football czar"  c'mon.  Either bring in a GM and let him run the show or put someone above the GM to run the show who isn't a Johnson.

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  5. 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

    The Johnsons know as much about football as any other owner and they all dont need a czar.  Seems to me its just another layer above the GM and below the owner.  Dont see much to it.  Parcells was handed the job in Miami and what came out of it?  Hasnt done a thing in Jax.  Not sure what it does for you, think its much more important to just hire the right GM.  I get the thinking, get a football guy in here to help run things but seems redundant to me

    Yes but most of the other owners (at least the good ones) have competent GM's who run the football ops dept.  Not a GM and HC who report to the owner which seems crazy, how would Woody or Chris know enough about football to decide on a disagreement between Bowles and Macc?  Enough of these first time guys learning on the job it's time to get an experienced football guy in here either at GM or above the GM.  

  6. 12 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

    I dont want a GM who doesnt want to be a GM, doesnt want to work and is only doing it for the money.  

    It's a fair concern but that's why I think maybe more of that "football czar" role would be intriguing.  Gets him out of the day to day of being a GM and is positioned as a promotion.  I'm not saying he would def. take it, I obviously know nothing about the guy but I think it would be worth exploring.  The Johnsons are not knowledgeable football guys and should not be running the football ops dept.  It also puts them in a position to have to fire Macc, let Newsome or McKenzie decide.  Not to mention, it probably gives us a lot more credibility in finding a new coach if they know the "football czar" has signed off on it.

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  7. 2 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

    He’s definitely retiring.

    money speaks, give him enough money and he'll come work for us.  If he doesn't want to be a GM, give him a Tom Coughlin type roll and let him pick the GM.

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  8. I'd rather throw a blank check at Ozzie Newsome.  I don't believe he's retiring I think the Ravens are forcing him out b/c they know they can't hold on to DeCosta much longer.  McKenzie wouldn't be a bad second choice though.  Bring in an experienced GM and HC duo, no more time to learn on the job.

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  9. 59 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

    How bigs the contract?  We paid Fits 12 mil, McCown 12 mil???   Pay Bortles as a backup, get a 2nd and a 6th?

    Hmmm.....  I dont like it at first but I see the logic, I suppose.


    Can't we just sign HACK as a backup?  Joking.  



    Its around $20mm for 2019 but he can be cut in 2020 for something like an $6mm hit I believe.

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  10. 1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

    Many people will blast this concept just because of the QB.  I do not think mac will consider it because he needs to improve the team with his spending.  But, I think it would be worth looking into for the following reasons.

    We are going to have a ton of money but will have a tough time spending it all as the Jets are not a desirable location.  Any really good FA's will have a dozen teams after them.  Mac will feel pressure to actually spend the money so he will either overpay for medium fas from other teams or just as bad grossly overpay some of our own fa's.

    I would rather spend cap money on getting more draft picks as you suggest than overpay robbie anderson, leo, or enunwa.  Or some other teams jags.

    Exactly my point, everyone seems to be getting too caught up in the name but we're not trading for him to be our savior and starting QB we'd essentially be trading $20m in cap space for picks and a backup QB.  And given the fact we have $100mm in cap space this doesn't and shouldn't effect any of our free agent spending

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  11. 10 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

    Harbaugh, bring him in let him be the coach and gm

    Harbaugh and Ozzie Newsome combo.  I just posted this in another thread, I know he's supposedly "retiring" but I think a big part of that is promoting DeCosta before they lose him.  Throw enough money at him and if he doesn't want to be GM make him VP of Football  Ops and he hires the GM

  12. This may be out of left field but I wonder if there's any chance of nabbing Ozzie Newsome.  I know he's "retiring" but a part of me thinks he's being kind of forced by the Ravens who know if they don't promote DeCosta soon they'll probably lose him.   He's the type of guy that hasn't been mentioned but can really but that under the radar "football czar" we need.  Let him hire the GM and coach, get things moving in the right direction for a few years and then if he wants ride off into the sunset.   I'm sure we'd have to pay him a ton of money but a drastic move is needed to turn this thing around 

  13. I would be very interested in a guy like this who has been around the league for a while and has been working under a successful, well respected HC in Andy Reid.  I'm not saying we should def. hire him but on the surface he seems like a better choice then say the next hot OC flavor of the month sure it worked for the Rams but no guarantees it will happen again.  If you are hiring a ST coach though, one of the most important aspects is who will be his OC and even DC.  You wonder about his connections around the league and who he would have lined up in those roles.  Especially at OC with Darnold being the most important commodity.

  14. 27 minutes ago, nico002 said:

    Numbers lie 

    if Herndon stretches another inch and Peake doesn’t let a ball bounce off his chest for a pick he has 11 TDs / 9 picks...

    Hopefully Sam gets some better breaks in the second half of the year and the coaches can put him in easier positions. Most of his TDs are from like 20+ yards off 

    While what you've said is true it's also worked the other way too.  Darnold has had more then a few sure INT's get dropped by DB's.  With that being siad though I'd say Danold's lived up to expectations of potential franchise QB .  The CS on the otherhand (Bates/Bowles specifically) has left a lot to be desired.  Bates has been underwhelming and while it's only been 7 games does make me wonder if we were better off keeping Morton.  

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  15. 11 minutes ago, BCJet said:

    Um you do realize that Decker, Marhsall and Forte all couldnt play and had no value in the league and Snacks has a ton of value?

    Personally I think a 5th round pick is low.  Snacks has 2 years on his contract $6.75 in 2019 and $9 million in 2020 and the 2020 number only has $1.6 of dead money.  The guy is 29 and PFF has him as the #4 run defender.  This was a steal for the Lions and if I was a HC that needed defensive help Id be unhappy with my GM for not pushing the envelope here.

    Vernon has a $19 million cap number each of the next 2 years but in 2020 there is only $4 million of dead money.  The bigger issue with him is production as he had 5.5 sacks last season and isnt necessarily an elite player at this point.

    I'm not saying we would've gotten first rd. picks back for them but even getting 5th-6th rd picks to move them to a contending team you would think would've been a possibility,  I think it came down to the fact that we just didn't want to admit who we were.

  16. With all the cap space we have and what free agency is shaping up to be I'm honestly off the belief we should be doing the opposite.  We should leverage the cap space we have and start to trade picks for good young established players who are on bad teams.  Let's start talking to Cardinals, Raiders, even Giants and see if we can take a big contract off their hands for a mid rd. pick.  I know it's not a popular opinion but we'll have to spend that $100mm somehow.  I'm not saying go take 33 year old has-beens who were good 5 years ago but I'd be very open to being aggressive and getting a guy like Chandler Jones in here.   

  17. Already brought up in this thread but the Giants are doing what the Jets should've done two years ago.  The fact that we let Decker, Marshall, Forte, etc...walk and got nothing back was criminal.  The whole idea of trying to salvage the 2015 season and basically bring that whole team back was just a huge mistake.  With that being said, the Giants are now trying to clean up the fact that they made a huge mistake not drafting a QB and ultimately we'll see how this pans out for them.  Too bad the Giants would never trade with us, I'd love to poach a couple of guys off that roster like Sterling Sheppard.

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  18. 2 hours ago, Freemanm said:

    Bowles should go way before Macc. When the time comes to state their cases - 

    Macc's argument: Bowles was supposed to be a defensive guy who coveted DBs more than any other position. In the past two years, I signed arguably the best CB in the open market (Trumaine Johnson), got Morris Claiborne for a steal, drafted the 2017 draft's top safety in Jamal Adams, and arguably the top defensive lineman in 2015 in Leonard Williams. Overall, there are three first round picks on that defense, as well as a second rounder in Marcus Maye. Yet, Blake Bortles and the Jaguars racked up a billion yards of total offense against us this past Sunday? A rookie QB in the TNF game sliced and diced our secondary like butter in the game before that? What more can I do for this guy (Bowles)? Even with a really good secondary, we still feel the need to play cover 2/3 against mediocre offenses?

    Yes, I've made some mistakes and we still have holes, but this is only year two of the rebuild. I got the franchise QB. I've made mistakes, but I've also made some very good moves/signings/trades. Trading Sheldon Richardson for both Kearse and a second rounder was my best. I signed Claiborne for virtually pennies on the dollar, got the top CB in the open market. What more can I do for this guy?

    Bowles' argument: The busted coverages, lazy schemes and dumb penalties are not my fault. I need better players. 




    I think if you keep Macc and get rid of Bowles you are very much limiting your coaching options.  No one is going to want to take the job with a "lame duck" GM in place knowing they're likely only going to get one year.  I think the best approach might be to bring a football czar like a Tom Coughlin type and let him oversee the GM and coaching decisions.  I'm not sure who that guy is but the Jets are in desperate need of a football guy to run the football side.  Let Chris and/or Woody stick to the business side.  I've always thought if there was a disagreement between Bowles and Macc how could Woody or Chris ever be the deciding vote?  They just don't have the football knowledge and the best thing they can do for this franchise is admit to this. I know there's plenty of cases of this not working out but it seems to be working for JAX

  19. Yes we probably would be but the real story is their GM Dave Caldwell.  That team is loaded with talent, I remember before hiring Idzik we reached out to Caldwell about our GM job but he turned is down even for an interview which I'm assuming was due to the fact he was going to saddled with Rex.  I know Coughlin is going to get a ton of credit from the FO standpoint but JAX has been building the talent around that team for a while.  Not taking anything away from Marrone who seems to have done a nice job but the real story with JAX is the talent on that roster.

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  20. Andy Reid's special teams coach Dave Toub has been a name mentioned around coaching circles for a while now I know he's gotten a few interviews but no offers.  He should probably be the first name on the list this offseason if we fire Bowles.  I know everyone wants the next MccVay but the a special teams guy is an intriguing option considering you would expect they wouldn't be too heavy on one side of the ball.  He may even be able to grab a KC offensive asst. to bring in as the OC. 

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  21. 20 minutes ago, varjet said:

    Khan has an organization of Coughlin, Caldwell and Marrone.

    The Jets?

    I remember before hiring Idzik, the rumor was the Jets reached out to Caldwell about the job and he turned us down, probably because Woody refused to let the GM fire Rex.  I know Coughlin and Marrone are going to get a ton of credit but Caldwell has been building up the talent on that team for a while.  If Woody could have only let go of Rex a few years earlier or at least let the GM decide his fate

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