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  1. 54 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

    No you're right, I'm ecstatic we chose Maye over Dalvin Cook and just had a safety we traded McDougle for win player of the week. I'm over the moon about the whole thing.

    Not to change the conversation but we've gotten very good production out of Elijah McGuire so far, I'm never really a proponent for taking RB's early.  Dalvin Cook has looked good but he wouldn't have made that much more of an impact on our offense and Maye while not putting up the flashy numbers that Adams is has been solid in coverage and should only get better. 

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  2. I know it's easy to look at this year in the bubble of a Jets fan view and say it's an overreaction to a tank year.  But let's be honest, with team success becoming more and more dependent on the ability to find a franchise QB, should the league seriously look into some sort of draft lottery system?  I mean this year alone you have the Jets, Bills, 49ers, and Browns basically going into the season rooting to lose.  I know not every draft is going to have this caliber of potential franchise QB's but I do think you may being to see this more and more as teams tear their rosters down with the hope of landing a top pick.  I know it wouldn't solve all the problems as teams would still want to have the best chance to "win" the lottery but it would decrease the emphasis on tanking especially late in the year.

  3. 20 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said:

    He also leadered the heck out of leading. In all seriousness though, this team has been so unlikable in the past that it's nice to feel excited about the future of a few guys esp since Darron Lee sucks and is a bit of a sh*thead. 

    He really is already establishing himself as a leader though which to me, is impressive.  I was at the game Sunday and he was not only all the field making plays but he was getting the crowd pumped up, he was walking up and down the sideline talkiing to players when the offense was on the field.  I don't want to overrate this guy but he has been very impressive so far and with such a young team the exact type of influence needed in that locker room.

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  4. I'm not making excuses for the HC but this article really goes to show you that there were so many moves made through waiver pick ups that the coaching staff was probably going to need some time to figure out the best personal packages and how best to implement all these new guys.  Again, not making excuses but looking at it from Bowles' standpoint, he had a lot new guys that weren't even on the team two weeks ago.  And from Macc's standpoint it's easy to say he got lucky with some of these waiver wire pickups but he said from the very beginning that this was his plan and while it may seem easy, guys like Terrance Brooks are not household names, this is where having a good scouting dept. in place comes into play as Macc is very much going to rely on his scouts when it comes to moves like these.

  5. I apprecaite what Marshall did for us in 2015 but it's nice to see this team finally get rid of a guy past his prime.  In fact, all the vets this team got rid of to supposedly tank have done nothing.  Love Mangold but he's not in the league, neither is Revis, Marshall and Decker have not been huge contributors.  So while this team is still very much rebuilding, none of those vets were going to get us over the hump either

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  6. 11 hours ago, DMan77 said:

    Fast forward 2 years. Darnold is playing for us, but we have no talent anywhere around him:

    *Tank poster #1*:"Mac sucks! He didn't draft anyone in his time here now look at us! We have a QB but no one around him!"

    *Tank poster #2*: "I know right?! Same old Jets! Would have been nice for them to develop a few players in the last few years."


    You do NOT build a team in one year. I don't care who you are. It takes years to build a foundation to win. If you want the Jets to suck for Sam then you damn well better be willing to be Ok with losing for another 2-3 years after they draft him then. Because you're asking for Jets to not develop talent anywhere else this year. You're begging (and putting all your chips) on one draft somehow solving all the problems... That doesn't work. 

    That's just so silly to me. Why would you not want some of these young guy to succeed and be a part of the future? Why would you not want some pieces to be in place? We need guys from these last 1-3 drafts to come on and establish themselves.



    Exactly, a lot of people throwing Andrew Luck's name around in comparison to Darnold but what has he won?  Nothing and the biggest reason is that the Colts have completely failed at building a team around him, without Luck that's one of the worst rosters in the NFL.  So while getting that franchise QB is so important there's still 51 other guys on this team who need to be developed and need to be accounted for when building this roster for long term success

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  7. Yep I was at the game and there were a ton of dolphin fans.  So while I went into the season rooting for the "tank" once I got to the stadium and saw all those obnoxious teal and orange jerseys I was rooting hard for a win.  That's the way I've tried to view this season.  Root for wins but if we lose I'm not going to lose much sleep over it either.

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  8. 1 hour ago, flgreen said:


    Just wondering, who did you hear these stories from?

    I can't find the article but there were a few by Jet beat reporters mentioned that, not stating it as fact just what was reported

    Actually here's the one posted the other day




    ets need Sean Payton and Sam Darnold to become next Bill Belichick and Tom Brady of AFC East 

    Gary Myers
    Thursday, September 21, 2017, 2:18 PM
    Gang Green needs to steal Sean Payton from the Saints and pick up USC QB Sam Darnold in the draft.

    Gang Green needs to steal Sean Payton from the Saints and pick up USC QB Sam Darnold in the draft.

     (JIM MONE/AP)

    Sean Payton and Sam Darnold are the dream daily double for the Jets in 2018 to celebrate the 50-year anniversary of Super Bowl III.

    Can it happen?

    Yes, indeed.

    Payton and Darnold would give the Jets instant credibility and a chance to become the next Brady/Belichick in the AFC East.

    Christopher Johnson deserves a fair chance to turn around Jets

    One faction of Jets Nation — a good doctor friend who (foolishly) spent $100,000 on four PSLs and whose lawyer son is among those who “masochistically cherish” the team — embraced the idea and was willing to concede a lot to make it happen.

    “I’d forget Butt Fumble, forgive Idzik and crawl to New England and kiss Belichick’s rings,” he said.

    The Jets are 0-2, 12.5% of the way to 0-16. As poorly as they played losing in Buffalo and Oakland, it’s still going to be awfully tough to finish off a winless season…but go ahead and find one game they are expected to win. Not even in Cleveland on Oct. 8. Good news: 1-15 or 2-14 might be good (bad) enough to get them the leadoff spot in the draft.

    The No. 1 pick gets them Darnold from USC, the No. 2 pick gets them Josh Rosen from UCLA. One assumption: They each decide to enter the draft with college eligibility remaining.

    Jets QB Christian Hackenberg ‘has a lot of upside,’ says Johnson

    Now what about Payton? The Saints attempted to trade him to the Colts the last two years and presumably would be willing to make a deal with the Jets if Woody/Christopher Johnson aggressively pursue him with the Saints' permission and then are willing to give up, say, a fourth-round pick in 2018 and a No. 1 pick in 2019. The first-round pick in 2018 is off limits.

    The list of coaches I want teaching Darnold stops at two. Michigan’s Jim Harbaugh is one, but he’s not leaving his alma mater where he has constructed his own kingdom in Ann Arbor and will win the national championship within the next two or three years.

    The other is a much more realistic get: Payton and the Saints have been rumored for divorce court for years. Even though he signed a five-year, $45 million contract in March of 2016 that takes him through the 2020 season, that deal came only after the Saints first had discussions with the Colts after the 2015 season. They reopened talks again in January of 2017, 10 months after Payton signed his contract. The talks broke down over compensation.

    Payton’s ego is big enough that the chance to end the half-century Super Bowl absence for the Jets and be a forever New York sports hero would surely be appealing. He has New York arrogance with a dash of charm. He would fit seamlessly into the New York sports landscape.

    Jets owner Christopher Johnson insists his team is 'not tanking'

    Jets coach Todd Bowles is a very nice man and was a very good defensive coordinator in Arizona, but has not found his groove as a head coach. He has no chance to win this year in the Suck For Sam tanking season. He will be coming up on the final year of his contract next year, which means by the end of this season Johnson & Johnson will have to make a decision whether to extend or fire him. It’s rare an NFL head coach goes into a lame duck season. If the Jets win one or two games, how will the Jets sell a Bowles extension to their worn-out fan base?

    Sam Darnold

    Sam Darnold


    Payton is perfect for the Jets even though the Saints have not made the playoffs since 2013, have finished 7-9 in each of the last three years and have started at least 0-2 their last four years. He’s still a top five head coach and the No. 1 offensive mind in the NFL.

    Once defensive coordinator Gregg Williams was run out of New Orleans following the Bountygate scandal that got Payton suspended for the 2012 season, the Saints have not played defense despite loading up in the draft and Payton’s employing Steve Spagnuolo, Rob Ryan and now Dennis Allen to run that side of the ball.

    Even so, here’s why Payton is the right coach for the Jets:

    Jets release struggling receiver and return man Kalif Raymond

    — Think about this: After the two-year Rich Kotite 4-28 disaster in 1995-96, the Jets have hired six straight coaches who got their Master’s in defense: Bill Parcells, Al Groh, Herm Edwards, Eric Mangini, Rex Ryan and Bowles. It’s seven if you count Belichick’s 24 hours. The NFL is a passing league. Payton is a state-of-the-art offensive coach.

    — Ben McAdoo was supposed to be a quarterback guru. Payton is a quarterback guru. He helped turn Drew Brees into one of the most prolific passers in NFL history. Brees has passed for over 5,000 yards a record five times — no other QB has done it more than once — and was the Super Bowl MVP in 2009. Payton is one of the most creative offensive minds of this generation. His teams can score on anybody. Unfortunately, his defenses can’t stop anybody, either. He would inherit two All-Pro caliber players in defensive tackle Leonard Williams and safety Jamal Adams. Maybe Rex can be his defensive coordinator.

    — Payton arrived in New Orleans in 2006, the year after Hurricane Katrina ripped apart The Big Easy. He has a strong emotional attachment to the city and is immortalized there after winning the Saints first Super Bowl in his fourth season. But this is his 12th year with the Saints and he and the team have hit a wall and need a change. Brees is in the final year of his contract and although he’s expected to re-sign, he is 38 years old and may be reaching the end. Payton can start over with Darnold. Maybe he can convince Brees to come to the Jets for a year to mentor him.

    — He is one of the 11 coaches from the Parcells tree to become an NFL head coach. Payton is Parcells’ favorite protégé. Payton consults with him all the time. Parcells helped Payton come up with his practice schedule and speeches to the team in the week before the Super Bowl. When Payton was suspended five years ago, Parcells strongly considered Payton’s request to coach the team for him. Payton is most like Parcells of all the coaches who have worked for him. That is a good thing. He is also tight with Bill Belichick. The Saints and Patriots have practiced against each other in training camp in 2015 and 2016. Payton would be motivated to beat Belichick if he coached the Jets. In his only game vs. Parcells, the Saints beat the Cowboys 42-17 in Dallas in 2006. No mercy.

    Bowles on 2 plays that turned Jets loss to Raiders into a blowout

    — Payton knows New York and will not be intimidated. He worked for Jim Fassel with the Giants from 1999-2002, so he knows the pressure that comes with the euphoria/depression fans of Monday mornings.

    — He is a bit of a Parcells control freak, so what happens to GM Mike Maccagnan? It’s too hard for the head coach to run personnel and Maccagnan has a solid plan to build through the draft. Do they have a connection? The original plan of Jets advisor Charley Casserly in 2015 was to team Maccagnan with Doug Marrone as the coach but Woody Johnson didn’t want Marrone. Maccagnan and Marrone are close friends back from the days together with the London Monarchs of the old World League when Macccagan the personnel director signed Marrone the player in 1991. Marrone was on Payton’s original staff in New Orleans in 2006 and remained until he was named head coach at Syracuse in 2009. With Marrone making the introduction, a strong Payton-Maccagnan working relationship can develop.

    — As popular as Payton has been in New Orleans, there is a petition on Change.org to get him fired. Of course, it only has 31 supporters. Fans are restless with the Saints winning only two playoff games in the seven seasons since the Super Bowl. New Orleans looks like the worst team in the NFC South this year.

    Payton will be 54 in December. Coaches don’t get burned out until they are 60. That would give Jets Nation six years of Payton and Darnold if all the pieces fall into place in January.

  9. 2 minutes ago, MDL_JET said:

    I actually think we're on pretty much the exact same path as the 49ers. Both teams look like they want to build their defense, put the offense in place and establish it with a veteran QB that knows the system well. So once they do go get their QB next year, things will be a smoother transition. Which makes me believe more and more that not many changes will be made to the staff this off season unless Bowles just completely f's up. 

    Rams already had their major pieces in place, they just needed a competent HC. 


    Agreed which is why I was rooting for the 49ers last night, they're obviously one of our biggest threats for a franchise QB (although they could end up with Cousins) so the more games they win the better for us.  The biggest difference though and I'm not saying this is right or wrong is they gave their coach and GM 5 year deals IIR meaning they have been given time to rebuild together.  The Jets on the otherhand are in year 3 of this regime as they begin their rebuild putting in place an internal battle of Bowles and Macc trying to save their jobs while still trying to rebuild

  10. 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

    Salivating? No.

    The question I'm raising is less about McVay specifically, and more about the sham of a "coaching search" conducted by Casserly. Woody hired him as a consultant, and he had the Jets interview the exact same people that everyone else was interviewing. Literally not one single candidate was an "out of nowhere" that could be accredited to the stellar connections and foresight of Casserly. There were no McVay "types" in his search. Instead, the Jets paid a consultant to receive the advice "interview the same people everyone is".

    From the stories I heard it sounded like Casserly's first recommendation was Marorone not Bowles but because Mehta went out and wrote that scathing article about him Woody was too scared to make that move.  Plus Casserly was there not just to recommend coaches but to be involved in the interview process and help hire the right guy.  Whenever these coaching searches happen it's always the same names being mentioned it's just a matter of how the musical chairs shapes out.  

  11. 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said:

    It shouldn't be apples and oranges, that's the point. The Rams found a QB, found a stud RB, acquired Watkins, continue to invest in the DL and OL, and have done so in less time that it's taken Mac/Bowles to make the team worse than when Rex/Idzik were here.

    Rams look good right now but it's a long season and with all they gave up to get Goff they should be a win now team.  I think most here agreed at the time the trade the Rams made for Goff was a major reach and while he looks much better 2 games is not enough to say he's the guy yet.

  12. 22 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

    I'm not basing my rant on what the Rams have done in 3 weeks. I'm basing it on the scaleability of what I've seen. So far, I see McVay having gotten their top pick QB to play good football. I see Wade Phillips, and with him it's just a matter of when, not if, he fixes that defense and has them playing terrific. His track record as a DC speaks for itself. They really don't have more talent on their D than we do either. Not in terms of draft capital and proven ability. 

    I can appreciate where you're coming from though, and to the layman would respect it as a counter point, but the Rams are rebuilding - same as us - and already in a better place after 3 games than we are after 3 years. Imagine McVay and Wade after 3 seasons... that's my point. I guess.

    Rams are way ahead of us in their rebuild considering they have Gurley in his prime and gave up a lot to move up for Goff, it's apples and oranges.

  13. 14 hours ago, Jack Straw said:

    Jamal Adams is going to be a great player for a long time. But when you don't have ANY talent at QB, WR, RB, TE, LT or OLB or CB, drafting safeties with high first rounders is bad business.

    I guess I'm saying I'd have rather invested in someone like Mahomes rather than Adams because the impact a QB can have on a game is 100x greater than that of a SS. Case in point, Adams has played well and we still gave up 45 points to the Raiders. 

    I get what you're saying but the Jets roster was so barren  of talent it was important they got Day 1 impact players.  Drafting Mahomes with the chance he might be good only delays the rebuild.  As desperate as the team is for offensive players the worst thing Macc could've done is reached on a QB if you don't think he's going to be the guy.  Maybe he's learned something from the Hack debacle.

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  14. McVay might turn out to be a great coach but Thursday Night did nothing other than prove he's still a good offensive coach.  His team gave up 39 pts to Brian Hoyer and while that defense was on the field he was busy sitting on a water cooler going through the offense.  Sure, Goff looks like a real QB but it's only been 2 games.  If the Rams would've lost that game he would've gone from this so-called "genius" up and coming HC to being bashed for still not understanding he's the HC not the offensive coordinator.  I mean his D was struggling against Brian Hoyer and while I understand he hired and experienced DC in Wade Philips to run that D he's still the HC and can't be sitting on a water cooler with his head down drawing up offensive plays while his D is getting roasted.  Of course in a Prime Time game the NFL machine isn't going to mention that because he's a young, good looking guy coaching in LA so they want to build him up to be the next great coach.  

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  15. 10 hours ago, Fibonacci said:

    Payton is an intriguing choice but no idea why Saints is going 7-9 year after year with Brees. 

    Exactly, I like the idea of bringing in an experienced offensive mind to possibly go with our new shiny 1st rd QB and not to say I wouldn't be interested in Payton but there is some hesistance considering how bad they've been defensively and the fact that they've been a mediocre team with Drew Brees for a while now.  He would need to be paired with a good defensive coordinator and a good GM or else we'll just be those 7-9 Saints every year.

  16. I'm hoping Chris smartens, realizes what a mess the franchise is and then goes and hires a Jim Dorsey type, makes him President and lets him decide what to do with franchise.  Let Woody and Chris go play with financial statements

  17. 3 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

    So the Tanks on..


    2 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

    This is the equivalent of the cruise ship captain turning over the helm to his brother who has NEVER driven a ship.

    After the passengers bought lifetime seat licenses.

    Nepotism at its finest.  

    This move alone tells you EVERYTHING about Woody. Frankly, im surprised he didnt turn the team over to his wife.

    As a CPA with experience with many fortune 500 companies, I can tell you they go out and recruit the best.

    They dont bring in the brother of the former executive.  The JETS suck and this is absolutely why.




    I tend to agree with this sentiment and I actually did mention it in another thread.  I know nothing about the guy so I am willing to give him a chance but with Woody off to England this really would've been the perfect opportunity to bring in a real football veteran presence to come in and evaluate Macc and Bowles.    I know the Jags aren't a model organization at all but look at what they did bringing in Tom Coughlin and putting him in that EVP/President of Football Ops role that's exactly what the Jets needed to do.  Even if it's only a short term assignment but just someone with football knowledge to really come in and run the show and evaluate this current regime.  They could've sold it as Woody's brother will be running the day to day business side while another hire/consultant was being brought in to run the personal/football side.  

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  18. I'm willing to give this guy a chance but I just feel that with Woody off in England this would've been the perfect opportunity to bring in a "Football czar" type?  Woody could've played it off that with him in England he needs someone to run the day to day and was bringing in an industry vet like a Tom Coughlin type to run the show.  Bringing in his brother just seems like such a Woody thing to do.  

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  19. At the end of the day all these vets the Jets cut to supposedly "tank" have not exactly been missed.  Marshall and Decker have had little to no impact, Mangold and Revis aren't even playing right now and David Harris played one snap on Sunday.  So at the end of the day while its tough to watch this team it was the right thing to do.  We weren't winning much with or without these guys and by keeping them would've just delayed the "rebuild" 

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